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service in case u don't wanna wait up there.
Ken Dixon is bigger than Alexandria and while they are friendly, they run more like a machine. They are not as personable with you, but definitely friendly and courteous.
Honestly, I don't mind a 20 minute drive to get good service. The main reason I actually go to Ken Dixon now is because they have a program (since I bought my car there) that every penny I spend, a percentage of it goes towards the purchase of a new vehicle there.
When I was ten, my dad bought a new '55 Plymouth Savoy 2-dr sedan - his first new car in six years. In less than a week he was convinced the car listed to one side. But, like your observation, it listed oppositely in the front than the rear. He took it back to the dealership since in those days new car warranties were for only three months/3,000 miles if I'm not mistaken. The service manager listened patiently and then said, "That's too bad. Your new car was normal when you took delivery." And, that was that. Hope you have better luck than my dad did.
Actually...the warranty is one of the reasons I bought Hyundai again. Because of the horsepower discrepancy, my powertrain warranty was extended to 120K miles, so...4 years and 105K miles down the road...the car was still covered as far as the powertrain went (which to me was the most important part). However, most of the warranty work I ever got happend within the first year and a half. The last 2.5 years were problem free!!!
On the other hand, I'm not as familiar as Ray with the improvement in recent conventional oils. Ray, do you think this is no longer much of an issue?
I don't believe it's as much of an issue as it was as recently as three or four years ago - and the conventionals of that period were already pretty darned good. Current (API SM/ILSAC GF-4) conventional oils are VERY good within 6K mile oil change intervals. (I'm not sure I could sleep well at night pushing them to 7,500 miles, though, unless it was primarily highway driving*...) The national name brand conventionals have very highly refined base oils (all but the lowest of the low bottom-feeder independent brands using a form of synthesis, "hydrogen isomerization" to further tweak the base stocks) and robust additive chemistries. For anyone interested in my personal recommendation for a top line conventional at very reasonable pricing, seek out Chevron Supreme or its corporate twin, Havoline, in the owner's manual recommended viscosity. Motorcraft, a synthetic blend, is also on my personal favorites shortlist. I have no argument with those who're willing to cough up the extra shekels for full synthetics, though.
*Highway miles are the easiest miles an internal combustion engine will ever see because the engine's fully warmed (burns off moisture and fuel contamination in the motor oil and sends it out the exhuast), tooling along at a fairly constant speed, and as close to the ideal 15:1 stoichometric air/fuel mix as possible. Conversely, stop-'n-go urban crawl along with incomplete warming (promotes moisture and fuel contamination in the motor oil) just to pick up a few groceries and then back home a couple times a week is an oil killer. Grannies really do need to get their motor oil changed at 3K mile intervals.
Have you got pictures with other views you can show?
Glad you like it though...you just don't know how much I went through to find some I thought would set the car off.
Once I get it in, I'll post about how the install went, along with some pics.
SonicElectronix.com
If you want to find a good price on one, put the model number in a google search and check Ebay out. I found that Pioneer model on Ebay (brand new) for $247 + s&h.
For those of you wondering about the ride quality...the tire size I have on the wheel is 245/35-20. I can tell you that highway cruising hasn't suffered at all. The only time you really notice a change in the ride is over rough roads. You feel more bumps (as to be expected) due to the lower profile of the tire, however...the plus in this is increased handling. The tire size is perfect as there is no rubbing when turning, nor when you go over bumps...they fit beautifully.
If you're looking for a "luxury" ride from the Azera, then the most you want to go up to is an 18" wheel as you'll still be able to go with a 50-series tire. Once you get to the 19" wheel, you drop to a 45-series tire and the ride becomes more rigid and more road feel is transferred through the tires.
The reason I picked the particular unit I'm going with is the silver finish, it's a double din, MP3/WMA/ACC compatible and also satellite radio ready (if I so choose to subscribe at any point). Plus...you can't go wrong with a Pioneer.
