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Sentence #2 response. Absolutely no disrespect, but it is really not rocket science ( my other side of being licensed to haul...) . In addition, the (trucking) industry is contracting; not expanding. Overall the industry is forced to hire less drivers.
Routes for professional drivers are normally well laid out.
There is a well USED 3 lane each way route, curving through this town: that all manner of oversized traffic flows, i.e., one half of modular homes & huge home trailers, huge off road construction equipment, etc.. We routinely get up along either side of those rigs with NO real fear. The drivers literally guide their rigs like they are on rails. If one is really looking, one can see/sense if these drivers convey confidence or fear.
We have an intersection here with a fueling station / convenience store on the corner. Many folks turning left onto the street that accesses this site follow up with an immediate right into the lot, so I tend to be extra cautious when making a right there during any left-turn periods since the turners do need to access the right lane very quickly after the intersection. However, at most intersections, I just make my right as people are turning left. If they decide to pull into the far right lane as part of their turn, my being in "their way" is simply their own fault.
Likewise, if I am making a left turn during a "yield on green" period, I do not wait for right turners to take my left since we have separate lanes. Again, if they create a conflict, then their problem. I'm not on the road to soothe their egos by validating their poor lane discipline.
Dual turn lanes also get to me - whenever possible, I try to have nobody beside me, I don't trust most drivers here.
As for sounding the horn ? To me, 9.5/10 it’s absolutely pointless, because they (the perp) already know(s) what they are doing. Giving no quarter, or signaling to turn into the perp seems to work better.
Again, I would have to defer to your judgment. The “younger entitled set” driving daddy’s P/U/car can be a set of losers.
Regarding the horn, pressure release valve, it feels good. And it is a faux pas to the uptight "civil" passive aggressive local mentality, which makes it that much better.
There were times, I had high dB air horns mounted. We didn’t have to use them much. Most sane folks really didn’t want to cut close in front of high torque forward moving push bars & tubular fences. 😉 But anymore, it’s been easy to see what’s going to happen before it actually does.
It actually makes me wax historic, to the time/s when horns lights/high beams, turn signals, etc. used to be a part of “old” school language/driving. There are indeed precious few who practice this; let alone know what some of the signals mean. Some truckers understand & practice this.
Kudos to the state of New Mexico for clearly marking passing areas & starting/ending boundaries. But I have to say it’s a tad sobering to see a lot of “white crosses” in areas that don’t make a lot of logical sense.😩
For several miles, there was a third-gen Subaru Outback ahead of me on the highway by a small distance. Small meaning that I was cruising along a few seconds behind it for much of the time. At one point, I see a school bus in the left lane ahead, so I re-positioned to the right lane in order to increase my chances of making it through the upcoming intersection without having to stop for the light that was likely to change any moment.
I was cruising at about 60 or a touch over after having just passed a vehicle in the right lane. The Subaru was still in the left lane, approaching the bus, and maybe a second ahead of me (three or four car lengths). At this point, the driver really had not slowed at all, so I got a strong suspicion that he was planning to shift right (in front of me) to pass. However, no signal, no indication of any kind. As such, I maintained speed and continued to close the distance.
Now that the Subaru is really getting close to the bus, the driver makes the choice to jump in front of me (signaled as the car was already changing lanes) with now under a second separating us. As soon as the lane change occurred, I dropped the accelerator pedal so my car would slow and I could re-establish a reasonable following distance. And, instead of maintaining or increasing speed, the driver slows down (no brakes, but obviously decelerating). Our vehicles closed distance until I was maybe a car length behind, and finally I decided I would have to use the brakes to shed more speed. Once I fell back into a decent pace, I was going about 50 behind the Subaru, which finally finished passing the bus and went back to the left lane. However, once it was in the left lane and I returned to 60, the car pulled away from me.
I just don't get what the driver was doing.... Other than that head-scratcher, it seemed like the driver was being smooth and consistent, etc, so it was like they just fell asleep for a moment. LOL
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I beeped twice today - first at some kind of Civrolla box that was going around a corner at 2mph and holding up traffic, another at an ILX (I think) that decided to stumble into my lane as I was beside it - then shot back when I honked. Normal day.
