Seems everybody is asking for 36 mo numbers. I'm just curious what the 24 mo numbers looks like in NJ. Does $6500 lease cash apply to both RWD and AWD?
GT1 RWD 24/12 GT1 AWD 24/12
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Seems everybody is asking for 36 mo numbers. I'm just curious what the 24 mo numbers looks like in NJ. Does $6500 lease cash apply to both RWD and AWD?
The 36 would be pretty good if only they'd offer a better MF. At roughly 1.9% APR, I'm calculating right at about $450/mo sign and drive on a $44,495 MSRP (GT1 RWD).
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The 36 would be pretty good if only they'd offer a better MF. At roughly 1.9% APR, I'm calculating right at about $450/mo sign and drive on a $44,495 MSRP (GT1 RWD).
I think the thinking goes like this:
Most people don't understand money factor or residual, so let's make those onerous. They do understand cash, so we'll make the lease term terrible, then mitigate with a large amount of lease cash. It'll still be crappy, but they'll think it's a good deal.
Thanks Michaell! Am I seeing things correctly in that there’s also an additional $1,000 bonus cash on all AWD models as well?
That appears to be correct
Is this only true if you keep the lease for 36 months or can you buy out the lease early and still get this additional $1000? I read elsewhere that this is only if you keep the lease for 36 months but I havent been able to verify that. Thanks!
Thanks Michaell! Am I seeing things correctly in that there’s also an additional $1,000 bonus cash on all AWD models as well?
That appears to be correct
Is this only true if you keep the lease for 36 months or can you buy out the lease early and still get this additional $1000? I read elsewhere that this is only if you keep the lease for 36 months but I havent been able to verify that. Thanks!
Thanks Michaell! Am I seeing things correctly in that there’s also an additional $1,000 bonus cash on all AWD models as well?
That appears to be correct
Is this only true if you keep the lease for 36 months or can you buy out the lease early and still get this additional $1000? I read elsewhere that this is only if you keep the lease for 36 months but I havent been able to verify that. Thanks!
We don't have the details of the program behind the $1000.
Why would you want to exit your lease early? That's likely to cost you way more than $1000.
Is this only true if you keep the lease for 36 months or can you buy out the lease early and still get this additional $1000? I read elsewhere that this is only if you keep the lease for 36 months but I havent been able to verify that. Thanks!
We don't have the details of the program behind the $1000.
Why would you want to exit your lease early? That's likely to cost you way more than $1000.
If you're planning on buying the car then right now the best deal on the Stinger is to actually lease it, get the lease cash, and buy it out immediately (either using a 3rd party auto loan or if you have the cash with cash). You pay a little in fees but since the lease cash is so high right now that ends up being the best deal if you want to purchase the car. The $1000 would make it an even better deal but it is not clear if that is only for people who maintain the full lease term.
Also, have you noticed any trends of lease deals getting better or worse as the year progresses? I'm hoping to get a better deal towards the end of the year.
Also, have you noticed any trends of lease deals getting better or worse as the year progresses? I'm hoping to get a better deal towards the end of the year.
Thanks,
-Ernesto
.00228 and 52% $5500 lease cash
No insight on what the future holds, but the MF, residual and lease cash will fluctuate to achieve a certain payment. Unless Kia thinks they need to improve the numbers to move more inventory.
Hello can you provide the RV and MF and incentives for GT AWD with Advanced Driver Assistance System Pkg; Puddle Lights and Remote Push Start 36/15 & 36/12 Zip: 63011 Thanks!!
Hello can you provide the RV and MF and incentives for GT AWD with Advanced Driver Assistance System Pkg; Puddle Lights and Remote Push Start 36/15 & 36/12 Zip: 63011 Thanks!!
Sale price $37,245 rebates $7,600 residual is 49% ($19,791) money factor is .00229
$0 down Sign and Drive - $422/mo. WEC (with estimated credit) $1,000 down - $392/mo. WEC $2,000 down - $362/mo. WEC
Thoughts?
