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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,242
    "...don't look at me..."

    Ha ha I only used your name generically because you mentioned C4C. I should have used an emotorcon :P My point was that these programs always have unintended consequences .

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,242
    "...we all knew the car was cold..."

    To this day I don't step on the gas hard until the temp gauge is up to full operating temp. I remember doing that a few times in the early 70's and feeling that awful bucking and spitting. In the last few years before fuel injection cars had horrible driveability problems.

    Kind of makes you glad that the good old days are gone.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,242
    "...let's have some opinions..."

    I've forgotten the details of your car but I think it's fairly new(08) and that speaks for doing the job. Also, even though Chryslers are not considered sexy cars, a convertible is car you want to be "seen" in. If it doesn't look good I think it would take a bigger resale hit than say a sedan. Finally, if the paint is chipped your are inviting rust which can really kill the value of a car even if it's just cosmetic.

    I would invest maybe up to 10% of the car's value in that repair. Hope that helps.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,681
    >If I wanted to trade the convertible, should I put out the $887.60 expense or just trade it in as is?

    If you decide to sell private sale, I'd put a price on it with a little consideration to the damage. Let the damage be the tool with which the bidder offers less than your asking price. That would be in lieu of the bidder having to come up with other problems to lower your price.

    If you don't get an offer you like balanced against the trouble and cost of repairing it yourself, get it fixed, and then go for a straight sale.

    If you wish to trade it, I'd just let the dealer offer a little less. They can repair it at lower cost using some down time in the body shop unless their shop is stacked up after a recent snow, hailstorm, rain, etc. I realize the body shops apparently operate as a separate business than the dealership, but I still think if the car is desirable, and a convertible in NC with milder weather than Ohio is, you'll come out ahead.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • jipsterjipster Member Posts: 6,299
    edited August 2012
    At any rate, I decided to pay for the repairs out of pocket.

    Good decision. With a difference of only $387 extra out of pocket, not worth the risk or peace of mind.

    I would just go ahead and get the car repaired at your former student's body shop. You know he does good quality work. Not worth saving a hundred bucks, maybe, to take it to someone you are unfamiliar with.

    The crack in our Hyundai Veracruz windshield was repaired last week. Unfortunately, the repair is not satisfactory. Despite Safelite's claim of being able to repair anything under a dollar bill, the chip/crack that was being repaired cracked out a little bit more when the resin was being forced in. I thought this would probably happen, but wanted to at least try it... as I really did not want to have to replace our brand new windshield a month into ownership. Insurance is paying for the repair. Now they will be paying for a new windshield. Probably have it done late September when it starts getting cooler. :cry:
    2021 Honda Passport EX-L, 2020 Honda Accord EX-L, 2011 Hyundai Veracruz, 2010 Mercury Milan Premiere.
  • mako1amako1a Member Posts: 1,855
    it was a car that hit the convertible

    I used to have a white board in the garage to keep up with oil changes, inspections, etc. Now with only 2 cars (one with an oil monitor) I stopped updating. Result- wife's Denali was discovered to be 2 weeks past due for inspection and 600 miles beyond the oil change interval. All fixed now.

    Richard, while getting the wife's vehicle updated I talked to a friend in the biz that informed me that any car traded with damage gets low trade MINUS twice the cost of the repair. Since there will be no carfax on the damage, maybe a fix by your former student and trade of a pristine looking car is the best bet. Dave

    2013 Mustang GT, 2001 GMC Yukon Denali

  • verdugoverdugo Member Posts: 2,288
    I still like my "How we went out in the morning to buy a BMW and ended up coming home with a new Audi" story.

    Can you point me to your post? I'd like to read it.
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    any car traded with damage gets low trade MINUS twice the cost of the repair.

    Yeh, makes sense. If they can use any excuse to give you a lower trade-in amount they will, so why give them an easy one.

    When I traded the Cabriolet they said no one buys convertibles in November, even though I did. When we traded in my wife's 335, they could buy similar cars at the BMW auction.

    A dent on Richard's car will be the old, well we have to have it fixed in our shop and then we have to guaranty the repair, then we have to pay for that up front, and we have to pay or staff at their full wages, the car will be taking up a bay where we could be doing other work etc. etc.(I should be an appraisel expert!) ....I am sure you can't win, even though, the dealer should be able to do it at cost.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • verdugoverdugo Member Posts: 2,288
    We replaced ours with a GE GeoSpring hybrid water heater. Between the discount I get through work and a sale they had at the time, it was $800.

