I little light bulb went off in my head. :surprise: I wonder if Jaserb's mysterious Italian is one of those Chrysler styling studies. Gunsight style grilles were sometimes used in 60s Chryslers, (not Dodges :confuse: ) notably 300Fs and Gs. Perhaps the idea came from this very car (notwithstanding that it preceded the 300F by at least a decade.).
Toyota Corolla Verso, all those Asian MPVs look alike.
The flat-front p'up is indeed a ('68) Dodge A100, one of a wave of flat-front pickups and vans inspired by the VW Microbs and Transporter during the mid -60s. Yeah I know Willys preceeded them all (mid 50s).
Excuse me for saying so, but I'd rather look at and talk about cars that have been, or will be, available to the mainstream American (or at least European) market, rather than obscure 2nd world vehicles that I will never see in the flesh.
Yep, it's a '50 Rambler. As for your mystery MPV, congratulations, we're stumped, 'yota must sell 30 different MPVs somewhere in Asia and more in Europe (they're like SUVs here).
The mystery van is the all new Toyota Innova sold all over Southeast Asia and recently in India.
It's a FWD van, with a 2.0 liter engine putting out 136hp and 182lb. ft of torque. It costs about $25,000, similar to a basic minivan today. It's about the size of a Mazda5.
You guys could have visited Toyota's website in any Southeast Asian country to discover this vehicle.
Wow, this is the third of three posts that I've made which no one was able to guess.
Little known factoid --- in fact, no automotive historian has ever been able to trace conclusively the origin of the word "spider" and why open cars are called such. My theory is that it is a carriage term for the stand in the rear where the footman road--thus the spider seat is like how the spider carries it's young, on its back, and then of course, "out in the open" logically follows. The French pronounce it SPEE-DAY.
That's correct, it's an 850 Coupe ca. '67-'69, it was eventually replaced by the 128, a n early fwd coupe.
I've heard the term Spider derives from a light, open style of horse carriage and it's generally spelled S-p-i-d-e-r unless it's a Maserati in which case it's spelled with a Y :confuse:
By 1989, Dodge capitalized on the growing popularity of the specialty pickup market with the introduction of the Dakota Sport convertible.
This was the first postwar production ragtop pickup, and Dodge billed it as "the ultimate fun truck." {It is still the only postwar production ragtop pickup.}
The Dakota Sport convertible featured a manual vinyl top that could be folded back and covered with a boot, or completely removed. The unique hauler was based on a two-door pickup with a metal roof on its cab, and was assembled at Chrysler's Dodge City truck complex in Warren, Michigan. From there, the trucks were shipped to American Sunroof Co. (ASC) several suburbs away.
ASC sliced the roof off and added the necessary components to turn it into a convertible for open-air excitement.
These Dakota Sport convertibles were sold as either as 4x2s or shift-on-the-fly 4x4s with a base price of $14,425. All {only in 1989} trucks came fitted with a 125-hp, fuel-injected V-6 mated with a five-speed manual or optional three-speed automatic transmission.
Standard equipment included an integral padded sport roll bar; 15-in., cast-aluminum wheels; a tachometer; an AM/FM stereo cassette radio; deluxe wipers; power steering, power windows, and door locks; dual remote outside mirrors; and fog lights.
Exterior paint choices were red, black, or white with the grill, bumpers, headlight bezels, wheel lip moldings, door and tailgate handles painted black.
Decorative details on the convertible included an acrylic ram's head hood medallion plus added tape graphics on the body sides and tailgate. Dodge impressed 2,842 Dakota Sport convertible buyers in 1989.
While the Dakota Sport convertible continued for 1990 with the 3.9-liter V-6, it was joined by a second variation, the Dakota SE convertible truck. The SE came powered by a standard 2.5-liter engine and smooth-shifting, five-speed manual overdrive transmission.
Colors for 1990 were Colorado Red, Bright White, and Daytona Blue, or black. A mere 1,039 {writer's mistake, there were 909} units were sold.