We are going to go with this one, its real nice about 1500 in stores and they go for around $600-700 on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/Pioneer-AVIC-D2-AVICD2-DVD-ROM-NAVIGATION-NEW-NO-BULLSH_W0QQ- itemZ140040881627QQihZ004QQcategoryZ79834QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Pioneer In-Dash DVD Multimedia AV Navigation Receiver (AVICD2)
Basic features
Crystal clear display: The widescreen 6.5-inch display has 1,440 x 234 pixel resolution for incredible clarity. The panel is easy to read, the touch panel provides intuitive operation, and the layout delivers user-friendly operation by positioning the basic control keys around the screen for easy reach.
Completely compatible: The AVIC-D2 provides a full media experience with AM/FM radio, CD, MP3, WMA and more, and plays CD-R/RW discs so you can burn your own mixes and play them on the road. The system is compatible with both iPod® and XM or SIRIUS satellite radio, though you’ll need to purchase additional hardware.*
Double disc slot: Taking advantage of the double-DIN size, the AVIC-D2 hides two separate disc slots behind its face panel—one for navigation map DVD-ROM and one for CD. Music from the CD player or other audio source can be enjoyed while the navigator is in operation, so you can listen to music and use the navigation without the need to constantly switch discs.
Seamless installation: The AVIC-D2 is designed for a perfect fit in vehicles that feature a double-DIN size, so the system seems to meld into the dashboard—providing a fit and finish similar to the factory systems. Forget the hassle, and have it installed professionally at the Roadshop.
Navigation
Tele Atlas maps: Pioneer Navigation Systems come with two DVD-ROMs containing a massive “Tele Atlas” database, which enables the units to provide the largest network of turn-by-turn routable roads. The discs provide nearly 11 million points of interest throughout the United States and Canada, including Alaska and Hawaii. The system sorts 258 categories to make finding the nearest gas station, ATM or restaurant easy. As you're guided along your route, points of interest are overlaid onto the map as colorful, easy-to-recognize logos and icons.
Live traffic and weather updates: With the XM NavTraffic™ digital satellite tuner, traffic information is provided through a continuous satellite broadcast, with data aggregated by NAVTEQ Traffic from multiple sources. If there is a traffic jam on the route to your destination, the Navigation System will automatically alert you of the traffic ahead, and suggest any alternate route found by the unit.*
Roadside assistance display: Access important assistance information quickly and easily. Emergency numbers, current location, street, state, latitude and longitude are just some of the display features that will make any trip safer.
Rear view camera: Keep an eye on your backside using the optional rear view camera. Two rear-view modes are offered: while you’re in reverse the rear-view camera can be in full screen, or while moving forward, you can see what’s behind you with the rear-view split screen,
Music
Supertuner® IIID™ digital tuner: Punch in your favorite radio stations and save them in one of the 18 FM/6 AM memory presets for easy access.
Sound controls: The selectable loudness control lets you hear every detail in your music at lower volume levels. The Easy EQ with five settings—powerful, super bass, flat, natural and vocal—lets you tailor the sound coming from your speakers by adjusting the settings according to the type of music you're listening to.
50 watts x 4 peak power: The internal amplifier pumps out plenty of power to your speakers. Controlled by voltage rather than current, MOSFET transistors create little or no heat to ensure fast response and high frequency performance. The result is faithful sound reproduction with expressive musical detail.
Satellite radio programming: Enjoy live digital-quality music, news, sports and entertainment from coast to coast.*
Installation instructions: A vehicle-specific wiring harness, antenna adapter, installation kit and in-dash player harness are required to install this in-dash player. Use our car audio fit guide to find the accessories that fit your vehicle.
*Requires XM or SIRIUS satellite radio subscription and/or XM NavTraffic™ service. Subscriptions sold separately.
How much are you being charged for the install???
Sorry have to disagree with you there. Had fun playing with mine until the novelty wore off, now I never use it. I trust my knowledge of the roads and traffic I travel more than the nav system.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Oh I love my portable one. Use that one all the time, just never in my car. Use it a lot for fishing, hiking and the like.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Get lost hiking with one and you can easily find your way back.