    It is a standard electric heater, but with a heat pump on top. It works opposite from a regular heat pump. Rather than extracting cold from the air and expelling hot air, it extracts the hot and expels the cold. The regular electric heating element is only turned on for really high demand situations.

    I really like it and as a side since it expels cold air, it cools the garage.
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    Can you point me to your post? I'd like to read it.

    The story starts at Post #Message #80297.
    You may have to follow the thread to get to the reasons...it was a long tiring day from 10:am until after 6 by the time we got home.

    I was getting a coffee the other day, and a guy in a really nice 335 asked me how I liked the 535. I said I did, and although it cruises really nicely, I kind of like the fun and nimbleness of the 335, and my wife preferred the A4 and I would consider one of those. He said, he had an A4 just before, and though he loved it, it wasn't as refined as the 335.

    I said, that was my feeling too, but that is part of the charm of the A4, it hasn't been made as slick as a bmw.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,351
    edited August 2012
    Well, also just for fun, it really doesn't matter what the specs say, most of us just tend to buy cars that we like. I mean, who would buy a car that they didn't like? As long as a car can pass that test we can rationalize the rest.

    That said, those links that you posted are initial quality ratings, not dependability or reliability ratings, but that really doesn't matter too much.

    What matters is that you own an Audi, you really like it, and apparently you like to go vroom, vroom while you are driving, which is fine...but the fact remains that the A-4 is not as reliable as a Camry.

    I am trying to be objective as I don't own an Audi or a Camry. If I had to buy a car tomorrow, I would probably split the difference and buy a Genesis.

    2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    ..but the fact remains that the A-4 is not as reliable as a Camry.

    I agree to agree 100% with every word you said.

    Today I went to buy a new office chair for my desk. Right now I have this IKEA chair that is made out of plastic, and isn't that comfortable. I found a really good chair at Staples.

    Then I remembered the car has a lumbar suppost, so I played around with that and I got a setting that felt good. Basically, I would say I made it bulge out just so there is some pressure on the lower back, kind of feels like my kidneys just got inflated.

    Does any one know what you are really trying to do when you adjust a lumbar support? I wish I remembered I had it on the Florida trip.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    I am in the market for a new washer and dryer, and am hoping that the folks here can provide opinions, guidance and advice.

    I'm looking for something that isn't entry level, but not top of the line, either. Probably around $1K for both would be the budget.

    Do not want the front loader washer - wife isn't convinced of their supposed advantages. So, top loader washer and electric dryer.

    Any brands I should focus on? Ignore? We've bought our last couple of appliances at the local Lowe's, and am inclined to return there.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,681
    edited August 2012
    Lowes, Whirlpool, Cabrio washer and matching electric dryer. The Cabrio is a top loader with a small vaned agitator on the bottom. It is very efficient with the volume of water it uses and it adapts to larger loads. The glass top makes it easy to check on whether you're added too much High Efficiency soap for the load size or not. Because it uses so little water, it's easy to use too much soap.

    Friends had bought the first generation and were happy. We bought the second generation and have had it for 4 years, I believe. Friends replaced their first one with a third generation model. They have 3 young adopted kids and she did several loads per day, so it had been well used for 6 or 7 years, or maybe a little more. Lowes has some good sales if you can wait for them. They bought the washer for about half price or less.

    Whirlpool is easy to disassemble to service if you are into some do-it-yourself work, if it needs something replaced. Mine hasn't.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    Fisher & Paykel make some very nice high efficiency top loaders. Might be worth a look.
  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    Probably have it done late September when it starts getting cooler.

    September should be OK but I wouldn’t wait for the weather to get any colder than that especially if they are going to do it in your driveway like when Mrs. j had a new one installed in her Subie a couple months ago. I was told that when the weather gets cold they don’t do it in the driveway because they want to work with the glass and the sealant strip when it’s not too cold.

    Now having said this, about 6 years ago a neighbor had his windshield replaced in his driveway in late November. He asked about the weather before it was done and was assured by the installer that the glass would be warm enough because the glass was put in the truck just before he left the shop that morning and the truck was warm. That part was probably true but when he had a leak a few weeks later he was told the sealant strip was probably in the truck and the trucks sit outside overnight so it wasn’t as pliable as it should have been. It turned out they replaced the windshield again at their shop and the guy that did the original installation was no longer with that company by then. Maybe he did this too many times, ya think? :surprise:

    Just be careful when the weather gets toward the cold side.

