Requesting MF/RV%/Incentives for 2020 Pilot 8 seat 2WD only in zip 94022: EX-L for 15k/36mo EX-L w/Nav & RES for 15k/36mo Touring for 15k/36mo If you can provide info on how those would convert down to a 36/12 as well that would be great. Thanks!
Would you be able to provide Residual and MF for a 36/12 Lease on a 2020 Pilot EX-L AWD in 06851.Also any loyalty, current owner of a 2013 Highlander and 2017 Acura.
Would you be able to provide Residual and MF for a 36/12 Lease on a 2020 Pilot EX-L AWD in 06851.Also any loyalty, current owner of a 2013 Highlander and 2017 Acura.
National Lease Deals for 2020 Pilot EX-L with AWD and Navigation is $369 monthly for 12 k miles , 36 months $2800 down . MF is .000142 and Residual is 62 percent . Fees , Tax , Destination are extra . MSRP is $40, 275 . Seems like a decent offer but , fees , etc can add another $1000 or so to the deal . I know your advice is to pay 1 month down plus Tax , etc .Question is this Advertised deal a good starting point to negotiate ? I do know Pilot sales have tumbled by over 40 percent but , is this 1 reason why their Lease offers sound pretty good . I’m in 29910 . I had thought Pilot sales might have been affected by the Passport introduction ? But , my wife and I have never seen a Passport on the Road this year and we travel a lot between SC and NY . Your thoughts on all of this ? I haven’t gone into a Honda Dealer yet but , it seems Pilot might be a good lease ? Thanks , Savannah Banana .
National Lease Deals for 2020 Pilot EX-L with AWD and Navigation is $369 monthly for 12 k miles , 36 months $2800 down . MF is .000142 and Residual is 62 percent . Fees , Tax , Destination are extra . MSRP is $40, 275 . Seems like a decent offer but , fees , etc can add another $1000 or so to the deal . I know your advice is to pay 1 month down plus Tax , etc .Question is this Advertised deal a good starting point to negotiate ? I do know Pilot sales have tumbled by over 40 percent but , is this 1 reason why their Lease offers sound pretty good . I’m in 29910 . I had thought Pilot sales might have been affected by the Passport introduction ? But , my wife and I have never seen a Passport on the Road this year and we travel a lot between SC and NY . Your thoughts on all of this ? I haven’t gone into a Honda Dealer yet but , it seems Pilot might be a good lease ? Thanks , Savannah Banana .
We do recommend you skip the down payment and only pay first payment and registration costs at signing.
You may also be able to negotaite a lower selling price than the ad suggests.
Passport, I think, will appeal to a different demographic than the Pilot.
I have what appears to be a great deal, but the financing numbers don't look right. I was wondering if you could help me get things straight.
I am looking to lease a 2020 Pilot EX-L 2WD. MSRP is listed as $37,860 + $1,095 dest = $38,955. MF is .00142 and Residual is 62%. I have negotiated a price of $34,356, which seems like a great deal (invoice is $34,607). Gov't fees are $469.06, doc fee is $85, and lease acquisition fee is $595. No other costs on the sheet they gave me.
If I paid $0 out the door and rolled all of these costs into the lease, my math says that the depreciation cost should be ($35,505.06 - $24,152.10)/36 = $315.36 and the finance cost should be ($35,505.06 + $24,152.10)*.00142 = $84.71, for a total of $400.07. I'm purposely omitting the tax for sake of discussion. But somehow the dealer came up with me paying $426/mo with me putting $827 down.
Is my math wrong, or is the dealer doing something incorrect?
I have what appears to be a great deal, but the financing numbers don't look right. I was wondering if you could help me get things straight.
I am looking to lease a 2020 Pilot EX-L 2WD. MSRP is listed as $37,860 + $1,095 dest = $38,955. MF is .00142 and Residual is 62%. I have negotiated a price of $34,356, which seems like a great deal (invoice is $34,607). Gov't fees are $469.06, doc fee is $85, and lease acquisition fee is $595. No other costs on the sheet they gave me.
If I paid $0 out the door and rolled all of these costs into the lease, my math says that the depreciation cost should be ($35,505.06 - $24,152.10)/36 = $315.36 and the finance cost should be ($35,505.06 + $24,152.10)*.00142 = $84.71, for a total of $400.07. I'm purposely omitting the tax for sake of discussion. But somehow the dealer came up with me paying $426/mo with me putting $827 down.
