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laurasdada · April 2018

28firefighter said:

Mr_Shiftright said:
Best SB in a while! And let's face it, Philly needed a break.
We didn't need a break. We were just better.

Yup. Outplayed and outcoached. And, as I've noted before, if you're a football fan, you want the Pats in the SB every year. Win or lose, it's always an entertaining game (e.g. helmet catches, ballet catches, end zone interceptions, game winning filed goals, passing for 500 yards...and losing!).

driver100 · April 2018

Stole the the 2 lines on the side from a C Class:

Mr_Shiftright · April 2018

Armies are not run by the sharpest tools in the toolbox. Whenever you get brass hats who deal mostly in drawing room strategy, and then for some reason they get a bug to try and run things on the localized tactical level, you're going to have a Little Bighorn party. Or you get sent to war in a Sherman tank.

I suppose we've also seen this in football!

qbrozen · April 2018

driver100 said:

Stole the the 2 lines on the side from a C Class:

Which benz lifted from the z4.

imidazol97 · April 2018

driver100 said:
Stole the the 2 lines on the side from a C Class:

Good try again. Looks like they stole it from the 2016-17-18 Malibu.

https://www.rydellchev.com/assets/stock/colormatched_01/white/640/cc_2018chc110002_01_640/cc_2018chc110002_01_640_g7q.jpg

imidazol97 · April 2018

driver100 said:
Stole the the 2 lines on the side from a C Class:

Looks like they stole it from the 2016-17-18 Malibu

Mr_Shiftright · April 2018

Everybody stole either from Audi in the 90s or the BMW 3 Series.

driver100 · April 2018

qbrozen said:

driver100 said:

Stole the the 2 lines on the side from a C Class:

Which benz lifted from the z4.

That doesn't count, it only goes back one door length.

driver100 · April 2018

2015 C Class

ab348 · April 2018

You're all wrong. M-B stole it from the Sonata.

jmonroe · April 2018

ab348 said:
You're all wrong. M-B stole it from the Sonata.

Man, what a let down. Just when I had myself convinced that I should switch brands, I find out I'm with the front runner. More reliability, less expense and now styling. Some things should remain confidential on this site .

jmonroe

oldfarmer50 · April 2018

I'm jealous. Just found out the guy at the mom and pop pizza place owns a C7 Corvette.

Gotta learn how to make pizza.

Michaell · April 2018

oldfarmer50 said:
I'm jealous. Just found out the guy at the mom and pop pizza place owns a C7 Corvette.

Gotta learn how to make pizza.

"The guy at..." or "The owner of..."?

Kind of a big difference....

driver100 · April 2018

ab348 said:
You're all wrong. M-B stole it from the Sonata.

Sonatas goes the wrong way....back to front.

driver100 · April 2018

jmonroe said:

ab348 said:
You're all wrong. M-B stole it from the Sonata.

Man, what a let down. Just when I had myself convinced that I should switch brands, I find out I'm with the front runner. More reliability, less expense and now styling. Some things should remain confidential on this site .

jmonroe

and, you have a car that nobody gets jealous about, because it is a wannabe. btw....they made the line backwards, couldn't copy it right.

jmonroe · April 2018

driver100 said:

jmonroe said:

ab348 said:
You're all wrong. M-B stole it from the Sonata.

Man, what a let down. Just when I had myself convinced that I should switch brands, I find out I'm with the front runner. More reliability, less expense and now styling. Some things should remain confidential on this site .

jmonroe
and, you have a car that nobody gets jealous about, because it is a wannabe. btw....they made the line backwards, couldn't copy it right.

That's known as an improvement. It's not who does it first, it's who improves it the best. In other words, if you're going to copy, make sure you get it right.

jmonroe

abacomike · April 2018

oldfarmer50 said:

I'm jealous. Just found out the guy at the mom and pop pizza place owns a C7 Corvette. Gotta learn how to make pizza.

