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You can check the accessory prices here:
http://www.handa-accessories.com/accord03.html
to see how bad or good you did on those. Keep in mind the spoiler requires drilling the trunk lid and the fog installs cutting the front fascia of the car - so while the parts might be cheaper mail order, having to install these yourself is not for the faint of heart. From you list it looks like about $820 + shipping worth of stuff - so not too bad for $1,400 including install and sales tax. You didn't want to drill holes in your new trunk yourself anyway, did you?
Congrats on the new car!
Dennis
What do you think of this deal for a 2005 LX w/auto tranny...
$18059.00 + 7.75% tax (chicago taxes whew!) + 15.00 county fee + 80.00 plate trans + 55.29 doc fee = 19609.00 OTD
is this to much, should I be aiming lower....???
The Chicago sales tax hike went into effect today, so it is 9% now instead of the 8.75%.
I stopped by and test drove an Accord LX Auto 4Dr at Carr's today, it was great. But the salesman said he will not give me a price until I am ready to buy. So I walked out. I asked him about the July 18th deal and he said he knew nothing about it.
Got a quote from a Schaumburg dealer (hint, hint) for 18059 incl dest.
He says there is a county fee of $15.00 + 7.75% tax.
Do I have to pay the additional tax up to 9% if I buy in the burbs, but register the car in chicago...or is it the personal use tax thingy...
Taxes confuse the heck out of me.
Dennis
That is why sometimes you hear "Residency rules apply" in the commercial. That is mostly because they do not want somebody living in Kentucky and grab a deal that is intended for buyers in the "Chicagoland Area" (probably meaning Chicago, its suburbs and northern Indiana). I am sure the same rule applies for the tax rate too.
dwynne: When you said "I think $18,000 to $18,200 is the magic price for the LX w/auto. If you are in that range for the car including destination and dealer/doc fees you should have a great deal.", you meant everyhting except the tax should total $18,000 to $18,200, is that right?
$55.39 doc
515.00 dest fee
15.00 county fee
80.00 title/plate transfer
total of $150.39, adding that to base of 18059.00=18,209.00 before tax.
I more on the 18200 end, maybe they can come down a wee bit?
in Anaheim, CA. From my experience, Hardin was easily the most pressure free
dealership. Bought the car for $21,800 OTD plus an additional 7yr/100K/0 Deductible warranty for $885.
So total was $22,685.
I really like the car so far. I'm 27 yrs old & leaving a leased Acura RSX (which I leased when I was 23). The RSX was nice, but a harsh ride at times & the insurance was much higher. Why an Accord sedan? Well, an overall great vehicle, 2 rear doors are nice for passenger entry, a great deal on it, plus a few definite steps up, in my opinion, in terms of comfort & luxury from what I was driving. I don't really care about the "Acura" prestige and I won't miss the "snootyness" of the Acura dealer & the unnecessary high insurance. Besides, I'm out of the phase where I needed a little 2 door coupe.
PS: I thought it was funny that several people were replying to my original message but their replies had nothing to do w/ my purchase...they were chatting w/ you!!
Some dealers (shady) will give online, e-mail, or phone quotes that do not include the destination charge (which everyone has to pay). Where the dealer or "doc" fees are not regulated, they can range from $0 to $400 or more and shady dealers will not give those out on quotes unless you ask for them.
So when you compare price quotes you ask for the price for the car including destination and any dealer or "doc" fees. It is assumed that all the other fees are legit and would be the same no matter which dealer in your area you purchase from. Also with the price w/dest and doc you can compare VS dealers from any part of the country with similar numbers - knowing that your additional charges will be the same no matter where you get the car.
So if I post that I know of a dealer that will sell you the car for $18,200 then you could go to that dealer and get the car for that price, plus whatever the local (to you) fees and taxes are. Same for your dealer, if he will sell to you for $18,000 including the dealer fees then someone could go to that dealer and give them a check and drive off with the same model car - then pay their local fees and taxes when they get home.
Dennis
Carrs Honda originally quoted 19,034.00...after I said thanks, but no thanks, the price magically changed to 18,300. I told him he was still higher and he asked what I was looking for...I said 18000 incld des/doc fee and he said he didn't think he could do it. So I said thanks. hmmm...called me back 10 seconds later leaving a message saying "we can do 18000".