Is my math wrong, or is the dealer doing something incorrect?
California? If we assume 9% sales tax, then your calculated payment is about $436/mo, with $436 Due at Signing. (Your calculations didn't include rolling in the first payment, as well) That seems very, very close to the dealer's $426/mo (including tax?) with $827 Due at Signing.
I have what appears to be a great deal, but the financing numbers don't look right. I was wondering if you could help me get things straight.
I am looking to lease a 2020 Pilot EX-L 2WD. MSRP is listed as $37,860 + $1,095 dest = $38,955. MF is .00142 and Residual is 62%. I have negotiated a price of $34,356, which seems like a great deal (invoice is $34,607). Gov't fees are $469.06, doc fee is $85, and lease acquisition fee is $595. No other costs on the sheet they gave me.
If I paid $0 out the door and rolled all of these costs into the lease, my math says that the depreciation cost should be ($35,505.06 - $24,152.10)/36 = $315.36 and the finance cost should be ($35,505.06 + $24,152.10)*.00142 = $84.71, for a total of $400.07. I'm purposely omitting the tax for sake of discussion. But somehow the dealer came up with me paying $426/mo with me putting $827 down.
Is my math wrong, or is the dealer doing something incorrect?
California? If we assume 9% sales tax, then your calculated payment is about $436/mo, with $436 Due at Signing. (Your calculations didn't include rolling in the first payment, as well) That seems very, very close to the dealer's $426/mo (including tax?) with $827 Due at Signing.
Yes California, 91301. I stopped by the dealer at lunch today and it turned out to be a miscommunication - they had included tax in their numbers but didn't state that, which lead me to believe that we were off by a bunch. We are on the same page. Thanks!
I am in NYC. 3 days ago I got a Honda Pilot 2020 touring 7 seat lease (36mo/10k mile). My friend told me I overpaid 4-6k, now I can't even sleep at night. Can you guys comment on how much you think I overpaid? Thanks
I have attached a copy of my lease agreement so you can see the whole picture. I thought as long as I can get down payment+monthly payment+residual to around $46k, it will be a good deal. I use 46k because MSRP is around 46K and figure there are tax and fee needed so push all that within 46k should a good deal. Afterward, I realized if I want to keep the car I still have to pay tax on residual and other fees.
Honda Pilot 2020 touring 7 seats, MSRP is 44,920 with destination fee of 1,095, total 46,015. True car shows the average market price is 42,391.
My friend got a 2020 Odyssey MSRP 39,055 with extra package 1,995, total 41,447 for 37K out the door. I know I am not comparing same car but talking about not paying the MSRP, wow what a difference.
two pictures attached. Any comment welcome, thanks.
I am in NYC. 3 days ago I got a Honda Pilot 2020 touring 7 seat lease (36mo/10k mile). My friend told me I overpaid 4-6k, now I can't even sleep at night. Can you guys comment on how much you think I overpaid? Thanks
I have attached a copy of my lease agreement so you can see the whole picture. I thought as long as I can get down payment+monthly payment+residual to around $46k, it will be a good deal. I use 46k because MSRP is around 46K and figure there are tax and fee needed so push all that within 46k should a good deal. Afterward, I realized if I want to keep the car I still have to pay tax on residual and other fees.
Honda Pilot 2020 touring 7 seats, MSRP is 44,920 with destination fee of 1,095, total 46,015. True car shows the average market price is 42,391.
My friend got a 2020 Odyssey MSRP 39,055 with extra package 1,995, total 41,447 for 37K out the door. I know I am not comparing same car but talking about not paying the MSRP, wow what a difference.
two pictures attached. Any comment welcome, thanks.
I am in NYC. 3 days ago I got a Honda Pilot 2020 touring 7 seat lease (36mo/10k mile). My friend told me I overpaid 4-6k, now I can't even sleep at night. Can you guys comment on how much you think I overpaid? Thanks
I have attached a copy of my lease agreement so you can see the whole picture. I thought as long as I can get down payment+monthly payment+residual to around $46k, it will be a good deal. I use 46k because MSRP is around 46K and figure there are tax and fee needed so push all that within 46k should a good deal. Afterward, I realized if I want to keep the car I still have to pay tax on residual and other fees.
Honda Pilot 2020 touring 7 seats, MSRP is 44,920 with destination fee of 1,095, total 46,015. True car shows the average market price is 42,391.