I prefer eating pizza as opposed to making pizza.

snakeweasel · April 2018

Mr_Shiftright said:
Armies are not run by the sharpest tools in the toolbox. Whenever you get brass hats who deal mostly in drawing room strategy, and then for some reason they get a bug to try and run things on the localized tactical level, you're going to have a Little Bighorn party. Or you get sent to war in a Sherman tank.

I suppose we've also seen this in football!

The thing about using single shot rifles was that the top brass was worried that troops would waste ammo if they had repeating rifles. Because of that you get things like Little Big Horn where your army with single shot rifles are going against repeater rifles. Or things like Isandlwana where you don't have the fire power to repulse large numbers of men with spears (you get to shoot a couple of times then use your rifle as a club).

The thing about the Sherman tank was that during WWII the idea was that tanks would not engage other tanks. They had tank destroyers that were supposed to engage tanks, these were specialized armored vehicles designed to take out tanks. The problem was that tanks were deployed front lines and came against other tanks and had to be withdrawn and the tank destroyers brought up. This meant that tanks went up against tanks more often than they wanted. After WWII they went to multi purpose tanks.

ab348 · April 2018

driver100 said:

ab348 said:
You're all wrong. M-B stole it from the Sonata.

Sonatas goes the wrong way....back to front.

They're closer to the Malibu's than the C-class ones, which extend on to the front fenders.

driver100 · April 2018

So the Malibu copied the Hyundai....and the C Class is the original....on a 4 door car.

This conversation is getting ridiculous.

fintail · April 2018

And Sonata stole their racy but dull roofline from the CLS which was introduced in 2005, or various Audis going back 20 years, take your pick. Hyunkia hired Schreyer to give their cars a desperately needed departure from their KDM flair, so it shouldn't be a surprise.

Current C entered production in February 2014, FWIW.

tbirdmarco · April 2018

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LGNcym-zAFk

tbirdmarco · April 2018

Enjoyed reading all above and who copied who first ha ha I have no idea on this one was a good laugh though

tbirdmarco · April 2018

Old former corn start making those pizzas I need a Corvette to the flea ha ha Ha

tbirdmarco · April 2018

Thank you driver 100 same to you man enjoy your weekend and next time I’m in your area I’ll let you know and yes you got the second please I mentioned my posting correct yes

tbirdmarco · April 2018

And yes Mike mentioned from others I was told it was many Rusty cars driving around wouldn’t matter to me I would have no clue if no one told me or him walk really up to them when they were port Ha ha ha it is what it is

oldfarmer50 · April 2018

abacomike said:

oldfarmer50 said:

I'm jealous. Just found out the guy at the mom and pop pizza place owns a C7 Corvette.

Gotta learn how to make pizza.

I prefer eating pizza as opposed to making pizza.

I'd give up eating pizza for a C7. And Mitchell was right, it's the owner's but this place is a hole in the wall operation so now I'm wondering if there's a gambling parlor in the back.

Michaell · April 2018

oldfarmer50 said:

abacomike said:

oldfarmer50 said:

I'm jealous. Just found out the guy at the mom and pop pizza place owns a C7 Corvette.

Gotta learn how to make pizza.

I prefer eating pizza as opposed to making pizza.

I'd give up eating pizza for a C7. And Mitchell was right, it's the owner's but this place is a hole in the wall operation so now I'm wondering if there's a gambling parlor in the back.

Who's this "Mitchell" guy you're talking about?

oldfarmer50 · April 2018

Michaell said:

oldfarmer50 said:

abacomike said:

oldfarmer50 said:

I'm jealous. Just found out the guy at the mom and pop pizza place owns a C7 Corvette.

Gotta learn how to make pizza.

I prefer eating pizza as opposed to making pizza.
I'd give up eating pizza for a C7. And Mitchell was right, it's the owner's but this place is a hole in the wall operation so now I'm wondering if there's a gambling parlor in the back.

Who's this "Mitchell" guy you're talking about?

Marco isn't the only one with spelling problems!

tbirdmarco · April 2018

Lol lol lol

tbirdmarco · April 2018

I think I’ll give up eating pizza or anything for one of those to be honest

ab348 · April 2018

driver100 said:

This conversation is getting ridiculous.

