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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Hard as it is to believe, if that were a vintage Bugatti in that condition, it would be restored...well, it would be recreated around a VIN plate, or someone with a Bugatti frame would call up someone with a Bugatti engine who would buy Bugatti instruments from another guy in Europe, blah blah. Then an expert panel beater would remake the body off specs from an actual car.

    When does a car like that cease to be real and become a replica? Still a raging argument in the collector car world. Provenance is everything.

    I wonder if this old Pontiac will still be around in another 50 years? 100?
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,672

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,791
    Corvair Greenbriar?

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Trivia: What famous comedian was killed in a Corvair wagon?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,791
    Mr_Shiftright said:

    Trivia: What famous comedian was killed in a Corvair wagon?

    Ernie Kovacs.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,518
    I thought Corvair wagons were Lakewoods?

    (I'm going for broke here, since I got the Brazilian Willys thing right. B) )

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,672
    Yup, that's a 1961 Chevrolet Corvair Lakewood and yes Ernie Kovacs (a true comic genius) was killed when his crashed.

    The Greenbriar was a small van that used the Corvair drivetrain.

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  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,605
    If I may add a small detail (OK I will anyway), it is a 1961 Corvair 700 Lakewood. You could also get a 500, which was the base trim. Those puppies were seriously plain.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,672

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,517
    Looks like a Subaru Justy, pretty unusual sitting on German plates from Berchtesgaden.
    andys120 said:


  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,672
    Yup that's a Justy.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Ah, one of my favorite cars.
  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,403
    Honda 2000
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,529
    S2000 to be exact.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Yes but is it an AP1 or AP2?
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,672

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,529
    That an original early 60s stude avanti? I can't tell the later IIs or cobbled together imitations.

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  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    edited June 2016
    '63 or '64.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,517
    Round lights make the car.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,672
    It's a 1964 Studebaker Avanti. '64 being the second and last year they were made by Studebaker.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,672

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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    GAZ Volga King Ranch Edition?
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,672
    Da, is 1958 GAZ Volga. is copy of 1954 Studebaker in 3/4 scale. ;)

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    So THAT'S where the Studebaker Brothers went that summer!
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,517
    IIRC these were actually somewhat reverse-engineered 53-54 Fords.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    edited July 2016
    I dunno....what do you think?





  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,517
    Maybe they designed the C-pillar differently to not look like a copy. I know I read a story some time ago about how actual ~53 Fords were bought from Norway or Finland (as US cars were exported everywhere then) and studied for the GAZ 21.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Seems to have elements of both cars, doesn't it?
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,672

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    edited July 2016
    I think this is a Toyota Mark II - this version was the MkII 2000 Grande G. Circa 1988-90.

    They may have sold it under other names in other markets but we didn't get this exact version as far as I can recall..
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,672
    This car was sold in the USA as a 1990 Toyota Cressida, the JDM version shown was callled the Cressida MK.II.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,672

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  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,403
    Mercury's version of the 54 Ford Starliner. It's a Meteor something. I think it may be Canadian, but not sure.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,517
    Yup it's a Canuck car, 54 Meteor Rideau Skyliner, known as a Ford Crestline Skyliner in the US. The Mercury version would have been a Monterey Sun Valley. I had a slight fixation on the glass top cars when I was a kid. I have to imagine a Canadian Skyliner is quite rare.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,691
    fintail said:

    Yup it's a Canuck car, 54 Meteor Rideau Skyliner, known as a Ford Crestline Skyliner in the US. The Mercury version would have been a Monterey Sun Valley. I had a slight fixation on the glass top cars when I was a kid. I have to imagine a Canadian Skyliner is quite rare.

    I would have to find my photos to check my memory, but I believe there were a couple of those at the CVA (Crown Victoria Association) annual gathering last summer in Dayton. Many of the cars there were Canadian which surprised me. Then I found the parking area where the closed trailers were parked that they used to haul them in rather than driving them.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,691
    edited July 2016
    imidazol97 said:

    I would have to find my photos

    I haven't found mine, but I found those by a local chap who lists upcoming shows and cruise-ins
    and posts pictures he took at many of those shows. He is thorough and gets at least one shot of
    each vehicle. He has 1 Rideau and one Mercury Montclair.

    His full group of 3 pages of shots are here: http://www.countrycruiser.com/2015/fords/index3.htm





    Now this was totally unexpected. I didn't realize they existed.







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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,672
    edited July 2016
    I didn't know a glasstop Ranchero existed either and according to Wikipedia there were no Rancheros before '57. The pictured car is likely a custom conversion from a '56 Ford wagon--and I must add a very cool one!

    :)

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,691
    edited July 2016
    andys120 said:

    I didn't know a glasstop Ranchero existed either and according to Wikipedia there were no Rancheros before '57. The pictured car is likely a custom conversion from a '56 Ford wagon--and I must add a very cool one!

    :)

    Two CVA's. Does the sidestrip on the yellow one indicate 1955 while the chrome on the orange one '56?
    Also there is a difference in the type style for the word "Ranchero."


    My own picture from that day at CVA national.


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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,517
    I see those CV pickups have different rear windows, which to me points to them being one-off customs, Kind of cool though.

    When I was a kid in the late 80s, I remember a 55-56 CV glasstop would park at a Catholic school near my house, and I would ride my bike over to check it out. I think it was grey and white. I didn't realize it was so rare.
  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,403
    Those tail lights on the red and white are NOT from a 56 Ford. Maybe a Merc or Lincoln, but definitely not a Ford.
  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    edited July 2016
    tmart said:

    Those tail lights on the red and white are NOT from a 56 Ford. Maybe a Merc or Lincoln, but definitely not a Ford.

    1956 Mercury wagon.

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,529
    just watched the latest fantom works, and they worked on a 52 Merc woody wagon. Was quite the unattractive beast the way it was done. No accounting for taste I guess!

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,672

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,529
    1970 dodge coronet super bee?

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,672
    1970 dodge coronet super bee?
    R/T

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  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,605
    edited July 2016
    andys120 said:


    Bugatti Chiron. What is the hp up to now, about 1200 for the base model?

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,672

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,529
    Coupe isn't bad looking. Almost got bentlyish lines.

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