I have a quick question...The MF and residual % provided above is based on leasing through Chrysler Capital? I understand Chrysler created a joint venture with Santander Capital to provide financing and leasing support to the network of dealers as well. Are the MF and residual % also the same for Santander Capital?
I have a quick question...The MF and residual % provided above is based on leasing through Chrysler Capital? I understand Chrysler created a joint venture with Santander Capital to provide financing and leasing support to the network of dealers as well. Are the MF and residual % also the same for Santander Capital?
Thanks,
MAC
The numbers we have are from Chrysler Capital.
No information on whether these numbers are the same for Santander.
MSRP: $43975 Cap Cost: $33954 Residual: $25954 Money Factor: .00291 (or 7%) from ALLY
Payment: $438 (includes tax)
36 month / 15k a year
I think they have more room, please share thoughts oh wise moderators!
I get $397/mo plus tax with those numbers - what state and tax rate is this?
Michaell --- Pennsylvania. I think it's like 6% -- not 100% sure. Do you see any room in the numbers otherwise??
Actually, PA imposes a 3% surcharge on the sales tax for leases - 9% total.
That takes my payment to $433/mo, pretty close to your $438/mo quote.
We don't track selling prices, nor do we know how big the incentives are for the ALLY lease.
How does that compare to the Crystler incentives/money factor?
The MF from Chrysler is way lower, but so is the residual. And, we don't have any incentive information available.
The 3rd party leases often price out better because of the incentives, but remember, a 3rd party bank is not as interested in maintaining your business after this lease is up. Which means they may be more strict about damage at the lease end inspection.
2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 4X4 36 Month Lease/12K Miles Charlotte, NC
MSRP: $45,985 Rebates: $4,572 ($750 Jeep lease rebate + EP pricing) Cap Cost: $41,413 Residual 57% MF: .00006 Due at signing: $0 Total due per month: $462.00(tax included in final number)
Part 2:
What would the MF and Residual % be for the same vehicle with 15k miles per year? I am leaning towards the 15k miles but not sure how much that will or should drive up pricing....
2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 4X4 36 Month Lease/12K Miles Charlotte, NC
MSRP: $45,985 Rebates: $4,572 ($750 Jeep lease rebate + EP pricing) Cap Cost: $41,413 Residual 57% MF: .00006 Due at signing: $0 Total due per month: $462.00(tax included in final number)
Part 2:
What would the MF and Residual % be for the same vehicle with 15k miles per year? I am leaning towards the 15k miles but not sure how much that will or should drive up pricing....
Thanks Guys! MAC
I get $426/mo.+tax on your deal
55% residual for 36/15. That will raise the monthly price by $25.50 + tax.
I am looking at this deal. Can you tell me if it looks like it all adds up? Its for 36/15 in FL. I'm newly divorced single mom and worried about getting taken advantage of. Thanks!
I am looking at this deal. Can you tell me if it looks like it all adds up? Its for 36/15 in FL. I'm newly divorced single mom and worried about getting taken advantage of. Thanks!
Going back to my scenario which I posted above, the actual "rental" cost on this 4x4 Limited is only like $8000. Why not just pay $8720 = $242 per month instead of messing around with the 7% cost of capital on the lease??? Looks like it adds a ton of cost ($242 vs. $438)???
BTW i have improved on this number below a little bit. Trying to make a deal this weekend. Thanks in advance.
MSRP: $43975 Cap Cost: $33954 Residual: $25945 Money Factor: .00291 (or 7%) from ALLY
Going back to my scenario which I posted above, the actual "rental" cost on this 4x4 Limited is only like $8000. Why not just pay $8720 = $242 per month instead of messing around with the 7% cost of capital on the lease??? Looks like it adds a ton of cost ($242 vs. $438)???
BTW i have improved on this number below a little bit. Trying to make a deal this weekend. Thanks in advance.
MSRP: $43975 Cap Cost: $33954 Residual: $25945 Money Factor: .00291 (or 7%) from ALLY
Payment: $438 (includes tax = 9% in Pennsylvania)
36 month / 15k a year
I'm not sure I understand the nature of your question.
With your updated numbers, I get $432/mo tax inclusive.
Going back to my scenario which I posted above, the actual "rental" cost on this 4x4 Limited is only like $8000. Why not just pay $8720 = $242 per month instead of messing around with the 7% cost of capital on the lease??? Looks like it adds a ton of cost ($242 vs. $438)???
