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What is the payment?
Are you applying the whole $8000 trade-in to the lease?
$780 per month. Not applying the $8K to the lease.
What state and tax rate?
Is the $62,135 inclusive of the incentive monies?
CA, 7.75% sales tax. Incentive of 3K is additionally applied to $62135.
Looks like a solid deal.
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Looks like a solid deal.
Great. Thank you for your inputs.
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MSRP 73020
Gross Cap Cost 65678.4
Sales Tax 353.26
Cap Reduction 4041.6
Net Cap Cost 61990.06
Trying to understand why cap reduction is 4041.6 (not 4000) and how the tax of 353.26 is calculated.
You'll have to ask the dealer what the deal is with the cap reduction - might be left over amount from the total cash due.
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Could the lease end charges be significantly higher for a 15K lease vs. a 12K lease?
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rogis said:
hello, i am headed to my BMW dealer in NJ tomorrow. interested in leasing the X5 M Sport edition. wanted to be equipped with the latest info to properly negotiate the deal.
what discount off of MSRP should i be looking to get? (7%?)
what are the latest RV and MF?
what fees should I avoid and which are unavoidable?
also, wanted to confirm that i should avoid putting any money down to lower my payment (although I've been told that i don't lose that money should the car get totaled; rather, this is just a down-payment to lower the payment)
appreciate the help in advance. can report back once I price the deal.
.00152 and 56% for 36/15
$3000 lease credit
7% off sticker, before incentives
Yes, any up front cash (cap reduction, in lease-speak) is at risk if the car is stolen or totaled.
$925 acquisition fee is mandatory
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Quick Update:
so I got the following deal on x5 M sport, 35i, and I wanted to confirm that I've got a good deal. I find the documentation quite confusing, I must say - and that is why the blog like this is so invaluable.
While I cant find it on the papers I've got, I was told that I've got the car for under invoice price of about $1800.
The MSRP is $73,910
Gross capitalized cost is $71,757
Adjusted capitalized cost is $70,149
36/10K lease, 59% residual
MSD applied (transferred from my prior lease, plus added a bit more to top up for the new higher lease pmt), MF of .00117 as a result.
Nothing paid down on day one
I clearly see that I've got the $3k rebate
Monthly lease payment of $870.40
Can someone please confirm the math as I cant figure out for the life of me why I was told I got the car ~$2K under invoice, and whether this seems like a good deal.
Thanks in advance!
2018 X5 x35i
10k /36 months
MSRP : 61585.00
Selling price : 56127.34
Rebate : 3000
cash from dealer:800
Residual: 59%
Adjusted residual : 36,335.41
MF: .00152
Down Payment includes
First months payment: 579
Cap cost reduction: 3000
SLS tax: 2275.91
1st year fee: 312.50
Deposit: 100
Other upgrade : 1000 (not sure what this is dealer said it was additional discount)
Got in touch with a couple of dealerships, so far have not picked a particular car.
Am having trouble navigating inventory as search filters do not offer search by packages and I do need at least an M package and Drivers assistance and leather. Some dealers don't even advertise exact packages on their websites. How did you search? I believe edmunds has a search engine but not the entire dealers inventory is in it.
Question to all:
Do I have more negotiating power in bargaining for a car that is on the lot of that particular dealer? If they offer to bring a car from another dealership - is there less room for me to negotiate? Also one dealer offered that I build a car and he will have it for me before the end of the month. In that case - do I have a lower negotiating power?
Need your advice - I have a Lexus ES350 that has 7 months left with $400/mo. I am thinking it makes sense to get an X5 now and return ES. The $3K will offset the remaining payments on the ES. If I understand correctly, there most likely won't be any deals such as $3k in July, correct?
Thank you,
Kevin
Just got a quote for a custom built x5 35i with M package, 10k/36mo, delivered before the end of the month:
MSRP: 70,485 (looks like $995 destination charge sits in this number as when I built it, it was exactly 995 less)
Selling Price: 65,200
Rebate: 3,000
NJ tax 6.875%
Bank fee: $925
Due at signing: $1,497 (everything rolled in the monthly payment)
Monthly lease: $818.58
Hoe does it look?
Can you give the #s for 2018 BMW X5 35i Xdrive for those terms? Thank you!
I can't tell you what price you paid, without a breakdown of how they calculated the adjusted CAP cost. There should be an agreed purchase price somewhere on your lease document.
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Eating $2800 in payments to take advantage of a $3000 incentive doesn't seem like a good reason to jump now, in any case.
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36 month terms are much better.
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found it, the agreed purchase price is $68,889. once u get chance, wanted to your verdict as to how good of a deal I got, and whether this ties out with the fact that I was told my deal was almost $2k below invoice.
thanks v much
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MSRP: 70,485 (looks like $995 destination charge sits in this number as when I built it, it was exactly 995 less)
Selling Price: 65,200
Rebate: 3,000
NJ tax 6.875%
Bank fee: $925
Due at signing: $1,497 (everything rolled in the monthly payment)
Monthly lease: $818.58
Thank you,
Kevin
https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/comment/5428002/#Comment_5428002
And, I already replied:
https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/comment/5428079/#Comment_5428079
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MSRP 72310 for x5 35 m package
sale price 66405
rebates 3000
MF 152
Upfront charges 1860 ? (i'm assuming 925 acq cost taxes on rebate and dmv reg)
cap reduction 1978
due at sign 1700
payment 861
am i missing something?
thanks!
I get $824/mo with tax using those numbers.
Ask the dealer for the adjusted cap cost, and make sure you understand what was added to the selling price to get there.
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when I negotiate, so I have a better chance to get a good deal on a car that the dealer has in stock rather than custom order?
thank you,
Kevin
Generally, any car you can drive away today is the dealer's preference, as that is a sure thing. That usually leads to the best price.
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1. MSRP - 7%
2. Rebate 3,000
3. Fleet discount 1,000
4. MF 152
5. Residual 59% on 10k/36mo
Should I try to push for more? How much more can I realistically push for?
$925 ACQ fee
$414 NJ Lux/Sup Tax. Is it for incentives/rebates ?
~$350 Reg fee
Documentary charges - $238 plus $161 for document transmittal.
Intro fill $98 (no idea what this fee for) Its on the lease order paperwork.
hope did not miss anything
Thank you
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Luxury tax - add to payment
Registration fee - pay up front
Doc charges - add to payment
I'm guessing the last item is nitro fill - this is a junk fee; try to get rid of it.
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MSRP: 73,785; 7% off, MF 152, residual 59%, NJ tax - 6.875%
$869.36 - 1st months payment due at signing
Sale Price - $67,620.00 (includes 1K fleet discount)
Inceptions capitalized in payment:
$2,159.20 - NJ Sales Tax
$925.00 - BMW Bank Fee
$304.50 - NJ Three year registration
$8.95 - Titling Fee
$6.00 - NJ Tire Tax
$270.48 - NJ Luxury Tax
$395.00 - Doc Fee
$4,069.13 - Total
$67,620.00 - Sale Price
+ $4,069.13 - Inceptions rolled into cap cost
$71,689.13
$71,689.13 - cap cost
- $3,000.00 - Holiday Credit (applied as cap cost reduction)
$68,689.13 - Net Cap Cost
Kevin
No issues with any of that.
$395 doc fee is kind of a garbage fee, but typical for NJ dealers.
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So based on all this, would you say it is a good deal?
Debating between the 2 options:
1. Due on delivery: $2,965.30, $806.10 per month
2. Due on delivery: $869.36, $869.36 per month
Does this look right?
Thank you,
Kevin
Pick option #2
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