Legend has it that another eight Dakota Sport convertibles were built in 1991 by ASC to complete the remainder or its contract with Dodge.
Holden Caprice, sold in some markets as a Chevrolet, and as the Buick Royaume in China. Taillights don't quite match the current model, so this one is probably from 2001 or 2002 or something.
Juice - thanks for keeping quiet, I appreciate it.
andys120, sorry for the small picture but it's the best that I could do.
Bumpy - damn your pretty close! No sorry it's tnot he Holden Statesman/Buick Royaume/Chevrolet Caprice. But this car does look similar to those. The taillights don't match because the car is different.
That's the Holden that you're talking about from 2000-2002.
It's a Ford Fairlane Ghia, basically the LWB version of the Australian Ford Falcon. Ford fans should hope that the next RWD platform is LHD-capable; otherwise there's no hope of seeing it here.
Nobody wants to take a whack at the ugly white van in #2117?
Good job bumpy, yes it is the Ford Fairlane. Those taillights closely resemble those on the Ford Falcon, and it should have given you guys a clue as to which manufacturer it came from. Holden Statesman was a pretty good guess because the the two look very similar from the side profile.
I don't think Ford of N.America needs a car like that when we have the Five Hundred and Crown Victoria. The Five Hundred is supposed to be getting a new engine soon, one with more guts. As for the Crown Victoria, I hear it's getting minor changes here and there. Nothing is really concrete about a facelift or redesign. Instead it'd be nice if Ford could bring the Falcon here, only as part of SVT.
This year Ford released a Ford Fairlane concept, which Ford says will replace the Freestyle around 2009. Of course the production version will be different. We were discussing this in the "What's the point of designing ugly cars?" thread.
I've spent a bunch of time on the Ford Australia website, and think that the Falcon would sell just fine here.
The Five Hundred only comes with a V6 and either FWD or AWD -- yes, there are plans to increase the displacement to 3.5L (no word on HP output), but the Falcon has the 4.6L V8 that is found in the Mustang and RWD. It's smaller than the Crown Vic, too, which might make it more palatable for folks under the age of 65.
And, the Falcon is also available with a manual transmission, too!
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Google Honda Fit/Jazz and see what you get. Does #2093 look anything like that?
Guess you guys need another hint, this vehicle is the "space wagon" or Asian minivan. It has room for eight, and no, it's not from Honda.
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is one of those Chrysler styling studies. Gunsight style grilles were sometimes used in 60s Chryslers, (not Dodges :confuse: ) notably 300Fs and Gs. Perhaps the idea came from this very car (notwithstanding that it preceded the 300F by at least a decade.).
Styling by Ghia?
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
The Dodge vruck is based on the A-100 van.
That's not the JDM Odyssey, that vehicle is bigger.
Stream, I believe. Might be called Edix in some markets, Honda's strange about that.
-juice
Toyota Corolla Verso, all those Asian MPVs look alike.
The flat-front p'up is indeed a ('68) Dodge A100, one of a wave of flat-front pickups and vans inspired by the VW Microbs and Transporter during the mid -60s. Yeah I know Willys preceeded them all (mid 50s).
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
I'll give you all some more clues. This vehicle was recently released in India, and it is on sale already all over Southeast Asia.
But the biggest I'll give is this - it's from Toyota.
But that's just me. :shades:
james
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
What about my Japanese van in #2093? I've given all you guys a lot of clues. To summarize, it sold in Asia, it's an 8 seater, and it's a Toyota.
Give up?
What the [CENSORED] is it already? :sick:
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
The mystery van is the all new Toyota Innova sold all over Southeast Asia and recently in India.
It's a FWD van, with a 2.0 liter engine putting out 136hp and 182lb. ft of torque. It costs about $25,000, similar to a basic minivan today. It's about the size of a Mazda5.
You guys could have visited Toyota's website in any Southeast Asian country to discover this vehicle.
Wow, this is the third of three posts that I've made which no one was able to guess.
Since today is van day:
Your van looks tough. I think the front badge reads GMC, and it looks like it came from the 70s.