My friend got a 2020 Odyssey MSRP 39,055 with extra package 1,995, total 41,447 for 37K out the door. I know I am not comparing same car but talking about not paying the MSRP, wow what a difference.
two pictures attached. Any comment welcome, thanks.
The Gross Cap Cost is $40,907, or $6K off MSRP.
I think you did fine.
Congrats, and enjoy the new car.
Can you please explain or direct me to an article on why simply looking at gross cap cost can determine whether or a deal is good or bad? If I use true car price of 42,391 and add tax and fee, I don't think I will go over $44,000. Therefore, I must overpaid at least $2000.
I am in NYC. 3 days ago I got a Honda Pilot 2020 touring 7 seat lease (36mo/10k mile). My friend told me I overpaid 4-6k, now I can't even sleep at night. Can you guys comment on how much you think I overpaid? Thanks
I have attached a copy of my lease agreement so you can see the whole picture. I thought as long as I can get down payment+monthly payment+residual to around $46k, it will be a good deal. I use 46k because MSRP is around 46K and figure there are tax and fee needed so push all that within 46k should a good deal. Afterward, I realized if I want to keep the car I still have to pay tax on residual and other fees.
Honda Pilot 2020 touring 7 seats, MSRP is 44,920 with destination fee of 1,095, total 46,015. True car shows the average market price is 42,391.
My friend got a 2020 Odyssey MSRP 39,055 with extra package 1,995, total 41,447 for 37K out the door. I know I am not comparing same car but talking about not paying the MSRP, wow what a difference.
two pictures attached. Any comment welcome, thanks.
The Gross Cap Cost is $40,907, or $6K off MSRP.
I think you did fine.
Congrats, and enjoy the new car.
Can you please explain or direct me to an article on why simply looking at gross cap cost can determine whether or a deal is good or bad? If I use true car price of 42,391 and add tax and fee, I don't think I will go over $44,000. Therefore, I must overpaid at least $2000.
Thanks
I wasn't looking at the TrueCar price, but the number from the contract.
And, the price is only one part of the deal - the MF, residual and incentives are also important.
Could the deal have been better? Probably. Is it an awful deal? No.
And, since you've signed and taken delivery, there isn't much you can do at this point, anyway.
State of AZ- 2020 Pilot Touring and Elite 7 seat Curious on the MF and Residual for a 36/12 lease on a 2020 Pilot- Touring and Elite, including any incentives going on. Thx in advance!
State of AZ- 2020 Pilot Touring and Elite 7 seat Curious on the MF and Residual for a 36/12 lease on a 2020 Pilot- Touring and Elite, including any incentives going on. Thx in advance!
.00142 and 61% (Touring) or 60% (Elite) $1000 incentives
I just received a quote for a 2020 Pilot Touring AWD 8-seater lease. (I've attached a pic)
In an email they said: MSRP $45,715 Selling price: $39,817 Lease: 39 Month/12k $1500 Rebate $700 out of pocket $444 monthly (They also said something like $470 for 36mo.)
**Actually I just noticed they quoted me $444 for 39mo deal on the email link to the actual deal, it's $433 for 36mo (as in the photo)!!
According to my leasematic app, after I plug in all the #'s it comes out to: (.00142 MF / 61 residual / 8.875 sales tax) $383.75 monthly (36 mo) $1691.51 das
It looks like they're moving the DAS #'s around but (I'm not mathematician) it seems like they're doing this to add to the monthly.
Do I just respond w/the MF and residual #'s and say I know they can come down on the price?
I just received a quote for a 2020 Pilot Touring AWD 8-seater lease. (I've attached a pic)
In an email they said: MSRP $45,715 Selling price: $39,817 Lease: 39 Month/12k $1500 Rebate $700 out of pocket $444 monthly (They also said something like $470 for 36mo.)
**Actually I just noticed they quoted me $444 for 39mo deal on the email link to the actual deal, it's $433 for 36mo (as in the photo)!!
According to my leasematic app, after I plug in all the #'s it comes out to: (.00142 MF / 61 residual / 8.875 sales tax) $383.75 monthly (36 mo) $1691.51 das
It looks like they're moving the DAS #'s around but (I'm not mathematician) it seems like they're doing this to add to the monthly.
Do I just respond w/the MF and residual #'s and say I know they can come down on the price?
(Sorry if this is not the place to ask this)
The on-line price might not necessarily be the same price they use for the lease. Did you add in the $595 acquisition fee?