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    Fisher & Paykel make some very nice high efficiency top loaders.

    We have FP washer/dryer and it is 8 years old and gets used at least 3X a week. Works great, and sounds like a jet taking off when it spins.

    My wife doesn't want a front opener because you can't add more or stop it early. I could be wrong but FPs seem to be a little more compact. I know they are made in New Zealand but they seem to be more like a BMW, a little more compact and very tasteful styling, along with "a feel of the suds".

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    The crack in our Hyundai Veracruz windshield was repaired last week. Unfortunately, the repair is not satisfactory.

    Can you buy a windshield at a scrap dealer....windshields probably don't detiorate.

    Why not just take it to the shop to be fixed if the weather is too cool. I had my 2000 Jeep windshield replaced and it didn't take too long as I recall, and was only a few hundred dollars. I believe it was done by Speedy, not sure if they are in US, and it cost less than I expected, although it was a pretty flat small window.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,242
    As a resident of Florida who's seen a lot of cars traded you must be familiar with the havoc the sun plays on paint jobs. Many of the cars I see listed over in Tampa mention "clear coat failure" or "recent repaint". I imagine paying for a repaint in the south is like paying for rust repair in the north.

    What I wondering is how this affects the value of a car. On an otherwise excellent older car how much would you deduct for faded paint. Here in NY a decent paint job costs at least $1500.

    Would you deduct anything if the car had been repainted considering how common that must be down there?

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    edited August 2012
    Would you deduct anything if the car had been repainted...

    Definitely! You have to say to yourself, "...why was the car repainted?"

    Was it due to an accident? Rust? Failure of the pigment? Fading? Just because the customer tells you it was due to fading doesn't mean it was the reason for the repaint! And what about the next buyer of that car - what would he think?

    That's why any repaint, partial or full, is an alarm to an appraiser. Let's say the car was 7 years old. I would deduct 10%-20% of the value of the car depending on the quality of the repaint. A good total repaint on a car would cost $2000 if it's a good one. An average repaint would cost $1200 - $1500.

    Because of the advent of clear-coat finishes, I used to see very few repaints. Cars don't fade that much anymore, and it doesn't take a repaint to bring back a car's luster or finish. There are many chemicals and refinishing techniques that do the job just fine.

    If the car was just faded, which is rare as I mentioned above, I would deduct about 10% of its value as I could have the finish restored. If the finish could not be restored, 20% would be the deduction.

    So now you know why I would appraise a reprinted car much lower than one that is not. I hope I answered your question.

    2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger

  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,019
    Fezo hope hope you are feeling better. Hang in there.

    Richard, I'd get the car fixed, I can't stand damage on my cars.

    Washers: I have a Maytag similar to the Whirlpool Cabrio Imid mentioned. We love it.

    Water heaters: stop talking about them. Mine is ancient and I don't want to jinx it.

    I've been non stop recently. Been working out of the office and much longer hours. I am just about at two months to go for the wedding. Invites are out and responses are coming in. Lots to do, my Fiancé is starting to stress (just a little ;) )

    2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,681
    >vMaytag similar to the Whirlpool Cabrio Imid mentioned

    Glad you mentioned that. There is a rebadged Maytag version. I forgot that. We love the Cabrio--IIRC, it licensed the Paytel-Heckle technology from them.

    >Water heaters: stop talking about them. Mine is ancient and I don't want to jinx it.

    I hug mine and give it a kiss occasionally. I think it's 16-18 years old; might be 20. I can't remember when I installed it agewise. But I don't want it to go bad on me. I drain it regularly to flush out sediment and tried to replace the anode rod but couldn't break the old nut loose so I quit before I broke something.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,846
    I've been non stop recently. Been working out of the office and much longer hours. I am just about at two months to go for the wedding. Invites are out and responses are coming in. Lots to do, my Fiancé is starting to stress (just a little )

    We are two months out as well. Responses coming in, gifts coming in. Stress is an understatement. We've registered for all this stuff, and I swear, I have no idea a) what half of it is and b) where the heck it is all going to be kept. Our apartment is not THAT big.
    2025 Jetta GLI Autobahn, 2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xE
  • jipsterjipster Member Posts: 6,299
    edited August 2012
    Just be careful when the weather gets toward the cold side.

    Thanks. Wasn't thinking how the cold might affect that sealant strip.

    The guy who tried to repair the crack, a few days ago, thought I had better than 70% odds of getting a good repair, as the temp was much cooler that day. He said spider cracks are more apt to split down the windshield under high heat.

