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Demand a replacement. Alternator don't make much noise at all. Anything else means it's faulty.
You never mentioned any subs!
I'm out of this discussion. When you put a kazillion amps of load on a rebuilt alternator, you should expect non-standard life from it!!!!!!
Did the saleman that was wanting to wait out the warranty see your 'subs' by any chance?
Clive
did you accidently pull another hose off somewhere? are there any leaks?
around the assembly - look for any sensors and check all connections.
is the "main relay" the same as the "fuel pump" relay? not sure, but maybe you can do some googling or look in a haynes or other manual. i thought there were two different relays myself. i have come across references to both and am confused to be honest if people with this warm start problem are referring to a main relay, or some seperate fuel relay.
since you are having issues even on winter with idle, i'd be looking at the idle control valve / hoses, and perhaps there's an idle adjustment, or idle re-learn procedure. i'd also be thinking maybe the throttle body needs cleaning. did the vehicle have the throttle body cleaned with the tune up? maybe it's sticking. maybe there's some vaccuum hose off somewhere, or a leaky hose.
there also must be an attached TPS (throttle position sensor) to the throttle body assembly. there's probably a way to check it for proper operation with a voltmeter: that it's getting voltage and also that when you apply throttle it's signal ramps properly with increasing demand).
perhaps when you are completely off the gas when starting, it isn't reading fully closed (either because of sensor issue or body sticking) - then perhaps the idle control valve isn't being commanded to do it's thing properly and you are trying to start in a too rich condition.
hopefully someone else will chime in.
consistency is good. if you can get a Haynes and use a voltmeter, you can sluth it down some and perhaps get to the culprit.
another idea is to call around to some independant service shops dealing with Hondas and provide the symptoms and see what they suggest.
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http://members.troublecodes.net/hondadude/95AccordEGR.htm
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i suppose i'd run some injector cleaner on a full tank. if the code kept being thrown, i'd have someone knowlegeable about ignition/spark issues look at it.
It's my understanding the valves seldom fail. But there are vacumn lines and other solnoids and relays involved in this sub-system that can fail and set the code. And yes, on some motors the ports under the valve can become clogged and set the code.
Flushing the transmission fluid gets most all of the old fluid out, where changing it only gets rid of the excess that isn't actually surrounding the transmission at the time. Flushing it involves adding fluid, running the car to mix it, then draining it, and repeating the process several times to get most all of the fluid out, leaving you with something like 90% new fluid, where only "changing" the fluid will only give you maybe 1/2 new fluid mixed with old fluid.
Hope this helps!
ouch.
i think the thing people need to be careful of, and i haven't attempted this yet myself, just building up the courage , is first, correctly identifying the ATF drain plug.
then yes, using only honda ATF which is recommended.
then, using a careful strategic means of putting in the same amount of ATF back in as came out (and don't over-fill), and doing so 3 drains cycles while each time, exercising the gearing in forward and reverse.
apparently doing just a once drain and refill isn't going to replace enough of the old fluid with new. everyone seems to recommend 3 cycles.
and, you also have to have the ATF at temperature, and you'd think you must have to put the transmission through it's gearing forward and reverse during drives each cycle.
so to be honest, it appears to me at least it may be a tad more challenging than changing the oil.
re: funnel, do you have a suggestion? i'm thinking funnel and flexible hosing myself.
If you change the tranny fluid every 15k miles (I do), by the time you get to 60k miles (the recommended interval) you will have changed the fluid 4 times. I also want to change it before I get to 60k miles because by then the fluid will be 4 times as dirty. I'm not suggesting everyone should do it this way (some people have to pay someone else to do it), It's just my way.
so to be honest, it appears to me at least it may be a tad more challenging than changing the oil.
I guess I should have said easier for me (I know how much fluid to put in, and have the funnel to make it easy). I also have the Helm service manual, so it is spelled out in detail for me. The owner's manual has little or no information on this.
re: funnel, do you have a suggestion? i'm thinking funnel and flexible hosing myself.
I have a V6 engine, and can do it through the fill hole, instead of trying to pour it into the dipstick pipe. On a 4cyl. engine it may be totally different (the dipstick may be the only way on a 4cyl). Happy Hondaing
You guys are way, way, into overkill.
Tranny fluid doesn't get 'dirty'. There are no combustion blowby here. Heat is the only enemy.
If Honda engineers say 60,000 miles, and their manuals say only to drain and re-fill, not your 'flush' process, then 60,000 miles should be good enough. More is overkill.
to bolivar's point on intervals, i understand your point on 60K and it apparently appearing to be overkill to do it more frequently, but i've had 1 dealer and 1 independant, plus an accord 1998-2002 haynes manual recommend fluid changes at 30K intervals. i can say that after having my accord and odyssey serviced at this interval, i noticed definite shift quality restoration.
as they say YMMV.