Schaumburg Honda..I really like their internet guy and I think he may be the winner. He upfront disclosed the manf to dealer incentive without blinking an eye, upfront told me he would not negoiate his holdback (we'll see) and quoted me $18059.00 incld dest but not doc. I called him back to press the doc fee (which is important because living in chicago I'm going to get slammed with the 9% tax either way) I want to save every penny I can to offset some of this riduclous tax.
I'm going in to see him first, as I kinda got a good feel from him. I will let you know.
P.S. Buying outside of Chicago at a lesser tax rate and then paying the personal use tax that the city sends after. I figure less tax to add to total bill upfront, means less on F&I...am I right to think this way. I will be happy to pay the difference in tax in cash back to the city, rather then add it to the total price of the car and into F&I.
Castle Honda Morton Grove ....Honda Accord LX 4-door Auto/Graphite
$17767.00 includ dest + 15.00 county fee+143.00 plates+55.39 doc+ 1599.03 (9% chicago tax)=19579 OTD!
Our taxes blow here in Chicago!
I purchased an accord LX V4 AT from Rosenthal honda for 18000 out of the door( About 1750 below invoice. I went through their internet sales group. They quoted me 18375 on road, but bargained down to 18000 in no time. It seems that honda dealers in northern VA are very desperate to sell cars. The internet sales guy's name is Jacob Lee and a very nice guy.
wondering if you financed or leased?
im looking to buy an accord ex coupe soon also. been researching like a madman and am counting down to july 18 for the clearance sale (just graduated from school, broke, need to save as much as possible on first car purchase).
Holy crap that was quick! I was watching Live 8 the whole day (aol), I should've checked the forum for your updates...
Great job, I am glad that it worked out for you, I guess you did not get the silver that you wanted but oh well, it is close. Did you go to the dealer and just sat down and started bargaining, or did you take a test drive over there too?
I kinda wanna wait until the 18th, but at the same time getting impatient too... I know that there are a lot of people here who are waiting for the 18th like me...
Hmm, the tax gets charged upfront, it does not matter where you buy the car. We're screwed any way you look at it.. If the new car tax in North Carolina is 3%, that would make a difference of $1080 (In Chicago tax is 9%).... I would even fly out there and drive the car back and would still save money. Too bad I cannot register it there...
1) The shape of these new generation of car keys being relatively unusual, where can I get spares made (copies of the valet key)? Can it be done at the usual places (Ace Hardware, etc)?
2) Break-in period: I was told by the manager who reviewed the car features with me during purchase that it's enough just to vary the speed so the parts don't get used to moving at one certain speed. Aside from unnecessarily hard starts and stops, he said there wasn't an RPM range to stay within. He also said the first oil change can be done according to its normal schedule (5,000 miles). Hasn't it been the consensus out there that the first oil change should be done at 1,000 miles to remove the engine debris & metal filings that build up during the break-in period? Or has automotive manufacturing technology improved so vastly as to render that unnecessary nowadays? I'd like to hear how the other new buyers have been going about this process.
3) For dark colored cars (black/graphite), is it a good idea to have the exterior waxed from the get-go? the sun's pretty scorching where i live.
4) Has anyone ever had those custom car seat covers made by CoverKing? If you've had experience with these, what is your opinion of the leatherette material? Difficulty of installation? Worth the price? The leatherette covers run $165 per row for the 05 Accords. Besides these covers from CoverKing, I don't believe there are any other really good alternatives -- I think CoverKing ones are the only custom-fitted covers on the market, and 05 accords have the side airbags that deploy from the seat, so you'd have to cut some holes in non-custom-fit covers to use them safely. And lastly...
4) Are there any other post-purchase details others have come across besides the above ones?
Much thx in advance to anyone who replies. By the way, the incentives for July must be much higher than what was available in June. On carsdirect.com, the price for LX's suddenly dropped by $750 for the zip code where i live once July rolled around. hope those who haven't bought yet will get good deals.
This is true that I got 18000 out of the door. From Rosenthal honda in Tyson's corner in Tysons corner in Northern Virginia. The price was 16550 + 515 + 3.17% tax + 300. It came with the door edge guard, pinstripe, floor mats, and 2 yr oil change free. If you need more info, shoot me an email at "amitra123--at-- yahoo.com", and I would be glad to help you.
