Mystery car pix

andys120

If you want the size, I'd say a V8. A 426?

COuld be a sprint, but I don't think they had nostrils and the hood tach.

You'd be right about the second part but there was no Poncho 426, do you mean 326? Well it wasn't that either.

It was a V8 (big hint).

Mr_Shiftright

Probably a 400 cid Ram Air but we'd need to open the hood to know more.

andys120

Probably a 400 cid Ram Air but we'd need to open the hood to know more.

Your wish is my command=>

wuster

nope, the plumbing under the hood is all wrong for a ram air 400.

Nice hood tach though...

Mr_Shiftright

Could be "just" a regular 400 or a 350...has the chrome valve covers, though.

andys120

Okay one more clue, it's not a Pontiac V8 but it's the motor this Firebird came with. :P

kyfdx

396 Chevy?

kyfdx

302 Z28?

subearu

350 or 400 cubic inch, both engines (in a few different tunes) were offered.

I'll say it was the 350 in the weaker tune - 265hp.

-Brian

nedc2

I know that over the years Oscar Mayer has had several different designs for the Weinermoblile, I used to work in an art supply shop about 20 years ago and the Mobil station across the street was where the rep who drive the Weinermobile that serviced the Detroit and SE Michigan area used to park it when he wasn't using it, the lower part on the model was much boxier looking than the current model. The current version is built on a Chevy W4 chassis and has a 6.0 litre Vortec V8 engine link title A female coworker suggested that it might just be the ultimate babe magnet ride.

wuster

I think Brian is right. You can just barely see the orange paint on the engine block. Pontiac engine blocks are painted a light blue. I believe chevy engine blocks are orange.

andys120

It's 327 small block. This particular F-bird was built for the Canadian market and like all Canadian Pontiacs of the '60s (AFAIK) it came with Chevy running gear.

andys120

subearu

Dowh, I didn't have access to Canadian specs for the 'bird. I knew it had the 350 and 400 for us Yanks though.

-Brian

navigator89

Isn't someone going to take a crack at #2235? It's not a Mitsubishi, nor is it a Chinese copy of one. It was never related to the Montero/Pajero.

doohickie

Don't have a clue. Guessing Euro?

steine13

I'm guessing it's from the Vaterland, and it's a BMW... and that's as far as I'm willing to stick my neck out...
-Mathias

fintail

A BMW 501 with some kind of custom body - likely German. I've never seen that one before, very interesting.

andys120

It's a 501 coupe, so a little different from the four door. No doubt it was limited production and yes likely by Reutter, Drauz, Karmann or some other German coachbuilder.

andys120

ateixeira

Is that the little red wagon?

-juice

navigator89

That truck in the black and white pic is a Ford, I can read the front badge. I'm guessing it's from the 60s. Probably the prehistoric predecessor to the F-150.

And come on, won't someone guess #2235? Or did I stump you guys again??

bumpy

1958 Ford (says so on the hood).

ateixeira

2235 is the [non-permissible content removed] child of a Monty, it has to be. The green house looks identical.

-juice

fintail

The truck is a 58-60 Ford, some kind of period 4WD job. I know Chevy ones were by "NAPCO", I don't know about Ford.

andys120

Yep it is a '59 Ford F-250, not F-150. '59 was the first year for 4x4 at Ford.

Why don't you tell us what the Monty-thing is Navi, we haven't a clue.

navigator89

Ok, the Monty-thing is a Hyundai Galloper, sold all over Asia, and probably S. America, Australia and Africa as well.

It can seat 7, and comes in two door configurations as well. It can also be had with a stick. The base engine is a 2.5L 4 cylinder that only gives 105 hp, and a 3.0L V6 gives 161hp.

No wonder this vehicle isn't sold in N. America, people would find the power inadequate. When I took a ride in one, I noticed the doors to be very thin, which made me wonder how it would do in a crash. It probably doesn't meet the US crash test regulations.

Cool, including the Chevrolet Tavera, that's my second stumper.

ateixeira

I've heard of it before, i think they are sold in Brazil.

But I bet they use Montero panels and door skins, though.

Hyundai used Mitsubishi engines for a long time, in fact up until the Hyundai alpha engine came out they were all powered by Mitsu.

Mitsu also sold a Hyundai Excel clone called the Precis in the USA.

So I'm pretty certain that is indeed a Montero clone, at least to some extent. 161hp sounds like what Mitsus were making about 15 years ago, so that adds up.

-juice

andys120

navigator89

A very nice looking car, it's a 1953 Dodge Wayfarer.

andys120

1953 Dodge Wayfarer.

Prezactly!

navigator89

andys120

Austin Allegro?

navigator89

I googled Austin Allegro and I got some small hatchback, so I don't think that's it.

andys120

You mean you don't know what it is? :P
I'm pretty convinced that it's something related to the Austin/Morris Allegro, Marina or some variant of those frumpy *&^%#-boxes that doomed Britain as a car maker in the 70s.

fintail

I think 2281 is based on something like a Hillman Hunter...but it's not one of those. i think there was some shoddy Israeli car made that looked like that.

andys120

Believe it or not this is a flattering picture=>

fintail

Panhard Dyna, unhappy marriage of early 50s body styling with late 50s detailing.

The best/worst version had a goofy grille opening with a chrome piece in the middle which looked very much like a tongue in a mouth

imidazol97

How large is that car? It looks like it's actually small -- judging by the car next to it.

fintail

Yeah it's not a big car, just an old Euro 2 banger maybe 50hp tops

I think the non-tongue model is called the PL17, the tongue was on the Dyna

boomchek

You're very close fintail. The car is based on a Hillman Hunter and it's sold in Iran as a Paykan Limousine.

At least that's what I was able to decipher from my World Car Buyer's Guide from 1991 called "Auto Katalog". It's written in German but from what I can tell it's got a 1.6L engine and makes 65hp. Just in case anyone is interested in importing one to North America :P

xkss

I'll give you a hint....the race car version beat several Porsche 911s in its class (GT2) in an American Le Mans Series race at Road Atlanta earlier this year.

rsholland

'59 was the first year for 4x4 at Ford.

Yes and no. It may have been the first "factory" 4x4 from Ford, but for many years Fords have used Marmon-Harrington in 4x4 conversions. It could be ordered through Ford dealers.

http://www.autogallery.org.ru/k/f/41for1_1_2ton4x4MarmonHarrington_RC.jpg

http://www.cutsoldtrucks.com/46mh4x4.htm

http://www.olive-drab.com/images/id_marmon_harrington_ford_4wd.jpg

Bob

boomchek

Looks like a Panoz Esperante with a hard top.

navigator89

">Boomchek is right, #2281 is a Paykan Saloon, sold in Iran. It used to be British car, but they Iranians started manfacturing it in Iran itself. Production was recently discontinued.

Yep, #2292 is a Panoz Esperante.

So here's the new mystery

<img src="http://www.3sxperformance.com/cars-3sx/john-conquest-tsi-001-framed-500.jpg

xkss

You are right. It is the Esperante GTLM model (420 hp).

subearu

Haven't we seen pics of the Chrysler Conquest TSi in here before? :P

-Brian

navigator89

I really wouldn't know if you've seen a pic of this car before, but you're right it's a 1989 Chrysler Conquest.

Here's another one.

doohickie

Looks like a Mitsu-built copy of a Suzuki SUV.

ateixeira

Mitsu has different wheelbase lengths on their trucks, I'll guess that's a SWB Pajero.

Starion or Dodge Conquest, I think the latter due to the TSi badge.

-juice