You started it!!!

snakeweasel · April 2018

oldfarmer50 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

I'm jealous. Just found out the guy at the mom and pop pizza place owns a C7 Corvette. Gotta learn how to make pizza.

I prefer eating pizza as opposed to making pizza.
I'd give up eating pizza for a C7. And Mitchell was right, it's the owner's but this place is a hole in the wall operation so now I'm wondering if there's a gambling parlor in the back.
Who's this "Mitchell" guy you're talking about?
Marco isn't the only one with spelling problems!

Bad spellers of the world untie!

bwia · April 2018

abacomike said:
I was watching the first round of the Masters Tournament on ESPN this afternoon and became totally mesmerized by Jordan Spieth. He birdied 5 holes in a row on the back nine - a true phenom in the world of golf.

I have tickets for Saturday and Sunday for the Players Championship (May 12th and May 13th) at TPC Sawgrass in Ponte Vedra Beach. Looking forward to seeing Jordan Spieth, Justin Thomas, Rickie Fowler, Tiger Woods and Rory McIlroy live and in person. I am amazed at how well these guys play golf.

@abacomike, just could't resist: Reed has Tiger by the tail.

In a sports related story, 23 year old all-rounder and rookie sensation Shohei Ohtani has hit home runs in 3 consecutive games and has won his first pitching game. Ohtani was profiled on 60 Minutes last year and he was compared favorably to Babe Ruth.

So far he has not disappointed but I hope the As will not burn him out pitching too many innings or playing in too many games.

abacomike · April 2018

Got a call from the dealership in West Palm Beach where I got my S450. It seems they just sold my 2017 BMW 740i (the trade-in) but are having trouble getting the title reissued to the new owner. It seems they need a signed affidavit from the previous owner attesting to the fact that the BMW did not sustain any hurricane damage during Irma last September.

So I am going to drive up there this morning to sign the affidavit - but before doing so, I am going to read that document very, very carefully. Unless it states that prior to November 10, 2017 (date I traded the car) and only while I owned the vehicle, the car did not sustain any damage due to Hurricane Irma, to the best of my knowledge. I sure don’t want anyone coming after me if the car was damaged prior to my ownership or after I traded the car in to the Mercedes dealership.

If the document does not state the above, either they add it as an addendum to the disclosure or I will refuse to sign it. Got to be so careful these days due to the litigious nature of our society.

ab348 · April 2018

bwia said:

In a sports related story, 23 year old all-rounder and rookie sensation Shohei Ohtani has hit home runs in 3 consecutive games and has won his first pitching game. Ohtani was profiled on 60 Minutes last year and he was compared favorably to Babe Ruth.

So far he has not disappointed but I hope the As will not burn him out pitching too many innings or playing in too many games.

I happened to turn on the Angels game the other night when he was the DH and hit a 3-run homer. His swing doesn't look like a power hitter's swing and in fact looks a lot like Ichiro's foot-in-the-bucket slap swing, but he generates a lot of power.

imidazol97 · April 2018

driver100 said:
So the Malibu copied the Hyundai....and the C Class is the original....on a 4 door car.

This conversation is getting ridiculous.

Well, if I were designed the update for the Malibu and I wanted to share a design with a MB, it would be the E class rather than the inexpensive C's.

jmonroe · April 2018

bwia said:

abacomike said:
I was watching the first round of the Masters Tournament on ESPN this afternoon and became totally mesmerized by Jordan Spieth. He birdied 5 holes in a row on the back nine - a true phenom in the world of golf.

I have tickets for Saturday and Sunday for the Players Championship (May 12th and May 13th) at TPC Sawgrass in Ponte Vedra Beach. Looking forward to seeing Jordan Spieth, Justin Thomas, Rickie Fowler, Tiger Woods and Rory McIlroy live and in person. I am amazed at how well these guys play golf.
@abacomike, just could't resist: Reed has Tiger by the tail.