I guarantee more of us have seen it than the three you slipped by us.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
james
a n early fwd coupe.
I've heard the term Spider derives from a light, open style of horse carriage and it's generally spelled S-p-i-d-e-r unless it's a Maserati in which case it's spelled with a Y :confuse:
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
Also recall road tests that indicated it was a tad flexible, to say the least.
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By 1989, Dodge capitalized on the growing popularity of the specialty pickup market with the introduction of the Dakota Sport convertible.
This was the first postwar production ragtop pickup, and Dodge billed it as "the ultimate fun truck." {It is still the only postwar production ragtop pickup.}
The Dakota Sport convertible featured a manual vinyl top that could be folded back and covered with a boot, or completely removed. The unique hauler was based on a two-door pickup with a metal roof on its cab, and was assembled at Chrysler's Dodge City truck complex in Warren, Michigan. From there, the trucks were shipped to American Sunroof Co. (ASC) several suburbs away.
ASC sliced the roof off and added the necessary components to turn it into a convertible for open-air excitement.
These Dakota Sport convertibles were sold as either as 4x2s or shift-on-the-fly 4x4s with a base price of $14,425. All {only in 1989} trucks came fitted with a 125-hp, fuel-injected V-6 mated with a five-speed manual or optional three-speed automatic transmission.
Standard equipment included an integral padded sport roll bar; 15-in., cast-aluminum wheels; a tachometer; an AM/FM stereo cassette radio; deluxe wipers; power steering, power windows, and door locks; dual remote outside mirrors; and fog lights.
Exterior paint choices were red, black, or white with the grill, bumpers, headlight bezels, wheel lip moldings, door and tailgate handles painted black.
Decorative details on the convertible included an acrylic ram's head hood medallion plus added tape graphics on the body sides and tailgate. Dodge impressed 2,842 Dakota Sport convertible buyers in 1989.
While the Dakota Sport convertible continued for 1990 with the 3.9-liter V-6, it was joined by a second variation, the Dakota SE convertible truck. The SE came powered by a standard 2.5-liter engine and smooth-shifting, five-speed manual overdrive transmission.
Colors for 1990 were Colorado Red, Bright White, and Daytona Blue, or black. A mere 1,039 {writer's mistake, there were 909} units were sold.
Legend has it that another eight Dakota Sport convertibles were built in 1991 by ASC to complete the remainder or its contract with Dodge.
-Brian
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125hp out of 3.9 liters? No wonder that thing didn't sell...
-juice
Sorry about the small picture.
-juice
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
andys120, sorry for the small picture but it's the best that I could do.
Bumpy - damn your pretty close! No sorry it's tnot he Holden Statesman/Buick Royaume/Chevrolet Caprice. But this car does look similar to those. The taillights don't match because the car is different.
That's the Holden that you're talking about from 2000-2002.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
-juice
Looking over some of these "mystery cars" I can well see why they became mysteries :P
Did we lose the emotorcons, again?
Can anyone else see them?
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I was bragging just yesterday, about how I never have those problems....
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Any guesses?
Nobody wants to take a whack at the ugly white van in #2117?
I don't think Ford of N.America needs a car like that when we have the Five Hundred and Crown Victoria. The Five Hundred is supposed to be getting a new engine soon, one with more guts. As for the Crown Victoria, I hear it's getting minor changes here and there. Nothing is really concrete about a facelift or redesign. Instead it'd be nice if Ford could bring the Falcon here, only as part of SVT.
This year Ford released a Ford Fairlane concept, which Ford says will replace the Freestyle around 2009. Of course the production version will be different. We were discussing this in the "What's the point of designing ugly cars?" thread.
The Five Hundred only comes with a V6 and either FWD or AWD -- yes, there are plans to increase the displacement to 3.5L (no word on HP output), but the Falcon has the 4.6L V8 that is found in the Mustang and RWD. It's smaller than the Crown Vic, too, which might make it more palatable for folks under the age of 65.
And, the Falcon is also available with a manual transmission, too!
Sigh - well, we can always hope.