BTW i have improved on this number below a little bit. Trying to make a deal this weekend. Thanks in advance.
MSRP: $43975 Cap Cost: $33954 Residual: $25945 Money Factor: .00291 (or 7%) from ALLY
Payment: $438 (includes tax = 9% in Pennsylvania)
36 month / 15k a year
I'm not sure I understand the nature of your question.
With your updated numbers, I get $432/mo tax inclusive.
I was just confirming my numbers in regards to the entire "rental" cost of $8720 (Cap Cost - Residual + Tax) vs. $15552 ($432*36). Does this make sense?
Going back to my scenario which I posted above, the actual "rental" cost on this 4x4 Limited is only like $8000. Why not just pay $8720 = $242 per month instead of messing around with the 7% cost of capital on the lease??? Looks like it adds a ton of cost ($242 vs. $438)???
BTW i have improved on this number below a little bit. Trying to make a deal this weekend. Thanks in advance.
MSRP: $43975 Cap Cost: $33954 Residual: $25945 Money Factor: .00291 (or 7%) from ALLY
Payment: $438 (includes tax = 9% in Pennsylvania)
36 month / 15k a year
I'm not sure I understand the nature of your question.
With your updated numbers, I get $432/mo tax inclusive.
I was just confirming my numbers in regards to the entire "rental" cost of $8720 (Cap Cost - Residual + Tax) vs. $15552 ($432*36). Does this make sense?
Right, but you still have to pay the rent charge (interest) on the money you are borrowing. And, given the high MF, that is a large amount. No way around it.
MSRP: $39,785 Rebates: $4,300 Cap Cost: $35,485 Residual 54% MF: .00038 Due at signing: $0 Total due per month: $465.00(all taxes, registration / doc fees included in Final number )
Is $465 per month with zero down a good deal with tier1 credit? (800+)?
MSRP: $39,785 Rebates: $4,300 Cap Cost: $35,485 Residual 54% MF: .00038 Due at signing: $0 Total due per month: $465.00(all taxes, registration / doc fees included in Final number )
Is $465 per month with zero down a good deal with tier1 credit? (800+)?
Thanks J
If through Chrysler Capital, we show .00009 MF and 57% residual
If this is through an independent bank, we don't have the numbers. Are there actually $4300 in rebates or does that include a dealer discount? If it's all rebates, why no discount from MSRP?
What is the MF/Res of the following models for 36/12k in Phoenix, AZ?
Limited 4x4 MSRP: $49,725
Overland 4x4 MSRP: $51,125
Thanks
LTD: .00006 MF and 57% residual OVL: .00007 MF and 56% residual
I was at the dealership last night and they tried to lease me an Overland with a MF of .0005. Thanks to your tip, they lowered it to .00007. Is this still a good deal? My hand calculations were much lower...
What is the standard acquisition fee? They quoted $595. doc fee $399 License Fee $801.28, Acq fee $595
What is the MF/Res of the following models for 36/12k in Phoenix, AZ?
Limited 4x4 MSRP: $49,725
Overland 4x4 MSRP: $51,125
Thanks
LTD: .00006 MF and 57% residual OVL: .00007 MF and 56% residual
I was at the dealership last night and they tried to lease me an Overland with a MF of .0005. Thanks to your tip, they lowered it to .00007. Is this still a good deal? My hand calculations were much lower...
What is the standard acquisition fee? They quoted $595. doc fee $399 License Fee $801.28, Acq fee $595
MSRP: $39,785 Rebates: $4,300 Cap Cost: $35,485 Residual 54% MF: .00038 Due at signing: $0 Total due per month: $465.00(all taxes, registration / doc fees included in Final number )
Is $465 per month with zero down a good deal with tier1 credit? (800+)?
Thanks J
If through Chrysler Capital, we show .00009 MF and 57% residual
If this is through an independent bank, we don't have the numbers. Are there actually $4300 in rebates or does that include a dealer discount? If it's all rebates, why no discount from MSRP?
Do you really need to hire a broker for $300?
Thank you so much for reply!
Let me find out more info, these numbers were explained over the phone by the broker, Not sure which bank the broker is going through but it does seem off with your numbers for MF and RV
I just found out about this section of Edmunds website recently and still figuring out MF and RV details.
