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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Let's run the numbers:
MSRP - $58,855
Cap cost (with taxes and fees, but without trade in) - $53,091
MF - .00110
24/15 residual - 59%
Those numbers give me a payment of $862/mo, before tax and trade in.
What's hurting here is the really low 24 month residual - 36/15 residual is only 6% lower, but 12 more months to spread out the payments. I get $701/mo for 36 months, all else being equal.
My questions are as follows:
What happened to the trade equity? Every $1000 of equity will reduce your payment by $42/mo for a 24 month lease, and about $28/mo for a 36 month lease.
Generally, we recommend against using equity as cap reduction - that money is lost if the car is stolen or totaled, and it masks the true cost of the lease. Better to have the dealer cut you a check for the equity, or use some of it as MSD to buy down the MF.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Lease Deal
Market Value 58,885.00
Discount Savings -4,385.00
Vehicle Selling Price 54,500.00
Accessories 199.00
Document Prep Fee 489.00
License / Title 872.50
Acquisition Fee 700.00
Tax on Collected Items 560.22
Total Cap 57,320.72
Down/Cash Cap Reduction -2,835.84
Rebate Savings -4,000.00
Net Cap 50,484.88
Base Payment 544.75
Monthly Tax 43.31
36 Month Payment 588.06
Down/Cash Cap Reduction 2,835.84
1st Payment 588.06
Due On Delivery 3,423.90
Rate 0.00070
Annual Miles 12,000
Residual % [58,885] 54+2=56%
Residual Amount 32,975.60
Tax: AZ 7.95% TAX 7.95 %
Please let me know.
Thanks!
You might consider using it for MSD and buy down the MF ...
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Also overall is this a good/fair deal or you think better is available?
We don't track selling prices, so can't help you with the strength of your pricing. You might want to get multiple dealers involved; that will help ensure you get the best pricing.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
His selling price is below the TrueCar values listed below for my area. So that seems to be ok.
Great PriceLess than $50,270
Good PriceLess than $51,460
Above Market$51,460 or more
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Lease Deal
Market Value 58,885.00
Discount Savings -4,385.00
Vehicle Selling Price 54,500.00
Accessories 199.00
Document Prep Fee 489.00
License / Title 872.50
Acquisition Fee 700.00
Tax on Collected Items 553.40
Total Cap 57,313.90
Down/Cash Cap Reduction -2,750.03
Rebate Savings -4,000.00
Net Cap 50,563.87
Base Payment 624.24
Monthly Tax 49.63
27 Month Payment 673.87
Down/Cash Cap Reduction 2,750.03
1st Payment 673.87
Due On Delivery 3,423.90
Rate 0.00070
Annual Miles 12,000
Residual % [58,885] 58+2=60%
Residual Amount 35,331.00
Tax: AZ 7.95% TAX 7.95 %
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I really like the 1-payment lease option, that way I dont have to worry any payments for 2 years.
Your thoughts?
If you dont mind me asking, how do you derive your numbers and (no offense intended) how valid are your numbers? Are you a Lexus "insider" ?
And, what incentive do we have to give you false information? You don't even know me - I'm just a dude on the 'net with the numbers you seek.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
If you're comfortable with the selling price, everything else looks to be in line.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Ok thanks! I just wanted to make sure the leasing numbers are correct and that im not getting screwed.
Do you know if the Lexus incentives will expire by Friday? And do you know if they might get better during Thanksgiving or Xmas?
No predictions on what will happen down the road, but Lexus does run their "December to Remember" promotion each year.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Also, would you know when the December to Remember incentives become available?
36month/7.5k miles
No info on December
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Please update with October numbers once available.
24/7.5k miles
36/7.5 miles
Any loyalty, lease cash available?
Any rates available on 2017?
$4200 lease cash
2017 numbers are available. Please request here:
http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/43186/lexus/gs-350/2017-lexus-gs-350-lease-questions/p1?new=1
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Looking on the lexus website shows $4000 lease cash instead of $4200..
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We don't have the specific incentives for NJ, but it's a good bet the lease cash is $4200.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
I am trying to get $479 as advertised with$3999 drive off, but to get that gross cap has to go down to bellow $49000.
I show 52% residual. But, I show the MF as either .00090 or .00110 - I don't have all regions, so no reason to disbelieve the .00060 you're getting quoted.
That $3999 is all cap reduction, which would add $110/mo to the payment. In addition to the $3999, you'd be responsible for all up front taxes and fees.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
MSRP $58,885.00
Sell price $51,523.27
Total rebate: $4450
Customer cash: 1999.99 (Due at delivery)
Residual: $32,975.60
Acq fee : $700
Doc fee $80
License/registeration : $433
MF: .00060
Term: 36/7.5k
Payment base : $443.52
Tax : $35.48
Payment w tax : $479.00
(Please calculate with Los angeles county 9% tax)
The other fees and first payment are coming out of your $1999 upfront (with about $300 left over)
I get $439.91+tax with those assumptions. Only a few dollars off.
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Also, how can I know if the rebate is taxed?
Most states tax rebates; call your department of revenue for confirmation
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Add 1% for F-Sport
Add 2% for 12K/yr
$4650 lease cash.
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They are using $4450 rebate.
And MF .00060
Why?
Those numbers could be correct for where you live.
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Please provide the MF and Residual for So. CA. for 36/12 in the F Sport.