In a sports related story, 23 year old all-rounder and rookie sensation Shohei Ohtani has hit home runs in 3 consecutive games and has won his first pitching game. Ohtani was profiled on 60 Minutes last year and he was compared favorably to Babe Ruth.

So far he has not disappointed but I hope the As will not burn him out pitching too many innings or playing in too many games.

I'm not picking on you but I have an opinion about what you have said.

Baseball is a business, a cutthroat business at that. Therefore, the owner will do what is best for his pocket and winning and in that order. Arms and bats are made to be used. You have to use an arm while there is still meat on it before it turns to useless fat. Bats will break and wear out when they get old. It is better to get rid of a player a year too early than to pay him to sit on the bench for a year or two after he is used up.

Like it or not that is the real world of baseball and of all professional sports.

Comparing him to Babe Ruth is laughable but it is typical of the talking heads that report on the games today. The kid hasn't even finished one year of pro ball and the comparison has already started. Talk is, like they say, "cheap".

jmonroe

ab348 · April 2018

jmonroe said:

Comparing him to Babe Ruth is laughable but it is typical of the talking heads that report on the games today. The kid hasn't even finished one year of pro ball and the comparison has already started. Talk is, like they say, "cheap".

Just like the media declaring Tiger the favorite for the Masters a few weeks ago. It is obvious that the Valspar is not Augusta National, but the media is about clicks and ratings more than ever.

oldfarmer50 · April 2018

abacomike said:
Got a call from the dealership in West Palm Beach where I got my S450. It seems they just sold my 2017 BMW 740i (the trade-in) but are having trouble getting the title reissued to the new owner. It seems they need a signed affidavit from the previous owner attesting to the fact that the BMW did not sustain any hurricane damage during Irma last September.

So I am going to drive up there this morning to sign the affidavit - but before doing so, I am going to read that document very, very carefully. Unless it states that prior to November 10, 2017 (date I traded the car) and only while I owned the vehicle, the car did not sustain any damage due to Hurricane Irma, to the best of my knowledge. I sure don’t want anyone coming after me if the car was damaged prior to my ownership or after I traded the car in to the Mercedes dealership.

If the document does not state the above, either they add it as an addendum to the disclosure or I will refuse to sign it. Got to be so careful these days due to the litigious nature of our society.

That's interesting Mike. Does that apply to all cars sold in Florida or just when dealers are involved. I'd feel better buying a private sale vehicle if it came with an affidavit of that type.

Of course the crooks would find a way around it but it might stop grandma from "forgetting" to tell you that her Buick got blown into the canal during the storm.

driver100 · April 2018

jmonroe said:

bwia said:

abacomike said:
I was watching the first round of the Masters Tournament on ESPN this afternoon and became totally mesmerized by Jordan Spieth. He birdied 5 holes in a row on the back nine - a true phenom in the world of golf.

I have tickets for Saturday and Sunday for the Players Championship (May 12th and May 13th) at TPC Sawgrass in Ponte Vedra Beach. Looking forward to seeing Jordan Spieth, Justin Thomas, Rickie Fowler, Tiger Woods and Rory McIlroy live and in person. I am amazed at how well these guys play golf.
@abacomike, just could't resist: Reed has Tiger by the tail.

In a sports related story, 23 year old all-rounder and rookie sensation Shohei Ohtani has hit home runs in 3 consecutive games and has won his first pitching game. Ohtani was profiled on 60 Minutes last year and he was compared favorably to Babe Ruth.

So far he has not disappointed but I hope the As will not burn him out pitching too many innings or playing in too many games.
I'm not picking on you but I have an opinion about what you have said.

Baseball is a business, a cutthroat business at that. Therefore, the owner will do what is best for his pocket and winning and in that order. Arms and bats are made to be used. You have to use an arm while there is still meat on it before it turns to useless fat. Bats will break and wear out when they get old. It is better to get rid of a player a year too early than to pay him to sit on the bench for a year or two after he is used up.