Is the selling price before or after the rebate?
Those are all questions for the dealer. Once you have the answers, the math should become clear. Honda dealers can't alter the residual, or the money factor, if it is subvented. (assuming it is is Honda Finance lease)
I just received a quote for a 2020 Pilot Touring AWD 8-seater lease. (I've attached a pic)
In an email they said: MSRP $45,715 Selling price: $39,817 Lease: 39 Month/12k $1500 Rebate $700 out of pocket $444 monthly (They also said something like $470 for 36mo.)
**Actually I just noticed they quoted me $444 for 39mo deal on the email link to the actual deal, it's $433 for 36mo (as in the photo)!!
According to my leasematic app, after I plug in all the #'s it comes out to: (.00142 MF / 61 residual / 8.875 sales tax) $383.75 monthly (36 mo) $1691.51 das
It looks like they're moving the DAS #'s around but (I'm not mathematician) it seems like they're doing this to add to the monthly.
Do I just respond w/the MF and residual #'s and say I know they can come down on the price?
(Sorry if this is not the place to ask this)
The on-line price might not necessarily be the same price they use for the lease. Did you add in the $595 acquisition fee?
Is the selling price before or after the rebate?
Those are all questions for the dealer. Once you have the answers, the math should become clear. Honda dealers can't alter the residual, or the money factor, if it is subvented. (assuming it is is Honda Finance lease)
Ah ok thanks. So should I say to them, "I know the MF is x and Residual is Y. What are all the itemized costs that are factored in to come up with this price?"
I just received a quote for a 2020 Pilot Touring AWD 8-seater lease. (I've attached a pic)
In an email they said: MSRP $45,715 Selling price: $39,817 Lease: 39 Month/12k $1500 Rebate $700 out of pocket $444 monthly (They also said something like $470 for 36mo.)
**Actually I just noticed they quoted me $444 for 39mo deal on the email link to the actual deal, it's $433 for 36mo (as in the photo)!!
According to my leasematic app, after I plug in all the #'s it comes out to: (.00142 MF / 61 residual / 8.875 sales tax) $383.75 monthly (36 mo) $1691.51 das
It looks like they're moving the DAS #'s around but (I'm not mathematician) it seems like they're doing this to add to the monthly.
Do I just respond w/the MF and residual #'s and say I know they can come down on the price?
(Sorry if this is not the place to ask this)
The on-line price might not necessarily be the same price they use for the lease. Did you add in the $595 acquisition fee?
Is the selling price before or after the rebate?
Those are all questions for the dealer. Once you have the answers, the math should become clear. Honda dealers can't alter the residual, or the money factor, if it is subvented. (assuming it is is Honda Finance lease)
Ah ok thanks. So should I say to them, "I know the MF is x and Residual is Y. What are all the itemized costs that are factored in to come up with this price?"
Ask them for the lease worksheet or a screenshot of the deal on the computer. You don't have to tell them you know anything.
Looking for the MF, RV, and incentives for a 36/12(15) lease on a 2020 Pilot Touring / Elite / Black in zip 02116. Currently leasing 2016 Pilot Touring.
Looking for the MF, RV, and incentives for a 36/12(15) lease on a 2020 Pilot Touring / Elite / Black in zip 02116. Currently leasing 2016 Pilot Touring.
Looking for the MF, RV, and incentives for a 36/12(15) lease on a 2020 Pilot Touring / Elite / Black in zip 02116. Currently leasing 2016 Pilot Touring.
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. MF is .000142 and Residual is 62 percent . Fees , Tax , Destination are extra . MSRP is $40, 275 . Seems like a decent offer but , fees , etc can add another $1000 or so to the deal . I know your advice is to pay 1 month down plus Tax , etc .Question is this Advertised deal a good starting point to negotiate ? I do know Pilot sales have tumbled by over 40 percent but , is this 1 reason why their Lease offers sound pretty good . I’m in 29910 . I had thought Pilot sales might have been affected by the Passport introduction ? But , my wife and I have never seen a Passport on the Road this year and we travel a lot between SC and NY . Your thoughts on all of this ? I haven’t gone into a Honda Dealer yet but , it seems Pilot might be a good lease ? Thanks , Savannah Banana .
You may also be able to negotaite a lower selling price than the ad suggests.
Passport, I think, will appeal to a different demographic than the Pilot.