I believe the only rebate is $1250 at the moment from Jeep until end of the month for lease deals. (its $2k for purchase deals) The rest Im guessing is dealer discount which on their website is showing as various line items like $500 COLLEGE $500 MILITARY CASH $1000 LEASE Conquest $1000 CHRYSLER cash capital $1000 RETURNING LESEE CASH
Maybe dealer is extending this to me as a dealer discount though i don't tecnically qualify for any of these offers.
Do I need a broker? I'm not sure, never leased a new car before, so I thought some experienced help might avoid shady car salesman tactics - broker said he could get best price and lease deal and speak directly with fleet manager but that's after I agree to deal, so nothing has been paid yet.
I tried asking for a fleet manager at the Jeep Dealer on my first day of shopping when i went into dealer and salesman said Jeep don't have fleet managers?
Confused but will try again to get more defined numbers and get back to you
What is the MF/Res of the following models for 36/12k in Phoenix, AZ?
Limited 4x4 MSRP: $49,725
Overland 4x4 MSRP: $51,125
Thanks
LTD: .00006 MF and 57% residual OVL: .00007 MF and 56% residual
I was at the dealership last night and they tried to lease me an Overland with a MF of .0005. Thanks to your tip, they lowered it to .00007. Is this still a good deal? My hand calculations were much lower...
What is the standard acquisition fee? They quoted $595. doc fee $399 License Fee $801.28, Acq fee $595
The only up front cash we recommend is the first payment and DMV costs - put everything else into the lease payment.
With your MSRP and selling price (pre $4K down), I get $539/mo before tax
Thank you!
They've come back and quoted $604/mo pre-tax. Matching RF and res. I don't understand why their price could be so high. Where are they hiding those extra costs? I am trading in a car, and only putting down your reccomended first payment and DMV costs from that, while getting the remaining balance cash back. Of course, they're taking the small amount that I owe on the car. I don't believe there is anything there...
What is the MF/Res of the following models for 36/12k in Phoenix, AZ?
Limited 4x4 MSRP: $49,725
Overland 4x4 MSRP: $51,125
Thanks
LTD: .00006 MF and 57% residual OVL: .00007 MF and 56% residual
I was at the dealership last night and they tried to lease me an Overland with a MF of .0005. Thanks to your tip, they lowered it to .00007. Is this still a good deal? My hand calculations were much lower...
What is the standard acquisition fee? They quoted $595. doc fee $399 License Fee $801.28, Acq fee $595
The only up front cash we recommend is the first payment and DMV costs - put everything else into the lease payment.
With your MSRP and selling price (pre $4K down), I get $539/mo before tax
Thank you!
They've come back and quoted $604/mo pre-tax. Matching RF and res. I don't understand why their price could be so high. Where are they hiding those extra costs? I am trading in a car, and only putting down your reccomended first payment and DMV costs from that, while getting the remaining balance cash back. Of course, they're taking the small amount that I owe on the car. I don't believe there is anything there...
I appreciate all the advice!
Confirm the adjusted cap cost the dealer is using - if higher than the $48,250 you shared with me, have them explain how they got to their number.
If the MF and residual match what I've stated, then the only variable left is the price.
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Hi Michaell,
All models are 4x4
Trailhawk: .00020 MF and 57% residual
Altitude: .00002 MF and 58% residual
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Can you please post the RV and MF for 2017 Grand Cherokee Limited and Overland 4x2. 36 mo with 12k and 15k options in California?
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LTD - .00009 and 54%
OVR - .00006 and 52%
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I have a quick question...The MF and residual % provided above is based on leasing through Chrysler Capital? I understand Chrysler created a joint venture with Santander Capital to provide financing and leasing support to the network of dealers as well. Are the MF and residual % also the same for Santander Capital?
Thanks,
MAC
No information on whether these numbers are the same for Santander.
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MSRP: $43975
Cap Cost: $33954
Residual: $25954
Money Factor: .00291 (or 7%) from ALLY
Payment: $438 (includes tax)
36 month / 15k a year
I think they have more room, please share thoughts oh wise moderators!
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That takes my payment to $433/mo, pretty close to your $438/mo quote.
We don't track selling prices, nor do we know how big the incentives are for the ALLY lease.
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The 3rd party leases often price out better because of the incentives, but remember, a 3rd party bank is not as interested in maintaining your business after this lease is up. Which means they may be more strict about damage at the lease end inspection.
