Maybe this isn't exactly the right forum for this, but since everyone here is in the market for a 5 series, I'll start here...can anyone describe the nuances between the luxury line and "m" line? Looking at the 535d x, it appears to be a $1,150 increase to get an m badge steering wheel and some other aesthetic stuff. But the diesel all wheel drive does not have sport suspension, so there's no real difference in the car other than the steering wheel and some chrome. Anyone think the extra $$$ is worth it? In a lease its about $18/month (does a diesel really matter in a 36 month lease anyway - different question). thanks
Hi - I wasn't afraid to put in options (close to $20k of them) - I saw no reason or benefit for the 2 extra lines (though I am paying a extra $1k for wood, so what do I know?). I seriously considered the diesel, but at the end of the day I felt getting gas (okay, diesel) would be a pain in my area, and I felt the cost versus mpg versus diesel fuel cost didn't make it compelling (to me). I don't think diesel is huge in central NJ. Sure, there are SOME stations that sell it. But all sell gasoline. Just my .02
I've priced the car on TrueCar and maybe someone can check my math before I go to the dealer? 535dx fully loaded, msrp of $78,225, truecar estimate of $71,620. I used a MF of .0013 and depreciation of 62%, 36 mo in NYC calculated to $798/mo before tax; $869 inc tax; $906 inc lux tax. Out of pockets should be about $2,750. Does that sound about right? Thanks
I've priced the car on TrueCar and maybe someone can check my math before I go to the dealer? 535dx fully loaded, msrp of $78,225, truecar estimate of $71,620. I used a MF of .0013 and depreciation of 62%, 36 mo in NYC calculated to $798/mo before tax; $869 inc tax; $906 inc lux tax. Out of pockets should be about $2,750. Does that sound about right? Thanks
I confirm the $798/mo number before tax with those numbers. How do you breakdown the $2750 due at signing?
I've priced the car on TrueCar and maybe someone can check my math before I go to the dealer? 535dx fully loaded, msrp of $78,225, truecar estimate of $71,620. I used a MF of .0013 and depreciation of 62%, 36 mo in NYC calculated to $798/mo before tax; $869 inc tax; $906 inc lux tax. Out of pockets should be about $2,750. Does that sound about right? Thanks
I confirm the $798/mo number before tax with those numbers. How do you breakdown the $2750 due at signing?
You're right I may have miscalculated that. First month ($900) Acquisition (about $650) DMV (about $300) and maybe security ($???). But I've had BMW's as recently as 4 years ago so maybe the security gets waived?
I've priced the car on TrueCar and maybe someone can check my math before I go to the dealer? 535dx fully loaded, msrp of $78,225, truecar estimate of $71,620. I used a MF of .0013 and depreciation of 62%, 36 mo in NYC calculated to $798/mo before tax; $869 inc tax; $906 inc lux tax. Out of pockets should be about $2,750. Does that sound about right? Thanks
I confirm the $798/mo number before tax with those numbers. How do you breakdown the $2750 due at signing?
You're right I may have miscalculated that. First month ($900) Acquisition (about $650) DMV (about $300) and maybe security ($???). But I've had BMW's as recently as 4 years ago so maybe the security gets waived?
Acquisition fee is now $795, and yes the security deposit is often waived.
I'd make sure I understand every piece of the up front costs.
Was there any trunk money last month? I had an offer for 1500 under invoice but there wasn't a promotion running. Just wondering if the trunk money went away and this replaced it.
Was there any trunk money last month? I had an offer for 1500 under invoice but there wasn't a promotion running. Just wondering if the trunk money went away and this replaced it.
Hi, do you have the residual/mf for May for the 2015 M5. I was assuming numbers are the same as for the 5 series, but now hear that residual seems to differ.
Hi, do you have the residual/mf for May for the 2015 M5. I was assuming numbers are the same as for the 5 series, but now hear that residual seems to differ.
535xi M Sport Exterior: Alpine White Interior: Mocha Nappa Leather w/ Black Dashboard (M Sport Line) Cold Weather Pkg Premium Package Rear-view camera (Req. 508) Park Distance Control (required)
36month 10k per year
Monthly 668.17
Net Cap Cost: $61500.00 MF: 0.00129 Upfront Sales Tax: $2,074.67 Acquisition Fee: $995.00 DMV Fees: $0.00 Tire Fee: $10.00 Insp Fee: $10.00 Doc Fee: $75.00 Other Fees: $0.00 Tax on Fees: $92.29 Cash Due on Lease: $3,925.13
535xi M Sport Exterior: Alpine White Interior: Mocha Nappa Leather w/ Black Dashboard (M Sport Line) Cold Weather Pkg Premium Package Rear-view camera (Req. 508) Park Distance Control (required)
36month 10k per year
Monthly 668.17
Net Cap Cost: $61500.00 MF: 0.00129 Upfront Sales Tax: $2,074.67 Acquisition Fee: $995.00 DMV Fees: $0.00 Tire Fee: $10.00 Insp Fee: $10.00 Doc Fee: $75.00 Other Fees: $0.00 Tax on Fees: $92.29 Cash Due on Lease: $3,925.13
Are there new MF and Residual numbers for the 535D AWD; 36 mo/10k? They've returned the eco credit ($500) and added Anniversary Credit ($1,500). thanks
Are there new MF and Residual numbers for the 535D AWD; 36 mo/10k? They've returned the eco credit ($500) and added Anniversary Credit ($1,500). thanks
.00129 and 63% for 36/10. I confirm both the $500 EcoCredit as well as the $1500 Anniversary Credit for May.