I've ask for details of the rebates and told them to trim any i wouldn't qualify for and i was told that "everyone qualifies for that $7600". I also asked for the total purchase price (MSRP-DISCOUNT-REBATE) for some clarity. There is also 2 more instate dealerships within 20-25 minutes of my home, so I'm hoping to get the best deal from one and shop it to the rest.............
Sale price $37,245 rebates $7,600 residual is 49% ($19,791) money factor is .00229
$0 down Sign and Drive - $422/mo. WEC (with estimated credit) $1,000 down - $392/mo. WEC $2,000 down - $362/mo. WEC
Thoughts?
I've ask for details of the rebates and told them to trim any i wouldn't qualify for and i was told that "everyone qualifies for that $7600". I also asked for the total purchase price (MSRP-DISCOUNT-REBATE) for some clarity. There is also 2 more instate dealerships within 20-25 minutes of my home, so I'm hoping to get the best deal from one and shop it to the rest.............
What is the MSRP? Is that 36/10? If so, I agree with the numbers. Yes, $7600 lease cash is for everyone.
MSRP is $41,189 discount $3,944 rebate $7,600 final "sale" price is $29,645
I've gotten 3 different MSRPs for the same vehicle $42,305.00, $41,189 $40,255.00 I assume this is normal practice to mess with MSRPs so they manipulate the discounts and rebate to make you think you're getting a great deal?
MSRP is $41,189 discount $3,944 rebate $7,600 final "sale" price is $29,645
I've gotten 3 different MSRPs for the same vehicle $42,305.00, $41,189 $40,255.00 I assume this is normal practice to mess with MSRPs so they manipulate the discounts and rebate to make you think you're getting a great deal?
There is only one MSRP. It's the bottom line of the government required window sticker. If the residual amount given above is correct, then the the MSRP is $40,390.
Assuming that is the MSRP, I get $387/mo, with first payment and all fees upfront. That's not far off their quote, but the discount looks smaller, once you see the real MSRP.
It's not a bad deal, compared to some of the lease quotes we see in this discussion. No sales tax, right?
Correct no sales Tax. I was hoping for a zero down sign and Drive, what do you think the monthly will change to from there based on that? thanks again for following up!
Correct no sales Tax. I was hoping for a zero down sign and Drive, what do you think the monthly will change to from there based on that? thanks again for following up!
I just met with a Kia dealer in GA for a base model GT. What you gave me matched up with what they were using: .00228 MF and 51% residual. $5500 lease cash.
However, after calculating the lease in front of the salesman, utilizing their discount + the lease cash and taking into account their doc fee and supposed Kia lease fee (around $700), and then the 7% GA tax per monthly payment, I came up with $447 w/0 money down, while they came back to me again with $517 for 0 money down. I said, "the numbers are right here, I double-checked them in front of you, you have confirmed the MF and residual, yet you are $70 higher than me." And they just kept pointing to the official Kia lease template on the screen and saying, "this is what Kia's system came up with." So it seems to me, dealers can maintain the "mystery factor" and charge whatever they want to charge, regardless of the official MF and residual. Any thoughts?
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GT1 AWD - .00233 and 52%; $6500 lease cash
GT2 - .00229 and 51%; $7900 lease cash
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GT1 AWD - .00233 and 51%; $6500 lease cash
GT2 AWD - .00229 and 50%; $7900 lease cash
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GT1 RWD 24/12
GT1 AWD 24/12
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'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Most people don't understand money factor or residual, so let's make those onerous.
They do understand cash, so we'll make the lease term terrible, then mitigate with a large amount of lease cash. It'll still be crappy, but they'll think it's a good deal.
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What are the current numbers for a GT AWD and GT1 AWD 36/12 in 70003.
Thanks!
GT1: .00233 MF and 51% residual. $6500 lease cash
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GT2 RWD 36 mo
GT2 AWD 36 mo
If you still have the numbers from June for comparison those would be appreciated also, ty
RWD: .00230 MF and 50% residual
$7600 lease cash
AWD: .00229 MF and 50% residual
$7900 lease cash
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What would be the residual, mf, incentives on:
GT RWD 48/10
GT RWD 36/10
Thanks for all your help!