    It was like watching surgery on your favorite dog when the Safelite tech put that suction cup resin inserter (or whatever you call that gizmo) over that crack.... hard to watch knowing I might hear a loud cracking sound. It cracked about 3/4 an inch more on one of the spider legs. Not horrible, but noticeable enough to want it fixed.
    2021 Honda Passport EX-L, 2020 Honda Accord EX-L, 2011 Hyundai Veracruz, 2010 Mercury Milan Premiere.
  • jipsterjipster Member Posts: 6,299
    edited August 2012
    Can you buy a windshield at a scrap dealer....windshields probably don't detiorate.

    Our insurance company is covering the cost of a new windshield. Not sure if it's Kentucky law, or that we have full coverage on the vehicle. State Farm said they would cover 100% at no risk for higher rates... so that's when I stop asking questions. :blush:

    When I do get it repaired, the factory that makes the oem glass for the big car manufacturers is suppose to provide the glass.

    On kitchen appliances... I've always have gone with Whirlpool. Except for recent purchase of a Whirlpool refrigerator last year (buzzing sound every 20 minutes, ice maker not putting out enough... IMO, doors slightly out of alignment) I've been more than happy.

    Anyone else have a "buzzing" refrigerator? I do keep beer in the bottom shelf, and have noticed a can missing from time to time. :confuse:
    2021 Honda Passport EX-L, 2020 Honda Accord EX-L, 2011 Hyundai Veracruz, 2010 Mercury Milan Premiere.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,809
    Not sure if it's Kentucky law

    That's it... no deductible on glass breakage in KY... :)

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    Instead of going to the last post 82246 I made a mistake and went to 8246. I started reading the post and thought it was interesting, but there were some new people posting there.

    Anyway, this was what they were discussing (and yes, that is still our Dino);

    Dino: it matters not what you and I think. Those are "standard" perceptions in our society and whether we like it or not it pays to conform at least to some extent... Let us say you are a "successful" attorney/accountant and you pull up in a really cheap and/or old car: client will think that you are either real cheap or not very successful? If you pull up in an S-class, it is safe to assume you are either successful braggart, overcharge your clients, or living beyond your means? Conversely, if you show up in a nice Accord, Camry, or Avalon, you might be getting the best of all worlds.

    IMO, it is usually best to have a nice car for business, but not too nice, or people wonder how you can afford it! Some jobs, like a real estate salesperson, there is no limit...you would be impressed and think they were excellent at their job if they drove a Bentley. A mutual Fund saleperson, something more modest might make him seem more trustworthy. I wonder what Bernie Madoff drove?

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,242
    "...hope I answered your question..."

    Yes, and very well too.

    But now you've got me wondering about those chemicals and stuff to restore faded clear coat cheaply. :confuse:

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,242
    "...Fiancé is starting to stress..."

    Don't worry they all do that as they starting thinking "I'm spending the rest of my life with HIM!"

    My fiance' did the same thing but after I did some yelling and furniture tossing she was convinced enough of my love to go through with it.

    I've managed to fool her into sticking around for close to 40 years now. ;)

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    We have FP washer/dryer and it is 8 years old and gets used at least 3X a week. Works great, and sounds like a jet taking off when it spins.

    My wife doesn't want a front opener because you can't add more or stop it early. I could be wrong but FPs seem to be a little more compact. I know they are made in New Zealand but they seem to be more like a BMW, a little more compact and very tasteful styling, along with "a feel of the suds".


    F&P is based in New Zealand but manufactures in Mexico, Taiwan and Italy. They closed most plants in NZ and US and moved to Mexico back in 2008. Now that may not be a bad thing as engineering is still based in the former areas.
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    Now having said this, about 6 years ago a neighbor had his windshield replaced in his driveway in late November. He asked about the weather before it was done and was assured by the installer that the glass would be warm enough because the glass was put in the truck just before he left the shop that morning and the truck was warm.

    Its not so much the glass being warm but the adhesive. One local windshield company around here advertises that they have ovens in their trucks to keep the adhesive at 180 degrees to ensure a good seal.
  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    That's it... no deductible on glass breakage in KY...

    In PA there is a deductible for windshield replacement based on the comprehensive section of the auto policy. Mine is $100.

    Now I’m starting to think about these new car events. I know, we’ve all said that things always seem to happen to new cars but then it may be the drivers that put their cars in jeopardy. Like Mrs. j’s new Subie. First a shopping cart rams it in a parking lot then a couple weeks later the windshield needs replaced. With Mrs. j she even had an engine blow up on her car. The ’05 XG350 was her car when it blew up but when it was new it was my car and I had no problems with it at all. Turned it over to her when I got the Genny in ’09 and 2 plus years later she breaks it.

