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Residuals very rarely go up through the model year.
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.00100 MF
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Received this deal today:
2018 XLE AWD, 36 month, 12k, Northern NJ w/ 6.875% tax rate
MSRP: $43,146
Selling Price: $37,935
Net Cap: $42,110.39 ($419 doc fee, $650 acq. fee, $1850 for lease payoff, $337 for MV fees, and &919.39 for taxes; $460 cap deduction for customer cash)
65% residual
MF: .001
Monthly: $460.87
Due at signing: $460.87
Good deal? Also, I want to apply MSDs to this lease but they told me that I couldn’t because it’s not a standard lease, it’s subvented. I’ve never heard of this given that the MF is a fairly standard rate. Is this true?
Thanks!
Dealer is correct; MSD can only be used when the "standard" TFS MF of .00225 is used.
If you're comfortable with the discount from sticker, everything else looks to be good.
FYI, that $1850 you are rolling into the new lease is costing you just over $50/mo on the payment. Any reason why you can't wait until the existing lease is up?
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2018 XLE AWD, 36 month, WA state:
Price: $40,624
Pulse: 299
MF: .001
Residual: 27,056 (67% ?)
Allowed miles/year: 12,000
Acq fee: 650
Govt fees: 610.5
Taxes: 1957.76
Doc fee: 150
Gap prem: 895
Monthly: $449.7
Due at signing: $3800
I would be ending my current lease on my 2016 Highlander Limited 2.5 months ahead of time. Also, on my request, they will add the rear parking assist sonar system, which is normally only included in the Limited version, which is what adds $800 to the $3000 down payment.
Is this a good deal?
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I'm pretty sure that WA taxes the monthly payment.
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65% residual for 36/12
Adding extras on a lease just kills the payment, because those extras aren't residualized.
Noticed that you were paying $895 for GAP insurance on the first quote, but no GAP on this one?
$4581 due at signing?
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.00100 MF
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We don't have their numbers, but the ones we've seen haven't been very good.
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It's really hard to say. We have no visibility into any of the numbers used by SETF; they could be regional within the region (that is. FL could be different from GA, etc.).
But - .00004 difference in MF is a miniscule amount on the payment.
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You can negotiate money factor if it's been marked up. Of course, if you don't know the base money factor that doesn't help.
Yes, NC charges tax on the full price, but it's still only 3%, right?
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But - .00004 difference in MF is a miniscule amount on the payment.
Thank you. I meant can the MF be negotiated or do you only negotiate sales price? I am getting higher quotes than orher people on this forum and I wonder if I can do anything about it or if it is just unfortunate the region I am in. Also, the tax is calculated on the entire sales price in my state instead if just on the monthly payments. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
You can negotiate money factor if it's been marked up. Of course, if you don't know the base money factor that doesn't help.
Yes, NC charges tax on the full price, but it's still only 3%, right?
I don't know the base MF. How do I find that out? More than one dealership gave me that MF if that means anything. I am un GA so the tax is actually 7%!!
Just wait until the first of the year. At that point, GA will only tax the lease payment.
Can't help you with SETF information, because we don't have it.
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MSRP: $ 42,706
Selling Price: $39,556
RV: $27,758.90
MF: 0.0010
Monthly pmt: $395
cash down: $ 0
due at signing: $2,533 ($395 1st month pmt; $64 Registration fees; $659 acquisition fee; $75 doc fee; $12.50 tire fee; $1,326 upfront taxes; $10 DMV inspection fee)
Now, while this seems like a good deal, I think I missed getting credit for what I believe was positive lease equity on the 2015 Highlander I'm turning over (the maturity date is 12/23/2018 but I've completed all payments; RV on this lease is $25,259; KBB for this car in good condition is $26,533)
I have not returned 2015 Highlander yet - is it worth buying it and selling it back to the dealer at this point?
Since dealership will be making money by me simply turning over car to them (never mind them reselling the car for a profit), should I expect them to absolve me of all excessive wear? (there's a dent that resulted in chipped paint and minor scratches in other parts of vehicle)
Thankd for any feedback!
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Just turn it in.
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Thank You
62% (LE Plus) or 63% (XLE) and .00225
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I wouldn't say that's your best approach. As my co-host noted, you could trade it in and, if the trade value is higher than the buyout price, get the equity that way.
If you buy it, the sales tax you pay will eat into any equity you may have.
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So since I signed the new lease already without having them include any trade-in value of my current leased car on the new lease contract, my best bet is to just return the car to them requesting they assume cost of excessive wear and tear. Could my leverage be that if they don't do that, then I'll return the car to a different dealership and then they'll lose any profit they'll make on this car?
So since I signed the new lease already without having them include any trade-in value of my current leased car on the new lease contract, my best bet is to just return the car to them requesting they assume cost of excessive wear and tear. Could my leverage be that if they don't do that, then I'll return the car to a different dealership and then they'll lose any profit they'll make on this car?
You don't have any leverage.
Call the dealership, and tell them you are hoping to realize some equity, and ask them if there is anything you can do.
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Don't have your region, yet
But, .00100 MF
and no new incentives, looks likely
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Don't have your region, yet
But, .00100 MF
and no new incentives, looks likely
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Add 6% to residual for 24/12
No lease cash
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MSRP - 38978
Dealer said sales price of 35,800 with 1,000 down has a monthly payment of $377 + tax
MF .001
Why do I get $333 + tax?
Are they manipulating the numbers?
With the MSRP and selling price provided (less $1000), I too get $333/mo.
Ask the dealer what adjusted cap cost they are using for their payment quote, and what they've added to the selling price to get there.
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2018 Highlander XLE, AWD 12K/36 months
MF = .00140
MSRP = $42,099
RF = 65%
Adj Cap = $38,829
Cash down = $2,000
Monthly Payment = $411
It seems the MF may be inflated based on other discussions here of it being .00100. Thanks for any advice!