Like it or not that is the real world of baseball and of all professional sports.

Comparing him to Babe Ruth is laughable but it is typical of the talking heads that report on the games today. The kid hasn't even finished one year of pro ball and the comparison has already started. Talk is, like they say, "cheap".

jmonroe

But, how do you really feel about the kid?

driver100 · April 2018

ab348 said:

driver100 said:

This conversation is getting ridiculous.

You started it!!!

I know...I wouldn't have said it was getting ridiculous if someone else started it....it wouldn't be PC.

driver100 · April 2018

imidazol97 said:

driver100 said:
So the Malibu copied the Hyundai....and the C Class is the original....on a 4 door car.

This conversation is getting ridiculous.
Well, if I were designed the update for the Malibu and I wanted to share a design with a MB, it would be the E class rather than the inexpensive C's.

"Inexpensive C Class".....OK. But for some reason they wanted to copy a car in a similar category.

and they took the back window from a Kia.

Mr_Shiftright · April 2018

If you look closely at those photos, you'll see the old "Audi Arc" in the roofline, and the BMW "trunk bustle".

These are 2 decade-old (or more) styling motifs that won't go away.

driver100 · April 2018

abacomike said:
Got a call from the dealership in West Palm Beach where I got my S450. It seems they just sold my 2017 BMW 740i (the trade-in) but are having trouble getting the title reissued to the new owner. It seems they need a signed affidavit from the previous owner attesting to the fact that the BMW did not sustain any hurricane damage during Irma last September.

So I am going to drive up there this morning to sign the affidavit - but before doing so, I am going to read that document very, very carefully. Unless it states that prior to November 10, 2017 (date I traded the car) and only while I owned the vehicle, the car did not sustain any damage due to Hurricane Irma, to the best of my knowledge. I sure don’t want anyone coming after me if the car was damaged prior to my ownership or after I traded the car in to the Mercedes dealership.

If the document does not state the above, either they add it as an addendum to the disclosure or I will refuse to sign it. Got to be so careful these days due to the litigious nature of our society.

Read carefully Mike, you got nothing to gain and something to possibly lose. In a way, I don't blame the new buyer of wanting it guaranteed. Isn't Nov 10 to early April a long time for a car to sell, though I doubt it would be an easy sell....has to have just the right buyer shopping at an MB dealer?

I will say, when we traded in our 2008 BMW for a 2013 Audi A4 the Audi dealer said they could give us more for the BMW than the BMW dealer because the BMW dealer would have to go over it carefully and then sell it as a CPO with a warranty. The Audi dealer said all he had to do was wash it and put it on his lot.

Mr_Shiftright · April 2018

By all means read it carefully. If something weird happens, and lawsuits fly, they often drag EVERYBODY into it, even if your liability is very remote.

jmonroe · April 2018

abacomike said:
Got a call from the dealership in West Palm Beach where I got my S450. It seems they just sold my 2017 BMW 740i (the trade-in) but are having trouble getting the title reissued to the new owner. It seems they need a signed affidavit from the previous owner attesting to the fact that the BMW did not sustain any hurricane damage during Irma last September.

So I am going to drive up there this morning to sign the affidavit - but before doing so, I am going to read that document very, very carefully. Unless it states that prior to November 10, 2017 (date I traded the car) and only while I owned the vehicle, the car did not sustain any damage due to Hurricane Irma, to the best of my knowledge. I sure don’t want anyone coming after me if the car was damaged prior to my ownership or after I traded the car in to the Mercedes dealership.

If the document does not state the above, either they add it as an addendum to the disclosure or I will refuse to sign it. Got to be so careful these days due to the litigious nature of our society.

This sounds like it is a problem for the dealer to solve. Like @driver100 said, there isn't anything good that can come out of this for you. On top of that, why should you be the one that has to do the running? If I would do it and that is a big IF, unless you want to go for a drive, they would be coming to my place.

jmonroe

Mr_Shiftright · April 2018

That's a good point. Have them Fedex the forms to you.

jmonroe · April 2018

driver100 said:

jmonroe said:

bwia said:

abacomike said:
I was watching the first round of the Masters Tournament on ESPN this afternoon and became totally mesmerized by Jordan Spieth. He birdied 5 holes in a row on the back nine - a true phenom in the world of golf.

