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.00250 is marked up. Way up.
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Dealer quoted 0.0184 which is 0.0001 higher than the rates I'm reading here. I s that normal for them to mark up the rate?
Also dealer is not budging below 4% MSRP here in Florida. Claiming that they have a no haggle policy.
No dealer is going to bother marking up a rate by .00001.
54% residual
Dealers are free to ask whatever they want. You are free to shop other dealers.
It's the First Amendment at work!
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Also, what is the target percentage off that people in Illinois are getting, 5%, 6%, or 7%?
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Looking for MF and RV for 2018 Q7 P+ and Prestige 3.0 36/15k. I am in California.
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What is the MF and RV for 2018 Q7 P+ and Prestige 3.0 36/10k. I am in California.
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Also, i am doing some numbers here and getting contradicting results.
ONE PAY LEASE:
MF - 0.00125
Residual - 59%
MSRP - $59,650
Incentive - $1000
Agreed Discount - 6% off MSRP
TAX - 1.25% (this is discounted by Audi as part of one pay lease offer)
Acquistion fee: $895
Other fees incl tax title etc: $342
This is what i am coming up with:
Selling car price: $55,071+895+342 = $56,308
Residual: $35,193
DEPRECIATION COST: $21,115
INTEREST: ($56,308+35,193)*.00125 = $114.37/mo * 36mo = $4,117
TAX: $55,071*1.25% = $688
GRAND TOTAL: $21,115 + $4,117 + $688 = $25,920
The contradicting information i am getting is from the Edmunds app calculator, where same calculation gives me $ 25,262
What are you guys coming up with ??
Your calculations are correct.
The tax credits that are occasionally available in Texas definitely make for a better lease deal.
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Based on your response i am going to assume that texas does not charge sales tax on the interest portion of the lease
A one-pay lease is calculated as the monthly payment, multiplied by the lease term.
The monthly payment is the sum of the depreciation and the rent charge. In states like Texas, where the tax is collected up front, the tax amount is generally added into the adjusted cap cost, which then subjects it to both depreciation and interest.
Given that the tax amount is so low, the interest against it won't amount to much.
Had to think it through. Sorry for the bad information earlier.
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MSRP - $64,595
Discount: $2702
Selling Price - $61,893
Discount: $1000 (Loyalty)
Subtotal: $60,893
Taxes: ?? (have a question to the dealer on this as it doesn't look included)
Licenses and Fees: $367
Balance: $61,260
Residual Value - 59%
Money Factor- .00215
Miles per year- 12k
Months: 36
Money down - $2500
Monthly Payment $849-859
**Dealer agreeing to pay last 3 payments on current Q7 which will be $1500
When I calculate these numbers above, including taxes, I get a monthly payment of roughly $823 (instead of $849-859).
It appears that if I add the discount ($2702) + 3 lease payments ($1500), that they will say they are giving 6.5% off MSRP although not all is going to new vehicle making the true discount off MSRP roughly 4.2%.
I don't like to put any money down on a lease so if I take out the $2500 down with the same numbers above, the payment goes to $898.
Guessing the money factor is high here but wanted to double check. If I use 0.00184 for the money factor with the numbers above except no money down and including taxes, I get $867. Does that make sense? I am checking with the dealer on the taxes since I have a feeling they will say that still needs to be added to their numbers.
So, I'm looking to verify the Residual/MF and also if the calculations make sense. Don't mind paying $867 if the numbers make sense.
Thank you in advance!!
.00185 MF and 59% residual
As noted, the money factor is marked up.
You can't calculate the payment by subtracting the $2500 due at signing.
It's most likely that the $2500 goes to first payment, $895 acquisition fee, and dealer/DMV fees.
If I use your "Balance" as the adjusted CAP cost, I get $857/mo.
I didn't account for taxes, as I don't know your rate, or how Vermont handles sales tax on a lease.
If the dealer eats $1500 from your old lease, that certainly affects the deal you get on this one. No free lunch.
Why lease early? Dealer isn't giving a great deal, is marking up the money factor, and you are out $1500 for the remaining lease payments (no matter who actually pays them).
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The reason for possibly leasing early is that we thought we had 36k on the original lease but only have 30k. Of course we are at 34k. Not a big deal but adds up quickly.
Does it make more sense to wait out the lease and just pay the mileage penalty? Never have been over on our mileage so entering unfamiliar territory.
Thank you for any guidance.
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Thank you
Anyway, .00185 and 59% / 60%
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Selling Price 62,445.00
Government Fees 170.00
Documentation Fee 150.00
Acq Fee 895.00
Gross Capitalized Cost 63,660.00
Net Cap Cost 63,660.00
Residual Value 38,023.00
Amount Paid by Customer 972.08
Is the selling price reasonable? Any suggestion? Thank you very much!
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What is your tax rate? 10%.
If so, I get a payment of $1022/mo.
Are you getting loyalty rebates? Trade-in?
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Seems like I should starting working on a discount of 6% or ask for rebates. Appreciate your thoughts on further negotiation.
Also, if I am asking for other packages such as driver assistant package, etc. Are those extra costs added upon selling price or MSRP? Should I ask for discount for the extra packages?
WA sales taxes must have dropped recently?
Yes, look for another $1200-$1800 off MSRP.
It's still not going to be cheap to lease, relative to MSRP
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Is this true?
Tell them you want the base MF or you'll walk.
RV is fixed by Audi and cannot be altered by the dealer.
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60%/59% residual for either model.
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After negotiating back and forth....
Msrp: $69,495
selling price: $61,725
total down payment out of pocket: $5,000
36 month / 12k miles a year
monthly payment: $748
I know a big down payment is not advised but I think i got a good deal. I would love to get some reassurance from the experts from this forum. Thanks!
Do you have a breakdown of the $5000?
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