.00244 and 47%; $4200 lease cash
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ZIP: 37922
All 36/15
GT AWD
GT1 AWD
GT2 AWD
Thank you!
GT1 AWD - .00233 and 49%; $6500 lease cash
GT2 AWD - .00229 and 48%; $7900 lease cash
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Can I get numbers for 36 month/10K
Zip code: 48193
Kia Stinger GT2 AWD/GT1 AWD
Any Incentives?
GT2 AWD - .00229 and 51%; $7900 lease cash
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
GT/GT1 RWD
Both 36/15
ZIP: 37922
Thank you!
GT1 - .00233 and 48%; $6600 lease cash
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Why would you want to exit your lease early? That's likely to cost you way more than $1000.
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Can I have the numbers for the following:
Stinger GT RWD 36/10 - 33428
Also, have you noticed any trends of lease deals getting better or worse as the year progresses? I'm hoping to get a better deal towards the end of the year.
Thanks,
-Ernesto
$5500 lease cash
No insight on what the future holds, but the MF, residual and lease cash will fluctuate to achieve a certain payment. Unless Kia thinks they need to improve the numbers to move more inventory.
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36/12 , base rwd & awd, premium awd, gt1 rwd, gt2 awd
zip 48362
Thanks much
Base RWD - .00228 and 49%; $6000 lease cash
Base AWD - .00231 and 49%; $6400
Prem AWD - .00229 and 48%; $7600
GT1 RWD - .00233 and 50%; $6600
GT2 AWD - .00229 and 50%; $7900
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GT2 AWD
36/15
&
36/12
Zip: 48183
Thank you
50%/48% residual
$7900 lease cash
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49%/51% residual
$5800 lease cash
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1) the Residual, MF, lease cash for Stinger GT w/Drive Wise package/LSD for 36/12
2) the Residual, MF, lease cash for Stinger Premium w/Drive Wise package for 36/12
3) the Residual, MF, lease cash for Stinger 2.0L w/Drive Wise package for 36/12
Thank you very much.
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2) .00228 MF and 48% residual. $7200 lease cash
3) .00228 MF and 49% residual. $6000 lease cash
Packages have no effect.
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2018 KIA STINGER PREMIUM AWD
Sale price $37,245
rebates $7,600
residual is 49% ($19,791)
money factor is .00229
$0 down Sign and Drive - $422/mo. WEC (with estimated credit)
$1,000 down - $392/mo. WEC
$2,000 down - $362/mo. WEC
Thoughts?
I've ask for details of the rebates and told them to trim any i wouldn't qualify for and i was told that
"everyone qualifies for that $7600". I also asked for the total purchase price (MSRP-DISCOUNT-REBATE) for some clarity. There is also 2 more instate dealerships within 20-25 minutes of my home, so I'm hoping to get the best deal from one and shop it to the rest.............
Is that 36/10?
If so, I agree with the numbers.
Yes, $7600 lease cash is for everyone.
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I've gotten 3 different MSRPs for the same vehicle $42,305.00, $41,189 $40,255.00 I assume this is normal practice to mess with MSRPs so they manipulate the discounts and rebate to make you think you're getting a great deal?
If the residual amount given above is correct, then the the MSRP is $40,390.
Assuming that is the MSRP, I get $387/mo, with first payment and all fees upfront.
That's not far off their quote, but the discount looks smaller, once you see the real MSRP.
It's not a bad deal, compared to some of the lease quotes we see in this discussion.
No sales tax, right?
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However, after calculating the lease in front of the salesman, utilizing their discount + the lease cash and taking into account their doc fee and supposed Kia lease fee (around $700), and then the 7% GA tax per monthly payment, I came up with $447 w/0 money down, while they came back to me again with $517 for 0 money down. I said, "the numbers are right here, I double-checked them in front of you, you have confirmed the MF and residual, yet you are $70 higher than me." And they just kept pointing to the official Kia lease template on the screen and saying, "this is what Kia's system came up with." So it seems to me, dealers can maintain the "mystery factor" and charge whatever they want to charge, regardless of the official MF and residual. Any thoughts?