What I did, I was open minded with camry and accord, and I could go with any one of them. I was probing the dealerships for last 6 months, and wanted to get a good price + financing. The best place to go would be to cars.com, and ask for dealer quote. Dealers know that you will receive multiple quotes, and they trys to get you a good deal. Always go through the internet sales agen as their comission is based on "a" car sold(I believe $300 fixed per car), not by the % of the profit. On 30th June at 5 PM, they offerd me 18200 , I stuck to my guns at 1800 and they agreed.
I had bad experience with Toyota dealers. They believe that camry is a better car, and arrogant in behavior. THeir attitude is "If you do not buy someone else will by", and not interested in discounting. The lowest price I could get on camry was 19000 out of the door for 2005 LE/5AT(with side airbag). HOnda has a better resale value, so why go with tiyota paying 1000 more for the same thing.
I can introduce to the sales agent I used, if you need it. PLease let me know if I can be of any help.
Thansk
Mitra
There "well qualified" buyer FICO is 700 or higher. However, don't think that you can't get it if you are close. We were at 677 and got 2.9%, but there was a circumstance that happend and I think it helped us.
We were there at the END of the day and the F&I guy had a family of four in there and we were watching them through the window. At one point the F&I guy picked up the paper he was working on, rolled it into a ball and chucked it over his shoulder, followed by alot of head shaking, hand in his head type of looks. They were in there for over an hour, so we had to wait. When we got in there, he was exhausted and very flustered, so I just used my job as a nurse to talk to him...making sure he was ok and agreeing that people are tough sometimes and that you do the best you can....I brought him down from a rage to laughing and having a good time in 20 minutes...he actually thanked me. I got my 2.9% financing, he didn't even try to sell me on anything. The only thing he said to me is "do you want anything back end on this car". I said No, he said ok and papers signed, keys in hand, out the door in 20 minutes. He was also leaving to go home. Again I think that helped.
I had a good experience at the dealership...Castle Honda for many reasons. (all of which I won't print here). I feel I got a fair deal and am happy. Could the prices be better at the end of the month...sure there's always that chance, but I felt what I got was fair...and really, that's all I wanted.
2) The manual says no hard stops and no full throttle for the first xxx miles. It does not say anything about varying speeds - but I follow that. The manual DOES state to not change the oil until the recommended time - no early changes. This leads folks to speculate there is some "break in oil" in the motor. I talked to the service manager at my dealership about this (for my wife's Accord and my friend's new CR-V) and he said just wait until it is time. The book says 10k normally or 5k if "extreme duty" - he said nothing wrong with a stop-and-go drive car being changed at the "extreme" interval of 5k. So we are waiting until close to 5k to change it the first time.
3) Wash and wax right away - no matter where you live. By the time the car gets to you the paint is "cured" more than enough and the sooner you wax it the better.
4) Why do you need seat covers? I found the material used by Honda to by typically long lasting and comfortable. With sensors and bags in the seats I would not bother.
Enjoy your new car!
Dennis
I'll take your points for the first two questions, so they're solved. For question 3, have you had any experience with the express wax service you can get from a car wash place such as simoniz? I'd welcome your thoughts on the best & most practical (that's important for me) way of getting your car waxed (recommendations on time intervals between waxes also).
As for question 4, I just want covers for mostly cosmetic reasons. CoverKing makes customized two-tone leatherette covers that I'm interested in. And their covers are fully functional with all the sensors and airbags for the accord.
In any case, I'm just trying to research how to best protect the exterior of my car, since it's nighthawk black. Thanks again, Dennis.
Thanks for all the help and very informative replies.
I got back from atl the other day...u won't believe the price: $15,331 including all fees(even the $3 GA lemon law fee) before tax and title. Again, this was for a new 05 Honda DX VP. I know, I lucked out. I bought it throught the internet dept of Curry Honda in atl(the salesperson was fantabulous!!). But, almost got screwed by Team Honda in ATL. I'll post more below.
Again this car was purchased from Curry Honda. Can't say enough good things abt the sales guy. Wish the moderators would let me give out his name. Let me just say he was of Korean descent and has been with Curry Honda for 6 yrs. I am still amazed by his straightforwardness and lack of duplicity. Most every other dealer salesperson I went through was shady as hell(I shopped abt 10 dealers in the nashville and ATL area).