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could you please tell me the MF and residual for Loredo RWD 36m/ 12k in Florida.
thank you !
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2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 4X4
36 Month Lease/12K Miles
Charlotte, NC
MSRP: $45,985
Rebates: $4,572 ($750 Jeep lease rebate + EP pricing)
Cap Cost: $41,413
Residual 57%
MF: .00006
Due at signing: $0
Total due per month: $462.00(tax included in final number)
Part 2:
What would the MF and Residual % be for the same vehicle with 15k miles per year? I am leaning towards the 15k miles but not sure how much that will or should drive up pricing....
Thanks Guys!
MAC
55% residual for 36/15.
That will raise the monthly price by $25.50 + tax.
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Limited 4x4
MSRP: $49,725
Overland 4x4
MSRP: $51,125
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OVL: .00007 MF and 56% residual
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36/15k
From the dealer
MSRP - $47,080
- $44,795
- $595 - (Ivory Tri-coat color)
- $595 - Blind spot and cross path detection
Term - 36 months
Mileage - 15k
Negotiated - $42,180
Residual value - $24,481.60 (52%)
MF - 0.0006
Acquisition fee - $0
Taxable fee - $66.50
Battery - $1.50
Tax - $162.86
Dealer fee - $689
0 down - $579/month including tax (Sign and Drive with $0 drive off)
1500 down - $533/month including tax
3000 down - $490/month including tax
Is this a good deal ? or could I do better ?
Do Jeep dealers let you put down multiple SD to lower the MF like BMW ? If yes, is 7 the max ?
I went to a local Audi dealer and they told me only BMW does this.
Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk 4x4 2017
36 mos / 10K
California
+ Customer Preferred Pkg 23J: $2,695
+ Jeep Active Safety Group: $1,495
+ Uconnect 8.4: $450
+ Blind Spot/Cross Nav: $595
+ Destination Charge: $995
MSRP $49,225
Dealer Discount to -$2,075
Cap Cost $47,150
Add Ons $296
Dealer & State Fees $527
Total w Fees $49,679.94
Money Factor: Dealer using 3rd party bank w 6.75% rate
- 6.75%/2400 = 0.000028125 Correct??
Residual: 64% ($31,504)
Sales Tax $1,707.19
Dealer Fees $526.75
Rebate $6,500
Monthly Payment w zero down = $551
Monthly Payment w $1k down = $518
2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee Altitude 4x2 with Sunroof & upgraded radio (http://www.suncoastcjd.com/new/Jeep/2017-Jeep-Grand+Cherokee-27158dfe0a0e0ae77948e5c882424d6c.htm)
MSRP $38,880
Cap Cost $34,194
$2000 down (includes 1st payment of $399, tag $266.50, tax $192.50, delivery fee $747.93)
He says residual is $21,384 and money factor is.00039.
Monthly payment is $399 including tax
Under the rebate section he has $750 to dealer, $1k returning lease rebate (I have a current jeep lease) and TDM (no clue what this is) $1k.
Using your selling price as the cap cost, I get $496/mo before tax. 7% in Florida? If so, $530/mo
I don't see the acquisition fee listed by the dealer - that is, well, actually, the acquisition fee is waived this month for that trim level.
Therefore, the up front costs are about $920.
Confirm the adjusted cap cost with the dealer. They could also be marking up the MF for more profit.
No security deposits available from Chrysler.
Audi does offer then, however.
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What is the adjusted cap cost, after fees and incentives are applied?
The $1707 is likely the tax on the incentives. What is the tax rate where you live?
I'd also ask about the dealer fees; CA caps them at $80. Does that include DMV costs?
Not enough information to make any informed decisions about your deal.
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Using your MSRP and cap cost, I get a payment of $366/mo plus tax.
What is the tax rate where you live?
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'17 Overland 4x4, V6 and V8
'17 Limited 4x4, V6 and V8
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Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk 4x4 2017
36 mos / 10K
California
+ Customer Preferred Pkg 23J: $2,695
+ Jeep Active Safety Group: $1,495
+ Uconnect 8.4: $450
+ Blind Spot/Cross Nav: $595
+ Destination Charge: $995
MSRP $49,225
Cap Cost $47,150
+ Theft Registration $296
+ License Fee $409
+ Documentation Fee $80
+ Government Fee $37.75
- Rebate $6.500 (applied as down payment)
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Adjusted Cap Cost: $43,179.94
Money Factor: 00.281
Residual: 64% ($31,504)
Sales Tax $1,707.19
Tax Rate: 7.25%
Monthly Payment w zero down = $551
Monthly Payment w $1k down = $518
Is that sufficient info on the deal? Thanks in advance!
