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The 300 is still doing well, BUT, the Charger has huge inventory numbers. Last time I looked it had something like a 120 day supply. Hot cars don't have 4 months worth of inventory.
Still looking for the $6000 off on 2006's though. Hoping my Envoy XL I am buying gets the big discount because it is out of production now.
I did get into the Automotive News incentive site and all the old big 2006 SUV's/trucks have discounts ($5500 on Yukon/Tahoe/Suburban, $4000 on avalanche, $2500 on pickups) but still only $1000 on the Envoy's.
Still hoping Igor can sniff out the big discounts for me!
Cadillac
Chevrobuitiac
Saaturn
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060228/BUSINESS01/602280376/10- 14
The second one mentions the huge Gm discounts..
I have no more info than that
Igor
Rocky
Every 2006 GM vehicle has less than $1000 discount except for the big old trucks. Heck Honda is offering $1000 on their Ridgeline, more than what I can get on an Envoy!!
The management of the company is/hasbeen well-paid throughout this.
Doesn't have a thing to do with someone refusing to work. If you don't like the way your bosses are paid, go get another job. I prefer to do my job and not worry about what the boss is paid.
Turboshadow
Back in the 60's and even the 70's, a Caprice really was a nicely trimmed car inside. Nicer, in many ways than a base Bonneville, Electra, or Ninety-Eight. Although by the mid '70's, all the cars started getting really plush in their upper trim levels.
Depends on what you mean. The number of divisions is a problem for a number of reasons. Not only does it create excess bureaucracy within the company, which likely creates a competition for and a misallocation of resources, but it also creates brand confusion for the customer. It also carries with it redundant dealer networks that effectively cannibalize each other, rather than provide product variety to the marketplace, which was the whole idea of the divisions in the first place.
The main purpose for having seperate divisions is to create brand identification that makes each brand and nameplate distinct from each other. If consumers don't see a tangible and positive difference between Chevy and Pontiac, then each brand harms the other, as consumers can't see the value of either if they simply blur together.
That being said, renaming all the current cars as Chevrolets, etc. wouldn't help, either. The GM organization would save substantial sums if it begin combining nameplates AND reducing the number of different models/ marques that it sells. In addition to saving money, it would also allow the company to develop some distinct, unique products, and then craft a unique identity for each one of them so that they can compete.
If you're going to create a marque, then you need to create a distinct identity for that marque so that consumers understand it, look for it, and willingly pay whatever it is that you'd like to charge for it. Too many marques creates the same dilution and confusion effect that is created by too many divisions.
The management of the company is/hasbeen well-paid throughout this.
Doesn't have a thing to do with someone refusing to work. If you don't like the way your bosses are paid, go get another job. I prefer to do my job and not worry about what the boss is paid.
Well I guess if you work at McDonalds and don't like what your boss is being paid, then yes Burger King, for you is just down the road.
However most people care about their careers obviously more than you and that's why they are peeved because their boss is making a undeserved salary. Go get another job is a answer by a Wal-Mart employee.
"Hey K-Mart is hirring" ha ha ha... :confuse:
Whatever.......
Rocky
While I don't approve of any company not treating employees fairly, I have no issues with someone willing to take someone else's job.
We are all basically replaceable, some more than others.
So called scabs have a right to work as anybody else.
Or try to get the bosses job, he's a dead beat anyway. Right?. Nothing wrong with trying to move up. Bottom line, if your getting paid a fair wage, you shouldn't worry about what your boss is making. Most middle managers are not overpaid, particularly when many work 20 hrs of OT a week w/o OT pay.
Last I checked, not to many people are tied to their job. My opinion, if you don't like how the company you work for is run or where your career is headed, look for another job. Life is to short to have a job your unhappy at.
Loren
Loren
Rocky
We are all basically replaceable, some more than others.
So called scabs have a right to work as anybody else.
So you feel it's ok for scabs to cross a union picket line when they(strikers) are trying to improve working conditions, pay, benefits, at their place of work ????? We agree on alot of stuff diesel, but this is one area that we obviously disagree.
Lets put this way. If someone crossed my picket line, they'd be in the hospital and I'd be in Jail.
Rocky
Lets put this way. If someone crossed my picket line, they'd be in the hospital and I'd be in Jail.
Rocky
Well I'm playing both sides of the fence. I understand why a union is employing a strike and it is their right to do so.
At the same time, I can't blame a person crossing a picket line to earn a living. May not be a wise thing to do, but it is their right regardless.
Not all strikes are created equal. Walgreens has union pharmacists in their Chicago area stores. They went on strike last summer and 1/2 the members crossed the picket line.
And who's right on what's fair? Just cause the union thinks it's fair doesn't mean it is. Maybe the company really can't afford to pay the wages the union feels it's worth. What's the company to do, if it feels it's right, just give in...
If I ran my own company, I'd do what ever I could (within the law and good judgment of course) to avoid union membership. I would pay my employees what was reasonably fair and I would create a fair work atmosphere (this is not rocket science). But my first priority would be profitability, without it you can't have job security.
At the same time, if I can't blame a person to cross a picket line to earn a living. May not be a wise thing to do, but it is their right regardless.
Not all strikes are created equal. Walgreens has union pharmacists in their Chicago area stores. They went on strike last summer and 1/2 the members crossed the picket line.
Unfortunatly they do have the right to cross a picket line. In Canada for one it's illegal. And yes it isn't wise to cross, when the union is united.
diesel, I don't hate management when it's fair and treats it's employees with repect. Their just happens to be some company's that have good management, and others aren't so good. The type of management I can't stand is a system where you got to kiss [non-permissible content removed] to move up. A system where merit is a minor requirement.
