Mystery car pix

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Wasn't that the car that killed Princess Grace of Monaco? She died in 1982.
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Right you are!

    Art Deco (1920s – 30s)

    http://www.adsw.org/resource/websites.html

    Streamline Moderne (late 1930s)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streamline_Moderne

    That Buick, however is a 40s vintage ('42 or '46, or '47?). Still it was influenced by that Streamline Moderne movement. WWII had a funny way of delaying design, as the '46 cars were essentially warmed over '42 models.

    Bob
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Hey did ya read about the nautical influences, such as...ahem...."portholes"....1949 Buick? Hah? HAH?

    QUICK! Time to play the "Useless Trivia How Did My Mind Get So Full of This Junk" Game....

    What was the original name given to 1949 Buick portholes in their advertising?
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    What was the original name given to 1949 Buick portholes in their advertising?

    Ventiports?

    Thanks for the clarification on Streamline Moderene, Bob,. BTW the Buick was a '47 Special, here's a 1941 Century in war paint=>

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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Ahhhh..... The 41 Buick!

    That was the car that I bonded with (like a duckling to the mother duck) when I was an infant. This was the first car I remember, as my dad had a black '41 Buick Special 2-door sedanette (AKA fastback). I remember him taking me to Buick dealer ~ 1950 or so, and it's been down hill for me as a car junky ever since. :)

    And yes, "Ventiports" was the term Buick used—which are also on the '41 model pictured.

    Bob
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Seems like an oxymoron, but the '41 – 46 Chevy trucks were products of the Art Deco movement.

    http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/history/chev_segment4.html

    Bob
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    had an old Buick similar to the '41 pictured but I think it was even older. He swapped it for a new Olds when I was ten (1953).

    I'm sure there were plenty of trucks that showed Art Deco/Streamline styling, big GMCs for example, or how about this International?=>

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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Wagon R I believe.

    Of course that's some special edition and given the names they use it's probably called the Step Wagen Fun Life Type R Classic.

    -juice
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Yep that's a version of the best selling car in Japan, the Suzuki Wagon R, I wouldn't know what that particular model is called. Incidentally only two of the ten Japanese best
    sellers are sold in the USA, the Corolla and the Echo (Toyota Vitz in Japan).

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Yeah, but keep in mind they get the Vitz in a 3-door form that looks much better than the dorky sedan/coupe that we get here.

    -juice
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    No, Volvo PV544 or something like that.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Prezactly, it's a 1963 model.

    Here's another from that decade=>
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    The beautiful red truck is a Diamond T. The blue flat-roofed car is a 1960 Oldsmobile.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    The blue flat-roofed car is a 1960 Oldsmobile.

    Correct except one of us is color-blind, it's dark green on my CRT :P .

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  • corsicachevycorsicachevy Member Posts: 316
    It's greenish-blue on my LCD, so you're both wrong. ;)
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,466
    Grand Prix 2+2, fastback. Not sure if it had another name. Late 80s?

    Close kin to the Monte Carlo fastback.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Close kin to the Monte Carlo fastback.

    Frankly I don't recall any MC fastback but under the skin the '86 Pontiac GP Aeroback was the same car as the '86 MC.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,466
    Yup, there was a MC with the bubble back too. I think it was an SS varient.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,074
    Yeah.. Monte's had the "aerodynamic" back window, also...

    I had a neighbor that had one... He was going to keep it forever, because that one was going to be worth so much more.... :surprise:

    Evidently, they did it so they could use it in NASCAR... it actually made a difference at 200 MPH.. go figure..

    Is that Pontiac a US model? I don't remember those... Of course, I was into BMWs and Porsches in the '80s...

    regards,
    kyfdx

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,466
    Yup, a US model. I think they sold about 10 of them. The Monte for some reason was a much bigger seller, and that still sold like crap.

    I think they were expensive, in addition to being ugly. Bad combo.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Yep the old Volvo is a PV544. The similar looking but older 444 has a split windshield and B16 engine rather than the ubiquitious B18, the former of which can be recognized by its crankshaft lying in two pieces.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Well I see a green upper half with a blue lower half, so you're all correct. :D

    Mustang - looks like Bullitt wheels?