Are there new MF and Residual numbers for the 535D AWD; 36 mo/10k? They've returned the eco credit ($500) and added Anniversary Credit ($1,500). thanks
.00129 and 63% for 36/10. I confirm both the $500 EcoCredit as well as the $1500 Anniversary Credit for May.
I've been quoted $70,870 for a car with an MSRP of $78,225. I ran the math and got a lease rate of $755, plus tax, which in NYS at 8.875 totals $822/mo. Does this look correct? Is there still luxury tax? The dealer offered $876/mo inc all taxes.
Are there new MF and Residual numbers for the 535D AWD; 36 mo/10k? They've returned the eco credit ($500) and added Anniversary Credit ($1,500). thanks
.00129 and 63% for 36/10. I confirm both the $500 EcoCredit as well as the $1500 Anniversary Credit for May.
I've been quoted $70,870 for a car with an MSRP of $78,225. I ran the math and got a lease rate of $755, plus tax, which in NYS at 8.875 totals $822/mo. Does this look correct? Is there still luxury tax? The dealer offered $876/mo inc all taxes.
My numbers match yours. Ask the dealer what the net cap cost is .. if different from the $70,870 number, find out what they've added.
So about $2885. Not sure if they are adding on a luxury tax of $220 so that would take it to $3105. With the taxes and fees rolled in does the $565 per month sound right? Selling may be less than $48000 and more in the mid to high $47000s at this point. The conversation is now revolving more around the total monthly payment.
So about $2885. Not sure if they are adding on a luxury tax of $220 so that would take it to $3105. With the taxes and fees rolled in does the $565 per month sound right? Selling may be less than $48000 and more in the mid to high $47000s at this point. The conversation is now revolving more around the total monthly payment.
Thanks again.
$3105 / 36 = $86.25/mo, so the new payment would be $557.25/mo, pretty close to the $565/mo quote.
Don't negotiate on payment, negotiate the selling price and make sure you understand all the costs being added to that to get the net cap cost.
First time leasing and the first BMW. This was the quote I got on a BMW 528i xdrive with Premium Pkg/Navigation/ Driver Assistance Pkg in Portland, Oregon.
10K/ 36 mo MSRP $59100 Selling price $53100
For $2000, cash down- MF of 0.0015 and 64% Residual. Monthly payment comes to $560.
I see MF is much much higher than what i have seen here thus far.
First time leasing and the first BMW. This was the quote I got on a BMW 528i xdrive with Premium Pkg/Navigation/ Driver Assistance Pkg in Portland, Oregon.
10K/ 36 mo MSRP $59100 Selling price $53100
For $2000, cash down- MF of 0.0015 and 64% Residual. Monthly payment comes to $560.
I see MF is much much higher than what i have seen here thus far.
That is correct .. base MF is .00129 this month. With your other numbers, I get a payment of $509/mo.
First time leasing and the first BMW. This was the quote I got on a BMW 528i xdrive with Premium Pkg/Navigation/ Driver Assistance Pkg in Portland, Oregon.
10K/ 36 mo MSRP $59100 Selling price $53100
For $2000, cash down- MF of 0.0015 and 64% Residual. Monthly payment comes to $560.
I see MF is much much higher than what i have seen here thus far.
That is correct .. base MF is .00129 this month. With your other numbers, I get a payment of $509/mo.
What is the breakdown of the $2K at signing?
No sales tax in Oregon, correct?
Waiting on the exact details, Though he says $2k includes the first months payment.
First time leasing and the first BMW. This was the quote I got on a BMW 528i xdrive with Premium Pkg/Navigation/ Driver Assistance Pkg in Portland, Oregon.
10K/ 36 mo MSRP $59100 Selling price $53100
For $2000, cash down- MF of 0.0015 and 64% Residual. Monthly payment comes to $560.
I see MF is much much higher than what i have seen here thus far.
That is correct .. base MF is .00129 this month. With your other numbers, I get a payment of $509/mo.
What is the breakdown of the $2K at signing?
No sales tax in Oregon, correct?
Waiting on the exact details, Though he says $2k includes the first months payment.
First payment, acquisition fee, dealer fee (maybe) and tags/license costs, are my guess. Just need to confirm that it does not include any cap cost reduction.
First time leasing and the first BMW. This was the quote I got on a BMW 528i xdrive with Premium Pkg/Navigation/ Driver Assistance Pkg in Portland, Oregon.
10K/ 36 mo MSRP $59100 Selling price $53100
For $2000, cash down- MF of 0.0015 and 64% Residual. Monthly payment comes to $560.
I see MF is much much higher than what i have seen here thus far.