Now, there is one dealer in ATL that I will never do biz w/. The dealer is Team Honda in Lithia Springs. The saint of a salesperson quoted me a good price by way of email. I made sure to ask him if it included ALL fees except for state mandated TTL. He gave me a resounding yes. I asked him to fax over the buyers order along w/ Vin# and miles. I even gave him my credit card # to put a hold on the car. The following day after not hearing from him, I called Team Honda and was told that the salesperson was not working that day. Funny but it was the last day the deal was available. Asked to speak to someone else and got the internet manager. This dude was shadier than the salesperson. When I was telling him the price I received, I could hear the hesitation in his voice. He told me he would call me back later that day. When the fool called back, he was happy to inform me that the salesperson had made a mistake and omitted the $499 doc/processing fee. I told him that the email explicitly stated that the quote included all fees. He said, yeah, it was a mistake. The worst thing is this same manager emailed me abt making our appt to come in. he knew i was coming in from out of state. Pretty sure they where counting on me buying at the inflated price so that i wouldn't have wasted coming in the 1st place. [non-permissible content removed] thieves.
This is why I was so glad to have found Curry. Hennessey seemed honest too but lowest was $15,700 area. Gwennet(?) told me that they where in the 15900 area and couldn't come down. At least they where honest and choice not to play games like Team Honda in Lithia Springs.
Included in the price of my Accord was mudguards and a security etching service. I didn't want these items but for the price I got, what the hell, there was no room to go lower.
Again, great service from the internet salesguy at Curry Honda. Trust me, I am very hard on salesppl. He was he best!
anyway, if anybody is thinking abt the DX VP vs LX, the main diff is that the DX VP does not have power door locks(though it does have power windows, no cruise control, no power mirrors, only 2 speaker(but they sound great), and no keyless entry. Was thinking abt getting aft mkt leather but no way--the std fabic it comes w/ is so plush!
Also, i noticed that there are speakers in the back but they r just not connected. Wondering how easy this would be to do? Maybe find some car audiophile buddys to hook me up?
Also the control knobs for power locks and mirrors r replaced by plastic coverings. I wonder if this is just turned off and can easily be turned on? any honda techs out there?
and wht abt cruise control? is this something tht can be done? don't want to mess w/ any major components---it's not tht impt! I f i can do the above for a cple 100, i just might, but i am a stingy [non-permissible content removed].
very happy w/ the accord dx vp!
I am very interested in your deal. I also live in ATL. Would you mind share more information about the dealer?
You can reply here or just email me at:yzhuoy@yahoo.com
Thank you
Leatherette sounds like vinyl which does not sound as comfy as either fabric or real leather. You might try a Google on it and see if some has tried it on some car and how they liked it.
Dennis
I got 2400$ under invoice though saturday was very busy day So I had to wait for almost 4 hrs to get this car but deal was already made on phone so negotiation , no hassel etc
My break drown are
21758 ( $2400 under invoice)
+tax.,title
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23954 ( OTD)
I am looking to purchase an Accord in NJ and would be really grateful if you could give me more details about your purchase. Would it be possible for me to email you offline?
Thanks!!
Thanks for any insight.
Thats a smoking deal that you got. I'm looking for either the accord ex v6 or ex 4cyl w/leather. what dealership did you go to in NJ?
Does anyone know any good dealerships in NYC that are worthwhile? I've only seen some good number come out of NJ but not so good out of NYC. Leads would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Good Luck guys!
Thanks!
I paid out $17,300 for my LXmt, with a couple add-ons: gravel guard, trunk tray and locks.
I am waiting though to see if someone eventually takes one away for less than $17k.
I am getting a deal of 23184.00 OTD for AT 4 cyl EX (no navi) in San Diego. Is that a good deal? what do you guys think?
Also, I am wondering if I should wait till july 18. Do you think there is a possibility of getting a better deal than this?
Thanks!
Have you checked out Carsdirect.com and compared their no haggle low price? I'm in Chicago where the sales tax is 9%, and my out the door is a little over $22,000 (with dest, doc, tax, title, etc). Dunno what SD taxes are like.
I'm waiting to July 18th and am gonna compare. I think you can get a better deal when the offical Clearance Sale kicks into gear and if you buy through Internet Sales manager.