LTD - .00006 and 57%
Engine choice doesn't matter, unless it's the diesel.
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Your quote looks pretty good by comparison.
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Going back to my scenario which I posted above, the actual "rental" cost on this 4x4 Limited is only like $8000.
Why not just pay $8720 = $242 per month instead of messing around with the 7% cost of capital on the lease??? Looks like it adds a ton of cost ($242 vs. $438)???
BTW i have improved on this number below a little bit. Trying to make a deal this weekend. Thanks in advance.
MSRP: $43975
Cap Cost: $33954
Residual: $25945
Money Factor: .00291 (or 7%) from ALLY
Payment: $438 (includes tax = 9% in Pennsylvania)
36 month / 15k a year
With your updated numbers, I get $432/mo tax inclusive.
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Newbie to lease but wanted to see if this lease proposal by independent auto broker through local jeep dealer is ok. I have 800+ credit score.
($300 service fee to auto broker not included)
2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 4X2 Base Price: $37,995
Exterior Color: Granite Crystal Metallic Clear Coat Exterior Paint
w / Customer Preferred Package 2BH
Uconnect® 8.4 - $795
DESTINATION CHARGE $995
TOTAL PRICE: * $39,785
36 Month Lease/10K Miles
Los Angeles, CA
MSRP: $39,785
Rebates: $4,300
Cap Cost: $35,485
Residual 54%
MF: .00038
Due at signing: $0
Total due per month: $465.00(all taxes, registration / doc fees included in Final number )
Is $465 per month with zero down a good deal with tier1 credit? (800+)?
Thanks
J
If this is through an independent bank, we don't have the numbers.
Are there actually $4300 in rebates or does that include a dealer discount?
If it's all rebates, why no discount from MSRP?
Do you really need to hire a broker for $300?
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What is the standard acquisition fee? They quoted $595.
doc fee $399
License Fee $801.28,
Acq fee $595
MSRP: $51,875
Dealer discount $2875
Rebate of $750
Selling Price: $48,250
Down Payment: $4k
Unpaid Balance: $45,450.28
Term: 36 month
Payment/month: $555.22
Phoenix, AZ
The only up front cash we recommend is the first payment and DMV costs - put everything else into the lease payment.
With your MSRP and selling price (pre $4K down), I get $539/mo before tax
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Let me find out more info, these numbers were explained over the phone by the broker,
Not sure which bank the broker is going through but it does seem off with your numbers for MF and RV
I just found out about this section of Edmunds website recently and still figuring out MF and RV details.
I believe the only rebate is $1250 at the moment from Jeep until end of the month for lease deals.
(its $2k for purchase deals)
The rest Im guessing is dealer discount which on their website is showing as various line items like
$500 COLLEGE
$500 MILITARY CASH
$1000 LEASE Conquest
$1000 CHRYSLER cash capital
$1000 RETURNING LESEE CASH
Maybe dealer is extending this to me as a dealer discount though i don't tecnically qualify for any of these offers.
Do I need a broker?
I'm not sure, never leased a new car before, so I thought some experienced help might avoid shady car salesman tactics - broker said he could get best price and lease deal and speak directly with fleet manager but that's after I agree to deal, so nothing has been paid yet.
I tried asking for a fleet manager at the Jeep Dealer on my first day of shopping when i went into dealer and salesman said Jeep don't have fleet managers?
Confused but will try again to get more defined numbers and get back to you
Thanks again.
J
They've come back and quoted $604/mo pre-tax. Matching RF and res. I don't understand why their price could be so high. Where are they hiding those extra costs? I am trading in a car, and only putting down your reccomended first payment and DMV costs from that, while getting the remaining balance cash back. Of course, they're taking the small amount that I owe on the car. I don't believe there is anything there...
I appreciate all the advice!
If the MF and residual match what I've stated, then the only variable left is the price.
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Thanks in Advance !
.00004 and 50% for 36 months, 15,000 miles per year
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Add 1% for 10K
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