Another thing I like about my portable is that you can set it to sound an alarm when you get within a set distance of a certain point. There are a couple of places that I go to infrequently that have hidden turnoffs. That feature allows me to find them a lot easier.
But if I need to find my way from point 'A' to point 'B' I can always use a map.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Honestly...I try to not rely on computers for every little detail of my life. Just like dialing numbers...I still punch a # in when calling as opposed to speed dial or looking it up in the memory. However, there are just aspects of daily living where it can't be escaped in most cases.
I believe I am going with 19x8.5 Dubs but I am still hunting for something that grabs me.
Many of us, including me, are interested in the toys that can be added to our particular car.
Many helpful tips are exchanged.
Problems with the model and solutions to those problems, when possible, also make good talk.
The frustrations of dealing with a company, that has shown little interest in customer or dealer support can be discussed.
Hyundai Blog
Jun 19, 2006
Toyota telling suppliers not to sell parts to Hyundai
It has been said before that Toyota's biggest worry is not overtaking GM in sales, but rather Hyundai overtaking Toyota in sales. With that in mind, Toyota has told suppliers not to sell parts to Hyundai. If the suppliers resist, Toyota may increase their stockholding in these companies, and thereby force them to do so.
Snippet: It could be said that major car parts are developed jointly by carmakers and their affiliates. So, "It's like fattening a rival company at Toyota's own development expenses," says Toyota official. Some Toyota executives said, "We may have to pressure (the parts makers) not to do business with Hyundai. It may sound extremely drastic, but we may have to think of raising the stockholdings of our affiliates to make them do as we tell them."
Toyota outsells Hyundai 4 to 1 worldwide.
Any manufacturer of any product attempts to pressure their suppliers if they swing a big enough bat.
I'm certain that this pressure is not directed only at Hyundai suppliers.
I guarantee you it's directed at the Hyundai suppliers. Mazda, Nissan and Honda have been in the game long enough for Toyota not to be able to affect them. However, they (Toyota) sees the "new kid" on the block making serious strides, they want to try and bully them into submission...or in this case, an inferior product.
Jan 11, 2006
Toyota worries about Hyundai
Toyota Motor Corp, one of the world's most successful automakers, claims to be afraid of a lot of things: complacency, competition, and success itself.
But in the United States, rival Hyundai Motor Co. may well be at the top of Toyota's list.
"We're worried about them," Yukitoshi Funo, chairman of Toyota Motor Sales USA, told reporters in Detroit this week.
"Our main competitors here are essentially Honda Motor Co. Ltd., Nissan Motor Co. Ltd. and Hyundai, but Hyundai is the one we are very carefully watching," he said on the sidelines of the North American International Auto Show here.
South Korea's top automaker, until recently a target of jokes about broken-down parts, has dramatically raised its profile on the world stage with a benchmark study by research firm J.D. Power showing an improvement in quality to match the best Japanese brands.
I think Toyota is correct in their assessment of Hyundai. In many ways their recent products have many of the same attributes that put Toyota where they are: bland if not inoffensive styling, mainstream appeal, reliability (now), and very reasonable prices.
Does anyone know the numbers of Azeras sold in the US compared to the numbers of Avalons?
One might think that with the huge numbers of 06 Azera's in dealers inventory, and the discounts being offered, that to this point the Azera has not been a great marketing or sales success.
Perhaps Hyundai should start responding to owners and dealers communication problems, to help build their support and consumer confidence.
XG350/AZERA Oct 06 1,911 Oct 05 1,289 + 48.3
CTD 06 22,473 CTD 05 13,589 +65.4
AVALON Oct 06 7,024 Oct 05 8,195 -10.9 CTD 06 73,929 CTD 05 78,315 -5.6
(Sorry about the formatting.)
Are the October 2006 & 2005 #'s just for the month?
Is CTD an annual #? Cars to date / Cars to dealers? Are the CTD #'s specific to Azera & Avelon?
Hopefully the 300 ring comes soon!