Two no-lighters - Venza and Focus. Also saw a Prius with parking lights and fog lights but no headlights.
To more pressing news: I was reading that opioid deaths (49,000 per year) kill more people than car crashes. (34,500)
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There are literally too many disadvantages. DUI, cars and the night seem to be unwise choices. A lot of people don’t have good night vision. Headlamps have been designed for speeds of 55mph. It’s always wise to drop approximately 10% & sometimes more off ones speed. In certain parts of the country, during the night animals seem drawn to roadways. I’m sure the list goes on and on.
It was probably 0300, there was very little traffic on the road. I was driving my old 1969 C20, just bopping along at 65mph. Over time, I slowly approached this semi ahead, so I could see it for miles and miles. When i was probably a quarter-mile back, I noticed that the lights started to drift a little to the left, then a little to the right, then whip back center for a while before drifting again.
I sped up a little to get to the point of passing faster. By the time I came up on him, he drifted heavily into the left lane before pulling right, then onto the shoulder, etc. In other words, he was getting bad!
I waited back there for a minute or so, getting the guy's rhythm down and flashed my lights, honked, etc. When he started correcting right after having drifted into the left lane, I laid on the truck, passed him as quickly as possible while blaring the horn, got in front, swerved around a little while honking, and suddenly the truck straightens out, the guy toots his horn a few times, then immediately slowed and took the next exit.
Hopefully, he remembers that incident as well as I do, because I think he was within minutes of wrecking that beast.
This is amusing - I guess it can only go one way, if drivers were any less aggressive here, they'd curl up and take a nap.
Indeed, The optics make strong graphics for states legalizing marijuana wanting to keep the fatalities/accident statistics abnormally high. The states of course can point at the new boogie man. (Huey Lewis and the News; I’ve got a new drug) This hypocrisy is beyond the pale, that defies logic, human decency and emotion. On the other hand, the DWI fatality injury rates @ 50 % has steadily been going down @ now less than 40%, albeit slowly.
I've found an analogy.
Is it harder to hit a 100 MPH fastball, or a 50 MPH fastball? One is used for blasting homeruns during batting practice or homerun derby, while the other belonged to strikeout king pitchers like Nolan Ryan and Roger Clemens.
When I drive slow, I feel like a 50 MPH fastball, and all the bad drivers out there are targeting me. Be the 100 MPH fastball, make yourself hard to hit.
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Speed limits are usually under posted, but to think driving at 100 MPH is safer than 50 under the same conditions is just flat out nuts.
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Speed limits are usually under posted, but to think driving at 100 MPH is safer than 50 under the same conditions is just flat out nuts.
Physics are different in Alaska...
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Speed limits are usually under posted, but to think driving at 100 MPH is safer than 50 under the same conditions is just flat out nuts. ‘...
If one thinks that he is saying that (what you assert), (last sentence) one is absolutely wrong. Indeed, I have address that issue more (than once) using IN/APPROPRIATE speed. So SPEED can be IN/APPROPRIATE at 1, 50 mph or 100 mph, etc. I’m guessing MOST folks understand this?
Of course, speed limits are under posted ! To say that conveys little to no information. Really do you post the same speed limit in a clover leaf curve for a 80,000 pound tractor-trailer load in a cloverleaf, as one does for a +1 g Corvette ZR1?
So using your logic, 80%+ plus of fatalities/accidents happen @ or below speed limits! ? That is truly a very very poor argument for ... speed limits.
I am not exactly sure what you are trying to say.
@andres3 said he felt that driving slower is less safe than driving faster.
I simply don’t agree with that statement
I never mentioned anything about percentages or that more fatalities occur under the speed limit.
