Mystery car pix

michaellno

RoboCop lives! Can't remember if it was RoboCop I or RoboCop II where the SUX was introduced.

rsholland

at the MD Howard County Fair, at the antique car display. There were less than 500 made.



Bob

andys120

the red/black car behid it looks like an early Ferrari with Vignale bodywork behind it probably a 212 or 212 Inter ca. 1952, prolly even rarer than the Kaiser-D.

Looks like a pretty outstanding show, Bob.

Mr_Shiftright

I like the doors that slide horizontally....very cool although totally nuts for a car. Unfortunately grille but clean sight lines. You can get decent money for one of these.

fintail

Those Ferraris in the background look very interesting

rsholland

Actually that image is not from the show; but yeah they had some pretty neat stuff there. Had a very nice discussion with the owner of a beautiful '30 Model A Victoria; also a beautufully restored '32 Datsun fire truck, which was smaller than a new Mini Cooper! There was even a street rod version of my dad's old '41 Buick Special 2-door sedanette! Being a county fair there was the usual historic John Deeres, etc. Good fun on a hot Sunday afternoon.

Bob

ateixeira

I think that's a Pontiac T1000, Chevette clone.

-juice

kyfdx

Mazda 5

rsholland

'59 Ford.

Bob

andys120

was a 1955 Siata 208S powered by a 2liter Fiat 8V (V8 in Italian). IIRC Vignale was the coachbuilder.

Who's got this one?=>

lemko

...a 1971 Ford Torino GT.

andys120

Exactly right Lemko.

andys120

fintail

AMC Eagle

I actually saw one of those on my way to work today

subearu

c'mon Andy, that was too easy. :P

a lot of AMC's were built in the city I reside in. It's now just an engine plant for Chrysler.

reverse mystery picture: what other vehicle makes were made where I live?

-Brian

toomanyfumes

Those fine AMC/Renault Alliance/ Encore's were made there. My dad had one.It lasted about a year. He had a heck of a time finding a dealer to take it in trade, too.

andys120

If you're a resident of Kenosha, it'd be real easy, I guess. The other make from Kenosha, Jeep? (I know most of 'em are made in Toledo now.

andys120

I forgot about the AMC/Rernaults. I saw a couple of those Premiere / Medallion
four dooors this week end they were running (!)...at highway speeds :surprise:

andys120

kyfdx

Looks like a James Bond car.. No clue, though.. I watched Dr.No on AMC last night.. Some interesting cars... Set in Jamaica..

rsholland

Ferrari 250 GT circa 1960.

Bob

andys120

Yep, it's a '57 250GT Cabriolet, a predecessor to the awesome Spider California.

Another from across the pond...

kyfdx

Silver Cloud?

fintail

Silver Shadow, an earlier chrome bumpered model, late 60s most likely

subearu

Yep, the 4.0 I-6 was still made here up until a couple of years ago. Now only the V6's for Chrysler are made here.

Reverse Myster pix: Dig deeper back though, post a pic of the automaker before AMC in Kenosha.

-Brian

andys120

Yep. it's a '67 Silver Shadow, one of my least favorite Rollers because it had none of the elegance of the Silver Clouds.

andys120

fintail

Harrington LeMans, a hunchbacked Sunbeam Alpine

I remember that one because it was featured in the first British classic car magazine I ever bought, when I was 11 or so. I read that issue so many times.

A Silver Shadow is the proverbial beater Rolls. They are worth little even mint, and make a MB 6.3 look like a joy to maintain.

Mr_Shiftright

Brake job is $8,000.

fintail

Which is coincidentally what a semi-decent example can be had for

If I was going to throw money at an old luxobarge black hole, I'd rather it be an Adenauer or even a Silver Cloud

andys120

ateixeira

Speaking as an outsider that knows nothing about the cars from that era, I gotta say, BOY do cars seem to mimic others from the same time frame.

I mean, that could be anything! First I thought Volvo, then Buick, then Ford...I have no idea! You could tell me it's just about any make and I'd believe you.

I can't even tell you what CONTINENT that is from. :confuse:

-juice

rsholland

It's an 40's-era Buick, not unlike the first car I ever remember, which was my dad's '41 Buick Special 2-door sedanette (fastback). This is a newer version, I would say perhaps a '47, and it is also a (4-door) sedanette.

Bob

ateixeira

So I wasn't that far off.

But am I wrong in saying that cars from the era tend to be cookie-cutter, i.e. same basic form? Differences in the details?

-juice

rsholland

Well, I would agree that '40-era GM cars look a lot alike, as do Ford Corp cars, as do Chrysler Corp cars. It's somewhat harder to tell a DeSoto from a Dodge or Plymouth, but it's not hard to tell a DeSoto from a Chevy or Ford.

Bob

andys120

cars from any era tend to look alike, especially if you aren't familiar wqi the nuances. It was true in the Brass era, in the 20s and 30s and it's certainly true now.

It shouldn't be hard to figure the vintage and maker of this one=>

ateixeira

Probably early 70s or so?

I think you're right about me not being familiar with the nuances of styling during that period, so they all seem alike to me.

Come to think of it the Accord/Camry/Sonata/Altima don't look very distinguished nowadays either. I just find it funny how much an era's styling converges.

-juice

stickguy

about a '72 or '73 164. basically the 144 with a stretched nose to accomodate the straight 6 (2.8l IIRC).

Supposedly handled like pigs, at least relative to the 1969 144s that my family had when I learned to drive.

fintail

When I was little I would see a 164 from the front and think it was a Jag...only to be let down as i saw more of it

andys120

164 it is, it does look vaguely like a Jag in front.

This one doesn't=>

fintail

64 Galaxie

andys120

64 Galaxie

Yep, Galaxie 500XL, that one's a 390 Tripower. Kinda junky looking compared to the clean looking '63.

From the same era but considearly more obscure=>

fintail

I was wondering if it was an XL. My first car was a 66 Galaxie 2 door HT, 390, sucked gas like it was going out of style - but it would spin the tires nicely.

The blue rodent is a Vespa, like from the scooter company

Mr_Shiftright

One reason you might get the impression of "sameness" in 1940s era cars is that World War II seriously disrupted car design, and most 1946-1948 cars are merely very slight re-styles of 1941-42 cars---often with the same body stamping and a few changed trim pieces. Not until 1949 did American cars finally get enough steel and tooling together to come out with cars that differed from the 1941 designs.

andys120

I saw a new Vespa scooter the other day. it's better looking and probably faster than the 400 :P

Here's something w some speed=>

ateixeira

Thanks shifty, that does explain a lot.

-juice

lemmer

M1

stickguy

to be precise.

andys120

BMW M1 it is.

andys120