Mystery car pix

Mr_Shiftright

Hard as it is to believe, if that were a vintage Bugatti in that condition, it would be restored...well, it would be recreated around a VIN plate, or someone with a Bugatti frame would call up someone with a Bugatti engine who would buy Bugatti instruments from another guy in Europe, blah blah. Then an expert panel beater would remake the body off specs from an actual car.

When does a car like that cease to be real and become a replica? Still a raging argument in the collector car world. Provenance is everything.

I wonder if this old Pontiac will still be around in another 50 years? 100?

andys120

Michaell

Corvair Greenbriar?

Mr_Shiftright

Trivia: What famous comedian was killed in a Corvair wagon?

Michaell

Mr_Shiftright said:

Trivia: What famous comedian was killed in a Corvair wagon?

Ernie Kovacs.

kyfdx

I thought Corvair wagons were Lakewoods?

(I'm going for broke here, since I got the Brazilian Willys thing right. )

andys120

Yup, that's a 1961 Chevrolet Corvair Lakewood and yes Ernie Kovacs (a true comic genius) was killed when his crashed.

The Greenbriar was a small van that used the Corvair drivetrain.

bhill2

If I may add a small detail (OK I will anyway), it is a 1961 Corvair 700 Lakewood. You could also get a 500, which was the base trim. Those puppies were seriously plain.

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fintail

Looks like a Subaru Justy, pretty unusual sitting on German plates from Berchtesgaden.

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andys120

Yup that's a Justy.

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Mr_Shiftright

Ah, one of my favorite cars.

tmart

Honda 2000

stickguy

S2000 to be exact.

Mr_Shiftright

Yes but is it an AP1 or AP2?

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stickguy

That an original early 60s stude avanti? I can't tell the later IIs or cobbled together imitations.

lostwrench1

'63 or '64.

fintail

Round lights make the car.

andys120

It's a 1964 Studebaker Avanti. '64 being the second and last year they were made by Studebaker.

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stever

GAZ Volga King Ranch Edition?

andys120

Da, is 1958 GAZ Volga. is copy of 1954 Studebaker in 3/4 scale.

Mr_Shiftright

So THAT'S where the Studebaker Brothers went that summer!

fintail

IIRC these were actually somewhat reverse-engineered 53-54 Fords.

Mr_Shiftright

I dunno....what do you think?

fintail

Maybe they designed the C-pillar differently to not look like a copy. I know I read a story some time ago about how actual ~53 Fords were bought from Norway or Finland (as US cars were exported everywhere then) and studied for the GAZ 21.

Mr_Shiftright

Seems to have elements of both cars, doesn't it?

andys120

magnette

I think this is a Toyota Mark II - this version was the MkII 2000 Grande G. Circa 1988-90.

They may have sold it under other names in other markets but we didn't get this exact version as far as I can recall..

andys120

This car was sold in the USA as a 1990 Toyota Cressida, the JDM version shown was callled the Cressida MK.II.

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tmart

Mercury's version of the 54 Ford Starliner. It's a Meteor something. I think it may be Canadian, but not sure.

fintail

Yup it's a Canuck car, 54 Meteor Rideau Skyliner, known as a Ford Crestline Skyliner in the US. The Mercury version would have been a Monterey Sun Valley. I had a slight fixation on the glass top cars when I was a kid. I have to imagine a Canadian Skyliner is quite rare.

imidazol97

fintail said:

Yup it's a Canuck car, 54 Meteor Rideau Skyliner, known as a Ford Crestline Skyliner in the US. The Mercury version would have been a Monterey Sun Valley. I had a slight fixation on the glass top cars when I was a kid. I have to imagine a Canadian Skyliner is quite rare.

I would have to find my photos to check my memory, but I believe there were a couple of those at the CVA (Crown Victoria Association) annual gathering last summer in Dayton. Many of the cars there were Canadian which surprised me. Then I found the parking area where the closed trailers were parked that they used to haul them in rather than driving them.

imidazol97

imidazol97 said:

I would have to find my photos

I haven't found mine, but I found those by a local chap who lists upcoming shows and cruise-ins
and posts pictures he took at many of those shows. He is thorough and gets at least one shot of
each vehicle. He has 1 Rideau and one Mercury Montclair.

His full group of 3 pages of shots are here: http://www.countrycruiser.com/2015/fords/index3.htm





Now this was totally unexpected. I didn't realize they existed.

andys120

I didn't know a glasstop Ranchero existed either and according to Wikipedia there were no Rancheros before '57. The pictured car is likely a custom conversion from a '56 Ford wagon--and I must add a very cool one!

imidazol97

andys120 said:

I didn't know a glasstop Ranchero existed either and according to Wikipedia there were no Rancheros before '57. The pictured car is likely a custom conversion from a '56 Ford wagon--and I must add a very cool one!

Two CVA's. Does the sidestrip on the yellow one indicate 1955 while the chrome on the orange one '56?
Also there is a difference in the type style for the word "Ranchero."


My own picture from that day at CVA national.

fintail

I see those CV pickups have different rear windows, which to me points to them being one-off customs, Kind of cool though.

When I was a kid in the late 80s, I remember a 55-56 CV glasstop would park at a Catholic school near my house, and I would ride my bike over to check it out. I think it was grey and white. I didn't realize it was so rare.

tmart

Those tail lights on the red and white are NOT from a 56 Ford. Maybe a Merc or Lincoln, but definitely not a Ford.

lostwrench1

tmart said:

Those tail lights on the red and white are NOT from a 56 Ford. Maybe a Merc or Lincoln, but definitely not a Ford.

1956 Mercury wagon.

stickguy

just watched the latest fantom works, and they worked on a 52 Merc woody wagon. Was quite the unattractive beast the way it was done. No accounting for taste I guess!

andys120

stickguy

1970 dodge coronet super bee?

andys120

1970 dodge coronet super bee?
R/T

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bhill2

andys120 said:

Bugatti Chiron. What is the hp up to now, about 1200 for the base model?

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stickguy

Coupe isn't bad looking. Almost got bentlyish lines.