    Still haven’t gotten the shopping cart damage repaired to the right front fender of the Subie. Three days ago while I was driving her Subie a woman backing up in a shopping plaza almost backed into the right front fender but I was able to avoid being hit. After I got out of that near miss, I almost kicked myself for not letting her hit the car. Then her insurance would have paid for the repair and I wouldn’t have to take $300 out of my pocket for that.

    Yeah, I’m really starting to think about how owners take care of their cars. :confuse:

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl

  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    I've managed to fool her into sticking around for close to 40 years now.

    Really? I passed that up in July (same month as my B day). I’ve been happily married for 42 years. Out of 45 that ain’t bad. :P

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    I was checking out a 2013 VW Passat on Edmunds and I got to The True Market Value price. How do you find out if there are any extra incentives at this time?

    The site says I can get dealer quotes from my area. Does that mean it will be a free for all and I will have dealers hounding me, or will they just send ma their own best prices possible?

    We talked to a salesman when we were in Florida in February, and he was very good, showed us the cars, explained things very well, gave us an all in price that was fair but about $400 better than Edmunds best pricing. He has left the dealership and they will give me a new salesperson to talk to. Am I better off just getting the best price I can from that salesperson or should I use the Edmunds site and have dealers compete for my hard earned dollars?

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    . After I got out of that near miss, I almost kicked myself for not letting her hit the car

    I was wondering why you didn't let her just hit your car!

    I once had a 1962 Comet that I drove around hoping somebody would hit it.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    Years ago I had one of those convenient accidents. The back bumper on my 69 Volvo had gotten bent is a parking lot hit. A couple of months later some clown ran a stop sign and hit the rear quarter panel and twisted that bumper good. Nice of him to fix that for me.

    Richard - get the car fixed before it drives you crazy. The dogs are afraid to poop around it now.
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    I was wondering why you didn't let her just hit your car!

    I’d like to say that it’s because I’m honest but I’m not as quick on my feet mind as I used to be. :sick:

    Mrs. j wasn’t with me when this happened and if someday I let it slip that I tried to let that woman hit her car, I’d be posting with a lisp. :cry:

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    Richard - get the car fixed before it drives you crazy. The dogs are afraid to poop around it now.

    LOL.....Besides, if something should happen to Richard I am sure you don't want to inherit a car with a big dent in it!

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,242
    "...out of 45 that ain't bad..."

    You should have yelled and thrown furniture. You could have made it a clean sweep. :P

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,242
    Nah, not on cars....this is REALLY important!

    GE has issued a recall on dishwashers! Fire danger.

    I knew you would all drop everything to check on this. :)

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,351
    Our 45th is this Sunday. Same month as my wife's B-Day. Hope we make it another 45 !!

    2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460

  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    You should have yelled and thrown furniture. You could have made it a clean sweep.

    I did that. That’s why it’s 42 out of 45. She has a mind like an elephant from those early years. Every so often she brings it up and there goes the batting average. Something tells me she’s not the only wife that does that. :surprise:

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl

  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    GE has issued a recall on dishwashers! Fire danger.

    Again ?…we talked about this a few years ago. They did that when our GE dishwasher was 10 years old. That time it was because of using the rinse aid dispenser. Just one time was enough to ruin the seal and get that potion on the wiring harness insulation in the door. Ironically, about 2 weeks before we got the recall notice Mrs. j said she smelled something funny with the dishwasher. It took a long time for us but that’s when it happened. I blew that off by saying she put one of the grandkids soft plastic dishes on the lower rack and when the heating element came on during the drying cycle, that caused what she was smelling. She said she didn’t see any melted plastic dishes. I followed that up with a brilliant comment like, “you have to look a little closer because it doen’t have to be completely melted. It doesn’t smell like that for no reason”. Needless to say when the recall notice showed up she was waiving it in my face. :(

    At that time GE was offering a free repair or giving a credit toward a new dishwasher based on the model you had. Our model qualified us for $125. So, since the dishwasher was 10 years old at the time we opted for the $125 credit. Two years later in January of 2010 we did a kitchen redo and that perfectly good 2 year old white GE dishwasher was replaced with a stainless steel job (had to be color coordinated you know). Now that GE dishwasher is in our basement. Still don’t know if we’ll give it away or sell it. My guess was it wouldn’t bring any more than about 75 bucks and that was in January 2010. Every so often Mrs. j says, “if you wait any longer deciding how you want to get rid of it, it won’t be worth anything”. :sick:

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl

  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    Our 45th is this Sunday. Same month as my wife's B-Day.