Ex. One of my supervisors at work got promoted because he went and shoveled his boss's driveway and walkway(at home) by hand. :surprise:
Some of the other guys that had college degrees or had good leadership skills weren't promoted. :confuse:
BTW- This guy also last summer tried to send us over to the fire dept. for breathlizers. Wanna know why ???? :surprise: Because we had some JIM BEAM BARBEQUE SAUCE we put on chicken during a "feed" as the say in Texas->
Well diesel a union isn't neccessary in all places of work. A good leader can avoid a union when he/she treats employees with respect and fair pay.
Rocky
While I'm generally not pro union. I agree that unions are/have been necessary. Certainly, I wouldn't nor should anyone have to put up with the things you mentioned and I don't doubt for a minute these things happen.
For a street car, the V6 would be a good balance for fuel economy, performance, better car balance, and cost. For go fast speed the GTO would be good, as would the 300C, which also looks like pretty good luxury to me. I hope the seats in the new CTS are better than he original car, which had little lumbar support. And please, would does it take to get GM to put telescopic steering in these cars. As for the interior, I guess it is better, but far from World class. Yeah, likewise with the 300, not bad, but not the best. It is just the cost of a Cadillac -- people expect more.
If I find one a year or two old, with good seats, I may do a test drive of the CTS. The CTS-V seem like a waste of money to me. That is " to me " and of course if someone has gotta have something, then is worth it that person. Sort of like paying an extra $2 to 5K on a Solstice, of a Mustang GT when they came out. Whatever make ya happy.
Loren
Rocky
Rocky
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Rocky
My FIL G/F said her friend has a "new" Shelby GT500 they baught in California. I guess her B/F is a hot shot lawyer that new some people. My FIL G/F said it says Shelby on the dash and GT500 on the doors at the bottom. The weird thing is they said it was an automatic. Does the new Shelby come with an automatic ????
I'm saying B.S. until I see it in person. Just was wondering if you or anyone else has got their hands on a stowed away Shelby GT500.
Rocky
GM is a little behind Ford on Pony cars.... well maybe more than just a little. The Camaro project does off some hope though.
Loren
The Mustang California edition is out. Looks like for around $24K you can get a GT with a V6. Isn't a base GT like $25K or so? I see lots of Mustangs selling in the $28K+ range, which I find to be a bit much. And then there is the Saleen for $47K. Wow- if ya got the bucks, and don't want a Corvette, you can get a 330HP Stang/Saleen.
Not sure I like the plastic add-on stuff. For the bucks, I would go Vette.
Wonder if Chrysler beats GM to production time for their pony cars ?
Loren
BTW- wouldn't be sweet sitting at a stop light next to a 07' Shelby GT500 in a Five Hundred and something horsepower 2007 Cadillac CTS-V. :shades:
It would be my dream.
VAROOM VAROOM VAROOM !!!!!!!!!!!!! :surprise:
hahahahahaha !!!!!! BYE BYE BYE "SHELBY" ahhhhhhh!!!!! Tell Carroll I said hello and also tell him he should of gutted it out at GM...... :P
Rocky
Yeah Loren I think it's all a lie as far as my FIL G/F telling him her G/F has a new Shelby GT500 Convertible and it being an automatic. :confuse: The Vette is indeed a better buy. I'm sure I could dig up the difference underneath the cushions.
Thanx
Rocky
Thanks for the personal attack. For your information, I am a CAREER engineer, and I try to make the best career moves possible.
and that's why they are peeved because their boss is making a undeserved salary.
Once again, the bosses may or may not be making an 'undeserved' salary. Just because the employees percieve it that way does not make it so.
Go get another job is a answer by a Wal-Mart employee.
No. No it isn't. It is a rational response.
A guard standing at the bank type vault door asks "What does one call brzen theft of tens of millions?"
The answer is "In American it's called CEo compensation."
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
"If you steal a little bit of money, you're considered a common thief. If you steal a whole lot of money, you're considered a successful businessman."
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Not a bad plan. I'd probably vote for Pontiac, as it's the nameplate with the best hope for crafting a performance image, and such a move would help to reposition it.
What's even more insidious about brand confusion, is how GM will take one platform and make 4 mediocre cars instead of just one or two fantastic ones.
That is why you see missing options like climate control on an Impala; GM puts it in what they perceive to be their "upmarket" cars. Unfortunately for GM, the only people who see the difference between a Chevy, Buick, and Pontiac all work for GM. Nobody else gives a rip. To use that same example, if I want an Impala but require climate control, I'm not going to buy a Buick or Pontiac because it DOES have climate control - I'm going to go buy another vanilla sedan that my peers drive such as Camry or Accord.
GM still fails to understand that they have to compete with Ford, Nissan, Honda, and Toyota; instead, they still think they need to compete with themselves. And it's going to be their undoing.
There is certainly some competition between divisions at GM, but I do not see how that hurts GM. But I would agree that GM does not do a great job of making the different makes of a particular platform distinct from one another, although the Impala, Grand Prix and LaCrosse are better.
The basic problem at GM is that everything is mediocre->not bad, but not top notch either.
Wow, everything? Cadillac's are mediocre? The CTS, STS, DTS and XLR are mediocre? Including the V-series cars? The SRX which was just voted best luxury SUV for the third year in a row by Car & Driver, is mediocre?
The Silverado, Tahoe and Suburban must surely be sub-standard in your book.
How about the Corvette? Even the Z06 is mediocre? Gee. You don't think you might be over stating things just a wee bit?
Considering the dash on the Impala, Grand Prix, and Lacross all accept the same-sized modules, I don't think it would really cost GM anything to put ACC in an Impala.
You can get ACC on an Altima, Camry, and Accord; why doesn't GM feel it needs to be competitive? My assertion is that they look at their car lines in a vacuum, without taking the "real" competition into account as much as they should.