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With those prices, $792/mo plus tax - $847/mo if the tax rate is 7%. ($774 or $828 with AC)
Does the adjusted cap include both the acquisition fee and the steep Florida dealer doc fee?
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2018 Audi SQ5
South Florida (33154)
Premium Plus
12k 36m
Residual?
MF?
MSRP $64,980
Dealer Discount: 15% ($55,000)
Thank you! I am really lost with lease prices. Happy New Year!
State: FL
Trim: SQ5 Prestige
Color: Matador red metallic (love the color btw)
MSRP: 65,835
Selling price: 63145 (around 7.5% off)
Total Cap Cost: 66,424. The break down for this is 63145+895 (Acquisition)+899(doc fee for FL- one of the only reasons that it sucks to live in FL as the doc fee is the highest in the country)+869(Audi care)+661(Excess wear-i went for this as it gives a bit of leeway on the mileage as well as don't have to worry too much about always parking next to an empty slot (worried about the dings)=66424. The cap cost is important as it figures prominently in the calculation. If possible, try to pay the acquisition fee and the doc fee upfront so that it will bring your monthly payment down a bit.
Cap reduction Discount: 583. This discount would bring the cap price down, but please be advised that you will have to pay tax on it. If possible, ask the dealer to include the cap reduction in the selling price. I kind of saw it late and was too tired to haggle anymore.
Discounted Cap cost:65841, which is 66424-583
Residual : 43082.55, which is 63% for Prestige trim 12k/36 with Audi care. I believe the premium plus is 63% also for 12k/36 but without Audi care. BTW, the residual is always calculated off the sticker price not the selling price.So in my case, it's 63*68836/100=43082.55
Depreciation amount: 22758.45, which is 65841-43082.55=22758.45
Rent charge (AKA money factor monies): 7175.88 and the formula for this is (cap cost+residual)*moneyfactor*term. So, in my case it would be (65841+43082.55)*0.00183*36=7175.88
Total payment amount: 29934.33, which is depreciation+Rent charge
Monthly payment without tax: 831.5, which is 29934.33/36=831.5
Monthly payment with tax: 58.2 (7% FL-might differ with county)+831.5=889.7
I paid only the taxes and the registration upfront as the first month was covered by Audi.
Hope this helps and throws some light on the mysterious lease calculations. I wish i could have haggled more, but no buyer remorse as I love the car, especially the exterior color.
If you can afford the monthly payments, i would say go for the 15% off deal as it's really hard to find Audi dealers who would deals like that, but please be careful that they don't hide any other prices anywhere else as some shady dealers do and for that, you can use the above as a guide.
You really have to watch out for Florida dealers. It's not unusual for them to add $2000 of extra charges that you wouldn't see in other parts of the country. Along with marking up the money factor. So, what seems like a big discount turns into a crappy lease deal.
It's instructive that you have those numbers, but didn't tell us the payment or the amount due at signing?
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MSRP is 68,386 and drive-off was $400, pretty happy with the deal. I would have been a bit more happier if in addition to this deal, they had paid off my pending 4 month payment of my previous Lexus lease but cannot complain.
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I have to say that I usually feel dirty after and during the dealing with the finance manager to sign the paperwork because they always try to get you to sign stuff quickly without going through all of the numbers and details of the contract. It’s an opportunity where they can change the numbers on you or tack on small fees ($100 here, $50 there, etc).
Congrats, and enjoy!
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It seems to me that some dealers will try to show a high discount on selling price but then make up some of the profit on the back end by increasing the MF from the base...all without the buyer truly knowing or understanding.
It seems to me that some dealers will try to show a high discount on selling price but then make up some of the profit on the back end by increasing the MF from the base...all without the buyer truly knowing or understanding.
Yes, that is becoming a new tactic for luxury car leases. Ideally, you want the big discount AND the base MF.
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That is a sweet, sweet ride.
And, the outside of the RX just doesn't sit well with me. The SQ5 is just so much better looking.
But, Lexus sells every RX they can build, so it's popular with a lot of people.
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Also Q5 36/10 in PP and Prestige.
Q5: .00169 MF and 59%/56% residual
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Is there better sweet spot for length/mileage? Thanks
.00171 and 63% (P+) or 62% (Prestige)
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SQ5: .00171 MF and 61% residual
Q5: .00169 MF and 55% residual
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My factory order SQ5 arrived last week. Going to Dealer to pick up next week. Just wanted to ask for an update on the current MF and residual for premium plus in NJ 36/12k. Thanks!
Will dealers adjust prices if MF moves from time of factory order to delivery?
Thanks in advance!
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The SQ5 will be much more expensive to lease than the RX, but they are very different vehicles.
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.00171 MF is base.
Using the base MF, your payment should be $1046/mo, with just the first payment due at lease signing.
The only way to explain their quote is a massive markup to the money factor. (probably using .00271)
The discount is okay.. 5% of MSRP
Not sure what's included in the "essentials" package, but typically these have little value.
$1995 for wheels? That's $61/mo. just for different wheels.
The problem with accessories like wheels/essentials is they don't increase the MSRP, so you are paying full price for those, even though you only use them for 36 months.
Subtract the $1995 and the $787, and get the base MF (.00171), and the payment is $964/mo., with just the first payment due at signing.
I bet you can live with the stock wheels..
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window tint
paint protection door handles
paint protection edge guards
paint protection rear bumper
they want me to put 4500 down to get to the 900 payment. I guess I am getting screwed over correct?
window tint
paint protection door handles
paint protection edge guards
paint protection rear bumper
they want me to put 4500 down to get to the 900 payment. I guess I am getting screwed over correct?
Yes.. screwed.
Even if you pay the $787 upfront (I guess you need tint in Texas), you should be able to get the $964/mo. with just $1750 due at signing.
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That looks like a decent deal, then. A little better than $964/mo. with $1750 upfront.
You won't miss those wheels...
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