That is correct .. base MF is .00129 this month. With your other numbers, I get a payment of $509/mo.
What is the breakdown of the $2K at signing?
No sales tax in Oregon, correct?
Waiting on the exact details, Though he says $2k includes the first months payment.
First payment, acquisition fee, dealer fee (maybe) and tags/license costs, are my guess. Just need to confirm that it does not include any cap cost reduction.
Now, am getting lost. he replied to that by saying "its already accounted for with the savings and rebate"!
First time leasing and the first BMW. This was the quote I got on a BMW 528i xdrive with Premium Pkg/Navigation/ Driver Assistance Pkg in Portland, Oregon.
10K/ 36 mo
MSRP $59100
Selling price $53100
For $2000, cash down- MF of 0.0015 and 64% Residual. Monthly payment comes to $560.
I see MF is much much higher than what i have seen here thus far.
That is correct .. base MF is .00129 this month. With your other numbers, I get a payment of $509/mo.
What is the breakdown of the $2K at signing?
No sales tax in Oregon, correct?
Waiting on the exact details, Though he says $2k includes the first months payment.
First payment, acquisition fee, dealer fee (maybe) and tags/license costs, are my guess. Just need to confirm that it does not include any cap cost reduction.
Now, am getting lost. he replied to that by saying "its already accounted for with the savings and rebate"!
Ok. Then I am guessing there is no Cost reduction with the money you are putting down
Have a lease offer on a 2015 528i 36mo/10k with approx 3K miles (dealership loaner). MSRP is $55,700. Their offer is $549 includes tax ($518 + 31)... As far as we can figure, they are giving us 10% off MSRP ($4650 'BMW loaner discount' + another $920). Also, $2K at inception includes 1st payment, taxes, dealer fees.....no cap reduction amount. Can you help us with a # that we should work towards? We know this offer is too high. Isn't there a $1500 anniversary credit also? Thank you for your help!
Close to a deal on the 535d awd. Going fully loaded including Dynamic Handling. Does anyone have any insight into the Sport Transmission option? I've had paddles on 3 cars and never used them, and rarely ever use the shifter. But is the gearing actually modified and would it make any difference? I'd hate to go to the trouble of ordering this thing and not opting for a $500 option that would be noticeable. Thanks to all in advance
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I don't think diesel is huge in central NJ. Sure, there are SOME stations that sell it. But all sell gasoline. Just my .02
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And thank you all for these posts. They have been very helpful.
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.00129 MF and 63% residual. $1500 Anniversary credit. (either model)
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535xi M Sport
Exterior: Alpine White
Interior: Mocha Nappa Leather w/ Black Dashboard (M Sport Line)
Cold Weather Pkg
Premium Package
Rear-view camera (Req. 508)
Park Distance Control (required)
36month 10k per year
Monthly 668.17
Net Cap Cost: $61500.00
MF: 0.00129
Upfront Sales Tax: $2,074.67
Acquisition Fee: $995.00
DMV Fees: $0.00
Tire Fee: $10.00
Insp Fee: $10.00
Doc Fee: $75.00
Other Fees: $0.00
Tax on Fees: $92.29
Cash Due on Lease: $3,925.13
Numbers for the 535xi in May are .00129 and 64%
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Would appreciate some feedback on the following lease offer that I have.
528i xDrive
MSRP: $55400
Selling Price: ~$48000
Leaset Term: 36 months
Miles per year: 12000
Residual: 63%
Money Factor: 0.00129
NJ Tax: 7%
The offer I have is $565 per month with taxes and fees all rolled in and paying only first months payment upfront. No down payment and no MSDs.
Thanks.
Base MF is being used, so that's good.
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Taxes: $1425
Acquisition Fee: $795
Doc Fees: $350
DMV: $315
So about $2885. Not sure if they are adding on a luxury tax of $220 so that would take it to $3105. With the taxes and fees rolled in does the $565 per month sound right? Selling may be less than $48000 and more in the mid to high $47000s at this point. The conversation is now revolving more around the total monthly payment.
Thanks again.
Don't negotiate on payment, negotiate the selling price and make sure you understand all the costs being added to that to get the net cap cost.
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MSRP $59100
Selling price $53100
For $2000, cash down- MF of 0.0015 and 64% Residual. Monthly payment comes to $560.
I see MF is much much higher than what i have seen here thus far.
What is the breakdown of the $2K at signing?
No sales tax in Oregon, correct?
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Have an offer on a 2015 528i with approx 3K miles (dealership loaner). MSRP is $55,700.
Have a lease offer on a 2015 528i 36mo/10k with approx 3K miles (dealership loaner). MSRP is $55,700. Their offer is $549 includes tax ($518 + 31)... As far as we can figure, they are giving us 10% off MSRP ($4650 'BMW loaner discount' + another $920). Also, $2K at inception includes 1st payment, taxes, dealer fees.....no cap reduction amount. Can you help us with a # that we should work towards? We know this offer is too high. Isn't there a $1500 anniversary credit also? Thank you for your help!
Thanks to all in advance
Do you have the residual for 2015 528xi for 24 months, 20k a year?
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