Mystery car pix

berri

If you guys like airplanes and are ever in the Dayton, Ohio area make sure to get over to the Wright Patterson AFB Air Museum. Unbelievable collection and a great presidential airplanes annex as well. Really not that far of a drive from Columbus either.

texases

Growing up in Cincinnati Wright-Pat was my FAVORITE place to go.

andys120

Cannes, France:

stickguy

56 t bird bottom right.

lostwrench1

texases said:

Growing up in Cincinnati Wright-Pat was my FAVORITE place to go.

That place is beyond excellent. I drove there twice from Ct. to be there. What a collection. It takes at least two days to see everything. One can enter Eisenhower's Air Force One.

imidazol97

lostwrench1 said:

That place is beyond excellent. I drove there twice from Ct. to be there. What a collection. It takes at least two days to see everything. One can enter Eisenhower's Air Force One.

This page lists the exhibits. Clicking through the pictures representing each area at the top photo gives a lot of well-photographed planes.

The Presidential exhibit used to be on the base but is now in a new building accessible without taking a secure bus onto the base.

texases

Somebody needs some help
https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/46763/general/x/help-do-you-know-what-are-these-panels-from#latest

andys120

Reposting this because it's an interesting shot of Cannes, France in the mid-50s and oddly it's almost 50% American Iron, a reflection of the worldwide popularity of American cars in the early postwar era:



Stick guy has already called the black '56 T-Bird. I think the white car, closest to the camera but moving away from it is I think a Simca Aronde, France's most popular car in the 1950s.

Plenty other cars in this photo

lostwrench1

Crossing the intersection, a 1950 Buick.

andys120

lostwrench1 said:

Crossing the intersection, a 1950 Buick.

Behind that Buick is a white sports car that I can't quite ID which is really frustrating. There aren't many sports jobs that I can't ID.

The black car nearest the Buick looks like a (French) Ford Vedette or Comete. Behind it, a Citroen 2CV, and another way behind it.

fintail

Looks like an Opel Olympia Caravan under the palm tree at left, beside a person in what looks like a long white coat.

The white sports car is irking me too, I swear I know what it is, but can't figure it out.

andys120

fintail said:

Looks like an Opel Olympia Caravan under the palm tree at left, beside a person in what looks like a long white coat.

The white sports car is irking me too, I swear I know what it is, but can't figure it out.

The Opel Olympia Caravan was new to me but I found a pic of one:



As for the sports car. My first thought was perhaps it's an XK-120 FHC but the rear window is too large. Perhaps it's a Jag -120 OTS fitted w a removable h/t of some kind.

Any ideas on what the old looking car near the French Ford is?

andys120

Any ideas on what the old looking car near the French Ford is?

Im going to answer my own question. If you look at it carefully you can see a 1930s American style pointed grille. This could be a Fiat 1500 variant, perhaps a 1500D or E.



Photo by Deutsche Fotothek.

Simca may have built these under license as they did many prewar Fiats.

andys120

Hey Fin, is that a Mercedes Ponton next to the first 2CV?

lostwrench1

I'll grab the '56 Cadillac.

fintail

The Opel I see is the prior generation to the pictured one, but I am sure it is an Opel.

The car driving the opposite direction of the 2CV does resemble a lower line W120/121 Ponton, yes.

berri

That Opel wagon looks a bit like the Vauxhall ones sold at Pontiac dealers back around 57/58. The Opel is just a bit chunkier from what I remember seeing in the Chicago suburbs back then.

magnette

I agree the Opel Caravan is the earlier version than the one Andy has found as it looks squarer.

I think the white coupe ahead of the Simca Aronde may be a Simca Huit (8).

I'm not sure about the car coming towards us ahead of the Citroen 2CV as I don't think it is a Ford Vedette / Versailles - the grille is too deep.

I think it might be one of these - an Opel Kapitan - this version was introduced in 1955.

magnette

That old black car looks British to me - maybe an Austin or even a Vauxhall - but equally it could be a Fiat - I can't get the picture bigger on my monitor without losing the clarity.

andys120

stickguy

So Aston Martin. But they all look alike to me these days.

Michaell

Aston Martin ... Vantage?

andys120

Michaell said:

Aston Martin ... Vantage?

Yep, officially a 2003 Aston-Martin DB-7 Vantage V-12

Photos do not do this car justice, I;ve only ever seen one or two but they are really gorgeous.

andys120

qbrozen

The infamous McLaren F1, of course

fintail

Now that would have been a good investment, in car terms anyway.

texases

And better looking than the new ones, IMO...

fintail

Definitely. Like many high end brands, it isn't as edgy or unique as it was a generation ago, no different from a basic Ferrari or Lambo anymore.

andys120

Yup, that's a 1995 McLaren F1. It belongs to Boston Auto dealer/magnate Herb Chambers who is auctioning it off next month and will probably recoup more than 10 times the original list price of just under $1 million.

The rich get richer.

imidazol97

I knew I shouldn't have sold mine.

andys120

qbrozen

Porsche 968, according to the badge.

andys120

Doh!

andys120

fintail

Fun stuff. Is that a GAZ Pobeda in front of the Saab 92? I think the old car in the shot is a Chevy from ~1930. Maybe a ~51-52 Chevy 2 door HT behind the Pobeda. Numerous interesting things parked on the street too, maybe for later.

I'll start with a few others for now. The easy car I will let others identify (looks like a 1960-64 model) is flanked by a Volvo PV444 and a DKW/IFA F8.

andys120

The car to the left of the VW Beetle looks like a Mercedes 170S (W136/W191):

fintail

I'm pretty certain it is a DKW/IFA:

andys120

Guess you're right Fin. The 170S doesn't have wipers mounted in the roof.

andys120

Behind that '51/2 Chevy is a Willys All-Steel wagon and further up hill you can see it's Swedish equivalent, a two- tone Volvo PV544 estate, like this one:

fintail

Yep, I see the Volvo "Duett". I think split windshield makes it a 444. There are a few of those in this area. A couple cars in front of the Volvo, in front of a little van, looks like another early 50s GM, probably a 53-54 Chevy or maybe Pontiac, and in front of that, another Saab 92. Directly behind the Volvo is something odd, I can't place it, but it is familiar. Further back, at least one more American car, but the older American looking car could be a just-prewar Opel Kapitan.

At the top of the hill I spot a just-prewar Opel Kadett (or early postwar Moskvitch 400 war booty clone), and behind it, possibly a FSO Syrena? I know Scandinavia was more open to Eastern Bloc stuff than other areas.

Mr_Shiftright

Yes the 444 had a split windshield and a B16 motor, not the B18 of the 544. It wasn't a very good engine by the way, old Volvo worshippers be damned. It had only 3 main bearings and the crankshafts broke. It was an agricultural engine.

andys120

tmart

53 Ford

tmart

53 Ford Customline

andys120

tmart said:

53 Ford Customline

Good job of reading tiny lettering.

andys120

berri

55 Olds

qbrozen

andys120 said:

Came very close to buying one of those back in March. Son loved it. If the engine compartment was not such a godawful mess, I may have wound up with it.

andys120

Yup, that's a 1955 Oldsmobile w famous auto-journalist Tim McCahill behind the wheel.

andys120

Mystery dash>