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Would a good lease therefore be that advertised monthly but negotiate to only pay first payment and registration costs at signing?
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I am looking to lease a 2020 Pilot EX-L 2WD. MSRP is listed as $37,860 + $1,095 dest = $38,955. MF is .00142 and Residual is 62%. I have negotiated a price of $34,356, which seems like a great deal (invoice is $34,607). Gov't fees are $469.06, doc fee is $85, and lease acquisition fee is $595. No other costs on the sheet they gave me.
If I paid $0 out the door and rolled all of these costs into the lease, my math says that the depreciation cost should be ($35,505.06 - $24,152.10)/36 = $315.36 and the finance cost should be ($35,505.06 + $24,152.10)*.00142 = $84.71, for a total of $400.07. I'm purposely omitting the tax for sake of discussion. But somehow the dealer came up with me paying $426/mo with me putting $827 down.
Is my math wrong, or is the dealer doing something incorrect?
Term: 36/12k
zip: 75234
Thanks!
Term: 36/15k
zip: 60563
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If we assume 9% sales tax, then your calculated payment is about $436/mo, with $436 Due at Signing.
(Your calculations didn't include rolling in the first payment, as well)
That seems very, very close to the dealer's $426/mo (including tax?) with $827 Due at Signing.
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61%/62% residual for EX/EXL
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2020 Pilot EX-L AWD 36/12, 60004
MSRP $40,955, dealer discounting to $35,862.
Sales tax estimate: $3013.16
Doc: $179.81
Title: $150
Registration: $101
Electronic Filing: $25
Other(?!): $15
$441 payment, $441 cash due at signing
.00142 and 62%
$1000 incentive (part of the discount you are seeing)
Where is the acquisition fee on that quote?
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I have attached a copy of my lease agreement so you can see the whole picture.
I thought as long as I can get down payment+monthly payment+residual to around $46k, it will be a good deal.
I use 46k because MSRP is around 46K and figure there are tax and fee needed so push all that within 46k should a good deal. Afterward, I realized if I want to keep the car I still have to pay tax on residual and other fees.
Honda Pilot 2020 touring 7 seats, MSRP is 44,920 with destination fee of 1,095, total 46,015.
True car shows the average market price is 42,391.
My friend got a 2020 Odyssey MSRP 39,055 with extra package 1,995, total 41,447 for 37K out the door.
I know I am not comparing same car but talking about not paying the MSRP, wow what a difference.
two pictures attached. Any comment welcome, thanks.
But, with only the first payment due at signing, that looks like a decent deal, relative to MSRP.
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I think you did fine.
Congrats, and enjoy the new car.
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Thank you!
If I use true car price of 42,391 and add tax and fee, I don't think I will go over $44,000.
Therefore, I must overpaid at least $2000.
Thanks
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And, the price is only one part of the deal - the MF, residual and incentives are also important.
Could the deal have been better? Probably. Is it an awful deal? No.
And, since you've signed and taken delivery, there isn't much you can do at this point, anyway.
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Curious on the MF and Residual for a 36/12 lease on a 2020 Pilot- Touring and Elite, including any incentives going on. Thx in advance!
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In an email they said:
MSRP $45,715
Selling price: $39,817
Lease: 39 Month/12k
$1500 Rebate
$700 out of pocket
$444 monthly
(They also said something like $470 for 36mo.)
**Actually I just noticed they quoted me $444 for 39mo deal on the email link to the actual deal, it's $433 for 36mo (as in the photo)!!
According to my leasematic app, after I plug in all the #'s it comes out to:
(.00142 MF / 61 residual / 8.875 sales tax)
$383.75 monthly (36 mo)
$1691.51 das
It looks like they're moving the DAS #'s around but (I'm not mathematician) it seems like they're doing this to add to the monthly.
Do I just respond w/the MF and residual #'s and say I know they can come down on the price?
(Sorry if this is not the place to ask this)
Did you add in the $595 acquisition fee?
Is the selling price before or after the rebate?
Those are all questions for the dealer. Once you have the answers, the math should become clear.
Honda dealers can't alter the residual, or the money factor, if it is subvented. (assuming it is is Honda Finance lease)
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Looking for the MF, RV, and incentives for a 36/12(15) lease on a 2020 Pilot Touring / Elite / Black in zip 02116. Currently leasing 2016 Pilot Touring.
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.00142 MF
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$1000 incentive
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How do these numbers change (if they do) for 02919?