    Pass on my best wishes to Mrs. houdini and a double congrats to you. So, tell me, what do you think she’s going to buy for you? :)

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl

  • wlbrown9wlbrown9 Member Posts: 867
    In the shorter run, we could just convert the natural gas into diesel. The distribution system is already there for diesel, new stuff like hydrogen will require a huge investment in infrastructure for distribution. Converting to electric will require expansion of the power grid (plus a lot of electricity is generated by DIRTY coal).

    http://www.bankspower.com/techarticles/show/19-synthetic-diesel-fuel

    http://seekingalpha.com/article/616151-sasol-proves-natural-gas-to-liquid-fuel-t- echnology-can-be-profitable
  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,351
    Mrs. houdini says thank you.

    Mrs. houdini is a remarkable woman. She has never admitted to being wrong about anything in her life. Come to think about it, that is probably why she has put up with me all these years. :)

    2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460

  • jipsterjipster Member Posts: 6,299
    That's the best they can do... a measely 75/100 bucks? What a jip! :mad:

    Your dishwasher is included in the recall.
    Model number: PDW7380N10SS
    Serial number: VM819109B

    Based on the information you submitted, you have two options. Choose option A or B:

    A. Replace your dishwasher using a GE rebate offer. GE is offering a rebate of $75 for the purchase of a new GE front-control plastic tub dishwasher or a GE rebate of $100 for the purchase of a new GE front-control stainless tub dishwasher or GE Profile top control dishwasher. You will need to mail in the rebate form along with the model tag off your current dishwasher and the receipt showing the purchase of the new dishwasher prior to receiving the rebate.

    Download rebate form

    B. Schedule free dishwasher repair service for recall-related issues
    2021 Honda Passport EX-L, 2020 Honda Accord EX-L, 2011 Hyundai Veracruz, 2010 Mercury Milan Premiere.
  • bwiabwia Member Posts: 2,913
    I am in the market for a new washer and dryer.

    I am late to this discussion but here goes:

    We just recently purchased an LG 4.7 cu ft top loader washer at Sears for $999 less a 30% discount. The machine is fabulous. It is quiet, gentle on clothes and washes clean. It has a 1200 RPM spin cycle and the clothes is practically dry after the spin cycle.

    By the way FWIW, Consumer Reports rates the LG very highly and their washers are rated as having the fewest problems as well.

    For the money you want to spend you will have to buy a washer with an agitator. Unfortunately, this is becoming ancient technology and besides there a very few agitator choices on the market.

    I hope this helps.
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    For the money you want to spend you will have to buy a washer with an agitator. Unfortunately, this is becoming ancient technology

    Sounds like useful information. A front loader has a life span of about 11 years, a top loader 14 years (for some reason).

    It seems this LG model might cost a little more than the $1000 budget for a washer and dryer, but using the "Driver Price Averaging Fomula" it might cost $20 or $30 a year to have a really good washer/dryer than a mediocre one.

    In fact, it might cost less as it will probably last longer, and will certainly do a better job for the years you have it. Probably better technology for saving water and electricity too.

    Life expectancy of washing machine

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    OK, the process has begun for buying the Passat for Florida. There aren't any 2012 SEs with manual transmissions left, which is just as well....I don't like to save $1000 or 2 and have a one year older car worth $3000 or $4000 less right off the mark, unless the savings are significant - which they might be on say a Fusion where there is a major change in the actual car.

    I checked out on Edmunds to see what the True Market Value was for a 2013 SE with manual, no other options needed. It says MSRP is $24740 (incl transportation), Inv $23758, and True Market Value was $23,990.

    Our salesman has left so I have a new saleslady. I didn't give her the price I wanted to pay, though she really wanted to know that. She also told me the cars are selling fast so there isn't much discounting. I said, I didn't want to tell her the price I wanted to pay, I wanted her to work out a price and give me their price, with a breakdown will all the extras...bottom line out the door price. I said, I won't go to different dealers to save $100, and I know they are in business to make money, but I don't want to pay more than I have to. I said I can use various internet sites to come up with a price or put it out there to see who comes up with the best price.

    She said it was Saturday so they are busy, but, she will get back to me early next week.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

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