    -juice
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Mustang - looks like Bullitt wheels?

    Nope it's a '66 GT-350H, McQueen's Bullitt ride was a 390-equipped '67 model.
    Note that the car in my photo wears racing numbers in addition to the Hertz gold-on-black livery. Legend has it that some renters back in the day raced their daily rentals in SCCA B-production.

    I wanted to rent one myself but you had to be 25 and I was 23 when they phased the GT-3540H out of their fleet (gee I wonder why ;) )

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    It looks like someone did a bad job of assembling a Lotus Seven kit car. :P

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,074
    Kit car is what I thought, also...

    Actually, I think it looks like my Pinewood Derby car from Cub Scouts... ;)

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    I'm not sure you can do a GOOD job with a Lotus Seven kit car actually.

    No, not quite right but you are very close. This was after all a trick question.

    After you guess, I'll show you the same, but IMPROVED car after someone worked it over a bit.
  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,402
    It looks very functional. I kinda like it.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Your links don't work Shifty, they take me to my Yahoo account :confuse: :confuse:

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    sorry....let's try this:

    go here: http://photos.yahoo.com/nigelshiftright

    and then click on "mystery car"

    You should see

    a) the identical car "all cleaned up"

    b) the mystery engine, which you may be able to identify as there aren't too many in the world like it.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,466
    something SAAb based? I also recall the first picture had a SAAB 99 in the background.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,466
    no, that would have been FWD. Never mind.

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  • lancerfixerlancerfixer Member Posts: 1,284
    Screw the mystery car; can I have that blown S2000?
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    or one of the many Seven clones that have been made over the years. The engine is most likely the Saab/DKW three cyl/2 stroke. I can't say I recognize it, it's been 40+ years since Iast saw one. :surprise:

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Isn't that Honda AWESOME? A shop near me built it. It dynoe'd around 300 HP I was told, and that's real HP, as this shop doesn't mess around.

    MYSTERY CAR:

    It's called an Altair, and is basically a knock off of a Lotus SIX, not a Seven. The SIX was the first Lotus kit car.

    The Altair was built in UK in the late 1990s but the operation was apparently aborted due to liability issues that the original Lotus kit cars never had to face. The original engine was a side-valve Ford, and in fact, this "altair" is now in the US registered as a Ford Special.

    The engine is from a Geo Metro and I hear the car scoots along pretty good, being very light.

    I like the way the current owner re-did the car.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • lemmerlemmer Member Posts: 2,689
    I almost guessed "Lotus 6" as a joke. I didn't know there was such a thing.
  • lemmerlemmer Member Posts: 2,689
    Looks like a Trabant to me.

    When I was in Europe, me and two inebriated friends picked up a Trabant and put it sideways in its parking spot. I took a picture of it the next morning. That was one of my proudest moments.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,477
    Yeah, it's a Trabi wagon, probably called a Kombi
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    I was going to take a flyer on this and guess DAF but it's even WEIRDER. I should have know that only the commies would be using tailfins that late in the game.
  • subearusubearu Member Posts: 3,613
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    -Brian
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Mazda T 600 Utility?

    There's a windshield sticker that says Mazda, and it looks like Mazda is also on the front. So I did a Google search of Mazda 3-wheelers and came up with the Mazda T 600 Utility. No pics or links however.

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Nowadays they would market it as a Active Sport Crossover or some such ridiculous name.

    -juice
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Yep it's a Trabbi, the proper name of that particular model is
    Sachsenring P601 Trabant Univeral "Trabant" was the model name but the manufacturer was the old German company Sachsenring.

    When it was introduced in 1962 the Trabbi was actually a pretty advanced vehicle, it was FWD at a time when only a half dozen models had it and the body was made of a cotton-resin(?) based thermoplastic similar to fiberglass. Of course the Trabbi wore out it's welcome staying in production thru 1994 giving it what must have been the longest production run of any Germn car except the Beetle.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    '56 Pontiac. Starchief I believe.

    Bob
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