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Minutes later I was home in my driveway, taking my groceries out of the trunk, when I heard loud engine noises coming my way. I looked up in time to see a small comapct of some sort, likely a Civic or a Mazda 3 , blow through the stop sign at what had to be 50mph. I mean he was really moving. Right on his bumper was a loud pickup of some sort, maybe a Chevy but not sure because it was moving so fast, also ignoring the sign. Keep in mind this is on a quiet 30mph limit residential street. They disappeared out of sight but not out of earshot, and it sounded like both were accelerating. I wanted to beat some sense into both of them. Very dangerous behavior.
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I see people doing that texting crap all the time, and I lay on my horn every time I see it. I love how it startles them. LOL
I like visiting major cities with first world infrastructure to sample their light rail systems, Backroads are good for driving.
The argument comes down to which more often holds true in the real world given all conditions and factors.
I believe the data is crystal clear, speed limits under the 85th percentile KILL and MAIM people! The blood is on the hands of law makers and law enforcement that goes along with these shenanigans for the sole purpose of revenue generation (or some misguided and ignorant views on what is safe).
Speed limits are usually under posted, but to think driving at 100 MPH is safer than 50 under the same conditions is just flat out nuts.
That's just it.... you can't have the "same conditions" at 50 or 100. People will drive at or around the 85th percentile speed regardless of the speed limit (or absence of one on the Autobahn), unless you have a cop on every block. Driving 50 MPH in the left lane of the Autobahn will likely get you killed faster than going 100 MPH in the same lane same conditions. It depends what those conditions are. We live in the real world. We interact with other humans and drivers.
Besides, I wasn't advocating that everyone drive 100 MPH, just using that as an example using the baseball analogy for why going faster can and is safe (up to a limit; see SOLOMON curve).
Physics..... Going faster lengthens your stopping distance and your ability to swerve around an object (increases distance traveled for reaction times). OK. No arguing that. However, the argument FAILS when you look at collision causation. How many people have told you "man, if only I was going 5 or 10 MPH slower, I could have stopped in time?" No one has told me that. I bet no one has told you that either. Accidents are not caused by stopping power (or lack thereof). Usually rear-end collisions are caused my simple lack of hitting the brakes at all (negating physics), or hitting them way too late (due to distraction). Could going slower reduce the collision power from accidents caused by distraction? Yes. However, I choose to focus on the cause, and eliminate the cause (distraction). Without allowing distraction while you are driving, you can make those risks of going faster become minuscule in comparison to other factors, like idiot drivers.
The PIN (person in DEnial) use s/d non sequitur argument/s, as if preparing for the first grade school rehearsal debate. Yet, it’s inexplicable the PIN is in practice, that naïve!
Now I’m OK with the fact that that may be ones’ opinion; that one may think it good for other people, but not for one.
But as mentioned, the data is really quite clear. The government safety agencies have bemoaned the fact/myth that speed kills. Yet on the other hand, they can’t easily lie about the data. They will say that (non appropriate) speed is a dominate factor in about 20% - of fatalities/accidents. What they do leave OUT is that the 80% + better fatalities/accident are in compliance @ posted speed limits or below.
Yet again data can be muddled. So for example, it is widely known that alcohol is involved in 40% of accidents fatalities. So (inappropriate) speed ( & other factors) can easily fall under the category of DWI. If modifying variables are really the cause, the 20% inappropriate speed can really be LESS; up to only 12%.
Again, this is probably true in most major cities, but, in the LA metropolitan area: which is a HUGE bunch of real estate, the speed limit used to be 55 mph during the Nixon era. Naturally doom and gloom was forecasted if the speed limit EVER got to 60 miles an hour. So fast forward to 2019 and the speed limit of 65 mph with more normal speed is 75 to 85 mph the roads are SAFER than ever.
Being on high alert is tiring :@
Municipalities: city, county, unincorporated, state, federal, etc., can form multiple task forces to increase revenues ($250 to $500) apprehending the scofflaws. 3 to 5 officers can make a field day. One officer can be the observer/accusing officer. 2/4 (motorcycles best) officers can be catching cars in either/4 direction/s.
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If one doesn’t have anything to do, it would be fun to watch. Form a go fund to pay for the cops prizes.😎