They also had a recall on the transmission, after the engineers came up with this maintenance schedule. I would rather be safe, than sorry. Fluid does get dirty, that is why they put magnets on the drain plugs. Call me "Mister Overkill", but I'll do it my way.
Yes, tranny fluid gets dirty. Particles worn away from the clutch, and other things like the meshing of the gears create particles. Some is caught by the magnet in the drain plug, the rest is floating in the fluid, or lying on the bottom of the tranny.
Mrbill
Don't know, but since your friend has changed out the transmission, I would imagine Honda is less likely to do a goodwill repair with such a major modification to the engine. They might, but I'd think it'd be less likely.
Sounds like a classic case of warped brake rotors to me. They need to be refinished, or turned.
Remember those bad shopping carts when you try to push them too hard? Bad casters.
Also, I have the same problem with my car dropping RPMs and stalling in certain situations. The whole car shakes and if you don't hit the gas it completely stalls. Generally it doesn't happen going downhill for me. It's usually only when it's very slightly uphill and you let off the gas at a certain speed. It also happened once on the freeway in really slow traffic though.
I read somewhere that it might be a problem with the engine idling too low. Apparently there's a way to increase its idling speed? Does anyone know anything about that?
in my '02, similar to your '89, there are three fuse blocks.
there is a fuse block in the engine compartment that you need not worry about for this exercise.
then on each side of the dash, when you open the front doors, there will be access compartments to the fuses in the cabin interior. these doors pull out.
on the driver's side, pull the fuse panel. look for the ACC Relay Fuse in position 8 (7.5amps). in my '02 it's the column closest to the seat, 4th from the top (top being position 11, a 15amp fuse for the ignition coil). your panels should have a fuse diagram for you. the location (what is position 8 in my car) may be different from yours. There is a FR-> symbol indicating vehicle front on the fuse diagram.
if you want to cut to the chase, on the passenger's side, pull it's panel. look for the Radio Cigarette Ligher Fuse (20Amps) in Position 9 (on my vehicle, that's the column closest to the front bumper, at the very top).
based on the '89-02 Haynes Manual i'm looking at, it is the 20Amp fuse which is blown as it's the fuse which supplies power from the battery through the Accessory Relay Contacts when the Ignition is turned to / past ACC and the relay is energized. The 7.5amp fuse is the one supplying the coil of the relay with power which is energized when the key is turned. it's not likely to be the 7.5Amp fuse because electrically, there's no way for it to blow when the acc socket was shorted by your girlfriend.
it wouldn't be the fuse to the relay coil, but rather the higher amp fuse for the flow through the relay contacts.
i bet i know what happened. i bet the phone adapter / charger is a poorly designed one; one where the contacts for the plug are exposed in such a way that if the charger isn't plugged perfectly into the socket when the vehicle power is on, the thing ends up shorting the socket.
it's always a good idea to plug these things in when the vehicle is off so a poorly designed plug can't short the socket out.
see if that helps. if it doesn't, then the 20Amp fuse didn't blow quckly enough, and perhaps the contacts on the Acc Power Socket Relay are melted, and the relay needs replacement.
regards.
I don't have very much experience with cars at all though I'm trying to learn more about them, nor with electrical work, so a lot of that didn't make sense to me. I don't know what the ACC socket is or the relay coils, and it's pretty hard to find this stuff online. You have to sift through piles of irrelevant junk just to find something useful. But anyway, thank you.
Also, I have another question. I just took my car in to be serviced and they want to replace the SRS control unit and the brake switch. It looks like the SRS unit will be $350-500 for the parts and labor, how hard is it to do this myself? I don't have any trouble following instructions (if I had them), and I definitely don't have $500 to spend on non-essential stuff. It sounded like the guy was trying to screw me to be honest.
I was getting a recalled item replaced (the shift knob was locking in park, so I had to use my key to disable the lock every time I wanted to come out of park, and shift into neutral to start my car) so that's supposed to be no charge, but then the guy was trying to tell me I was having trouble shifting into drive and they need to replace the brake switch, which is complete bull, at least, symptomatically speaking. So they want to charge a bunch of money for that, how valid is that? My car wasn't doing the things they're saying it's doing, and he kept insisting that I WAS having what should have been very noticeable problems.
As for the SRS thing, I'd like to get some additional information on 1. How easy they are to replace, and 2. what my other options are. It looks like they're 50-80 dollars (99c on EBay?? haha), and apparently there's a recall on those as well for some issues with interference with cell phones. I'd really rather not pay to have the stupid thing replaced.
i'd get a second opinion on the SRS and the stuff from an independant. i can't really suggest what you need to do with respect to the SRS unit (what is wrong with it), because it is a safety item and i don't know much about it anyway.
you could get a Hayne's Manual which would only set you back about 16 bucks and from that, see what you could do yourself.
as for a manual, you could call Honda and get a manual from them or on Ebay perhaps 24-36dollars. There are places on the web to get manuals too.