I have tickets for Saturday and Sunday for the Players Championship (May 12th and May 13th) at TPC Sawgrass in Ponte Vedra Beach. Looking forward to seeing Jordan Spieth, Justin Thomas, Rickie Fowler, Tiger Woods and Rory McIlroy live and in person. I am amazed at how well these guys play golf.
@abacomike, just could't resist: Reed has Tiger by the tail.

In a sports related story, 23 year old all-rounder and rookie sensation Shohei Ohtani has hit home runs in 3 consecutive games and has won his first pitching game. Ohtani was profiled on 60 Minutes last year and he was compared favorably to Babe Ruth.

So far he has not disappointed but I hope the As will not burn him out pitching too many innings or playing in too many games.
I'm not picking on you but I have an opinion about what you have said.

Baseball is a business, a cutthroat business at that. Therefore, the owner will do what is best for his pocket and winning and in that order. Arms and bats are made to be used. You have to use an arm while there is still meat on it before it turns to useless fat. Bats will break and wear out when they get old. It is better to get rid of a player a year too early than to pay him to sit on the bench for a year or two after he is used up.

Like it or not that is the real world of baseball and of all professional sports.

Comparing him to Babe Ruth is laughable but it is typical of the talking heads that report on the games today. The kid hasn't even finished one year of pro ball and the comparison has already started. Talk is, like they say, "cheap".

jmonroe
But, how do you really feel about the kid?

I don't know anything about the kid other than what I have heard. I haven't see him throw or hit. Ask me in 4 or 5 years and I'll know more, just like the experts that predict. However, for the sake of the game, it would be nice to have a talent like he is claimed to possess.

jmonroe

jmonroe · April 2018

driver100 said:

abacomike said:
Got a call from the dealership in West Palm Beach where I got my S450. It seems they just sold my 2017 BMW 740i (the trade-in) but are having trouble getting the title reissued to the new owner. It seems they need a signed affidavit from the previous owner attesting to the fact that the BMW did not sustain any hurricane damage during Irma last September.

So I am going to drive up there this morning to sign the affidavit - but before doing so, I am going to read that document very, very carefully. Unless it states that prior to November 10, 2017 (date I traded the car) and only while I owned the vehicle, the car did not sustain any damage due to Hurricane Irma, to the best of my knowledge. I sure don’t want anyone coming after me if the car was damaged prior to my ownership or after I traded the car in to the Mercedes dealership.

If the document does not state the above, either they add it as an addendum to the disclosure or I will refuse to sign it. Got to be so careful these days due to the litigious nature of our society.
Read carefully Mike, you got nothing to gain and something to possibly lose. In a way, I don't blame the new buyer of wanting it guaranteed. Isn't Nov 10 to early April a long time for a car to sell, though I doubt it would be an easy sell....has to have just the right buyer shopping at an MB dealer?

I will say, when we traded in our 2008 BMW for a 2013 Audi A4 the Audi dealer said they could give us more for the BMW than the BMW dealer because the BMW dealer would have to go over it carefully and then sell it as a CPO with a warranty. The Audi dealer said all he had to do was wash it and put it on his lot.

I am also very surprised that they had Mikes old car for as long as they did. Mike must have beat the hell out of them when he traded it in. Then again, maybe it sold quick but the title issue is just now surfacing. Like you and I and Shifty have said, nothing too good can come out of this for Mike.

Now about your 2008 BMW. I didn't know that dealers would CPO a 5 year old car. And if so, there is no law that says they HAVE to do it, like you said in your post ("...the BMW dealer would have to go over it carefully and then sell it as a CPO with a warranty"). Just be satisfied with the better deal you got from the Audi dealer and consider what he said as dealer fluff.

jmonroe

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