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in 5-6 years /100,000 miles from now it won't be high tech anymore it will be every day repair.
It cost my grand daddy a weeks pay for a new suit it cost my daddy a weeks pay for a new suit and it cost me a weeks pay for a new suit... things don't change that much despite what they try to sell us.
I am not trying to convince you or anyone else not to buy a warranty for many I mentioned it is a fit.
Great discussion and I respect your perspective!
Either you need to change the suits you buy or get a better job that pays more! LOL
Purchasing a warranty is something everyone has to figure out for themselves if it fits their needs. Knowledge is power and knowing what is available and how it works is the best knowledge you can have when it comes to warranties. Don't just buy one because it sounds good, do a little research and find out what's behind it.
If you're the type to turn a car in after 2-3 years to trade in for something else, any extended warranty would be waste of money out of your pocket. If your the type, like me, that plans on buying a vehicle and keeping it until whenever...an extended warranty may be what you want. Just do some research and see what is being offered for the money and just exactly what it does cover.
Are you saying that you only paid $500 for an extended warrenty? If so, then i concur with your reasoning. Anything around $1000+ is not worth it in my opinion.
One thing I noticed yesterday while looking at the Buick site...it looks as if the Enclave has 12K miles & 12 month additional bumper to bumper warranty. So, if it is about the same pricing as an Acadia or Outlook with the same equipment, it might be a better deal, assuming the buyer likes all about the same.
BTW: May 15 was the 2 month anniversary of us ordering it.
Actually the opposite. If you drive a lot of miles(20k/year) and sell every 5 years (80% of new cars are sold before 5 years) the warranty works out great. The other guys will be up in 3 years of you drive that much which many do.
What do you mean by, "The other guys will be up in 3 years if you drive that much which many do."???
I think 15k is about average today per year.
Right now the best thing going is the BMW free maintenance for 4 years. A friend of mine told me that EVERYTHING is covered except for any oil changes you get in between the 15K mile intervals as stated in the owner's manual. I wonder if any of the domestic or non-Euro imports will try that one?
Furthermore, why buy a service contract when you first buy the car. You have up to the time that the original warranty expires, which can be several years.
GM did not raise the price of their cars with the new warranty but they did reduce incentives to make up for the cost.
How do you figure that GM reduced their incentives? Those change all the time. A long warranty doesn't have to cost a company much at all if they are producing quality products.
I think you will really enjoy this vehicle. I only have 250 miles on my Acadia and so far can find no problems. If you talk to your salesman real nice before the car arrives you might be able to get him to throw in a set of 1st and 2nd row winter floor mats (costs more from GM than you would expect) or some other accessory you might want as good will for the difficulties. I had a great dealer experience and got the floor mats as part of the overall deal.
Unless the vehicle has perfect warranty (and nobody does) things will break and it will not be free. Why doesn't Lexus, the highest quality producer offer the 100k warranty if it was free?
How do you figure that GM reduced their incentives?
Incentives at GM are way down from last year. thousands. MSRP's have also been lowered.
http://www.wiglafjournal.com/Articles/2006/06-12-PriceWaterfall.htm
Lexus is a Toyota brand...need I say more? Toyota has always felt no need to back their products with a long warranty. However, get repair work done after it's out of warranty and see how your bank account looks. It doesn't matter, Toyota or Lexus brand will hit you over the head when it comes to cost of repairs.
Based on the article, GM's pricing isn't necessarily related directly to them offering the warranty they offer. In most cases, a vehicle will not have too many issues in the 5 year period the warranty is effective (providing mileage isn't the issue). The manufacturer is banking on this fact. Granted, there are a handful of vehicles that just seem to be problematic, but compared to the total number produced...it's a very small percentage. I'm sure they budget for it accordingly. Trust me, GM heads are not losing sleep over warranty covered repairs and what it's costing the company.
The lack of incentives is to close the gap between MSRP and pocket price, the manufacturer is trying to make more on each vehicle so that they can pad their wallets with bigger executive compensations packages while they lay off the the workers. It boils down to American greed.
Warranty Claims Rates of the Big Five
"GM now spends 2.6% of its auto sales revenue fixing vehicles under warranty. Ford spends 2.9%." (Warranty Week for 5-17-07)
BUT GM's curve is going down and will continue to decrease as the newer, higher quality vehicles are brought in.
What is amazing is how bad Mercedes is doing. Too bad the data does not go back 10 years.
Once a Toyota or Lexus is beyond it's warranty range, repairs that are done aren't classified as warranty issues. I bet you if Toyota extended their warranty to match that of GM or Hyundai...there would be an increase in their numbers. I don't think they have the cahones to expose themselves like that.
In fact most makes will not have a problem in that time. Well, actually it is 2 problems per car but most will not be warranty issues.
This is exactly why Toyota's numbers are so low. I guarantee you if they extended their warranty numbers...they would look like the rest, but maybe slightly better.
I meant the complaint rate is 2 issues per car but not all would be worth taking in for warranty even if free.
But that is not their fault. Blame the dumb americans for using salt on the roads.
GM got this one right (so far).
I agree however if we got rid of the salt rust issues would go down significantly.
The real question is, what shape are those Chevys, Olds and Fords from the 70's? There's plenty of foreign cars still on the road from the 80's and 90's...PLENTY!!!
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Yes, they are pretty much immune to rust.
two sided galvanized for many years. Started with inside only then went two sided. Takes a good scratch to get thru the coating.
No it's the dumb americans who buy the foreign junk that have the problem. Not the smart americans who buy american. :shades:
Wonder how the highlander will price out...The Pilot seems to offer a significantly lower price also.
All though I see my local dealers here in Seattle have sale prices that are 2k off MSRP before conquest cash etc...
Any one think the price will come down? Pretty unlikely I know...
I think prices will likely stay the same, but the incentives might get better:
(1) Gas prices are creeping higher and higher,
(2) I believe that the 2008 mpg numbers will use the "new" mpg measurements, while the 2007 numbers use the "old" system. This will likely mean published mpg will be lower.
So maybe people will again think twice about a SUV, which might mean better incentives.
That is what I came up with, with exactly those options, both the Acadia and Outlook go over $40K, and for that price, the Acura MDX could be a better buy.
Wonder how the highlander will price out...The Pilot seems to offer a significantly lower price also.
I am waiting for the highlander pricing, too. The Pilot does not offer HID lights, and has smaller wheels (16") compared to all lambdas and MDX. If you are interested in space, the Pilot is good (seats 8 adults), and the shift lever is mounted on the steering column - more space! Now, I priced the Buick Enclave to be about $36K, using the CXL model and 2 packages (I didn't pick the sunroof, so may be it will be $37.3K for you). Check out if that one works for you.
Any one think the price will come down?
Price of gasoline - No. Price of the vehicle - I think so. The lambdas are new, and the MDX sales are slow (read in one of the threads). Higher gas price will slow down the sales - meaning more bargaining power for an SUV purchase.
Best wishes, - MS.
Suggestions?
I am having a hard time remembering prior test drives that happened a few weeks ago, but I do think that the Mazda CX9 ride was smoother. I can;t exactly put my finger on it, it just didn't feel as smooth of a ride. Plus the CX9 has bluetooth and smartkey.
But the GMC/Buick dealership is 5-minutes from my house, while the Mazda dealership is 30-40 minutes away, and I really like the 2nd row captains chairs of the Acadia/Enclave better than the 2nd row bench of the CX9 - easier to get to the 3rd row, and generally just feels more open when sitting int he 3rd row.
I am having a hard time choosing between the two.