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Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-2021 Sahara 4xe-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2006 Acura TL w/nav
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
I'm averaging 36.2 mpg in my 4 cyl 2020 Accord. Full size space but handles like a car much smaller
I have a 2020 Forte and it's plenty big and roomy for my needs, plus it gets 50 mpg on the highway. I'm just glad I got it before prices got obscene. It's worth $2-3k more now than I paid for it, including lease up-fronts and payments and the buyout after 2 years.
And we just bought a 2023 Bolt EV for my wife. Cost less than a base Civic even before the Federal tax credit (plus my home fast charger was nearly free after Chevy and electric company rebates), plenty roomy inside but very short, thus a breeze to park, with versatility of a wagon. Quiet, smooth, quick, and about 120 MPGe (worse in the winter of course, but so are ICE cars). Perfect car for 98% of our driving, and we have the Forte for longer trips or when both of us are driving at the same time.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-2021 Sahara 4xe-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Our '02 Explorer was shorter than the Saturn...
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2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
If you're interested in one, NOW is the time to get it as it qualifies for the $7,500 Federal tax credit through March I think. That makes the 1LT $19,000 + TTL. After March the credit will be less, maybe $3,750? And some states have their own incentives. I read that in Oregon, one can get a base Bolt EV for about $10k after all rebates and incentives.
But, will give the Bolt another look see. My local dealer never has one on the lot to test drive, a bad idea really. Up to now, I've only driven a Tesla once & a Polestar twice, so my experience with EV's is rather limited, truth be told. I do remember the brisk acceleration at first & the immediate fear when I took my foot off and the forward momentum just kind of dies. In that second or two, as traffic was bearing down on my, I just feathered the accelerator to get moving forward again. Was a real quick learning curve as no one told me what to expect. Need to get online & see if there are any changes since I was last logged in. And then, will go from there.
Sounds like y'all are super happy with the ownership experience which helps. As much as I want to get something new, don't want to screw it up like I did with the Tucson I had for just over a year back in 2014, so will give this whole situation a lot of thought. I might get back with you in the future.
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKOamyl7KkI
though my pet peeve continues, skinny sidewall tires on a family sedan!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
But when it comes to Honda, we know that the Civic of the last several years is same size of an Accord from the early 1990s—and so the Civic is a midsize sedan too. The owner in the video below, who drives over 100,000 miles a year delivering medical equipment and samples, now has over 700,000 miles on his 2017 Civic EX turbo. Scotty K a few years ago predicted that these small Honda turbos wouldn't last long, but in this case obviously he was wrong. The owner of the 2017 Civic with this incredible mileage is on his original engine, transmission, and even his original clutch. He does baby the car in how he drives it, and changes his oil frequently.
Why I'm particularly interested in this car is the 1.5 Turbo, because my wife has a more powerful version of this engine in her 2018 CR-V EX, and we now have 52,000 miles on it. We change the oil with full synthetic about every 7-8k miles, which is a bit before Honda's Maintenance Minder says (I try to take it in when it's around "30%" of oil life), but on youtube there are some who still recommend 5k oil changes for Hondas, and say that the MM's predicted oil life monitor is not designed for getting maximum life out of your engine. I'm hoping that by using full synthetic, which isn't required, plus changing it a bit early, that the engine will still last a long time. But apparently Honda's 1.5T does once in a while wear out head gaskets, which I'm guessing is probably about a $2k or so repair.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5M3IBLhDs0&t=35s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZTJw0yG6Gg
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-2021 Sahara 4xe-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Key to the 700k civic, a manual! The way to go if you want it to last. No CVT. that and driving a lot. I believe it’s better to use the car every day and heat it up than to sit around a lot and do short drives.
I assume our RDX 2.0 is an expanded version of the 1.5 though it could be a different design. Given it will turn 4 in 3 months and currently has 23,000 miles we don’t do a lot of miles between changes (I think it has had 4 already). I won’t be taking anything past a 5k interval, if only because I will hit 1 year first!
With a GDI turbo engine sludge and gunk is what will kill them. Better to change a little early than a little late.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
"For what it is worth my friend has an 2013 Accord with the CVT going strong at 250,000 miles. He is very meticulous when it comes to his cars so I am sure he has changed the fluids according to the maintenance schedule."
But obviously they do fail sometimes. Looking at this teardown of one, these CVTs do look both heavy-duty and complicated. Guessing that a replacement CVT is at least c. $3k for the unit alone? Then another 1-2k for installation.
One good thing about the Honda CVT is high mpg. Just yesterday we took a c. 450 mile highway drive in our CR-V AWD and got 35 mpg on regular gas going mostly 65-70 mph. That's 2 mpg above the epa highway rating for this car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16u2eYfX9-g&t=1271s
https://www.oxmoorhyundai.com/inventory/new-2023-hyundai-sonata-se-fwd-4d-sedan-kmhl24ja5pa331257/
But it looks like a grouper
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
This is also a RWD vehicle, which I would think most folks, who were raised on FWD or AWD cars, would struggle with when the weather turns nasty.
(yes, I know that 40 years ago everyone drove RWD mastodons and nobody died, but I'm talking about the current generation of car buyers)
It will be interesting to see what happens on 1/1/2024, when the tax regulations change.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-2021 Sahara 4xe-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Compare that to a Civic turbo with the CVT, which is rated 42 mpg on the highway and has a 12.4 gallon tank. Leaving 1.4 gallons in reserve, the highway range of the Civic EX is about 460 miles. 200 miles compared to 460 miles is still a big difference.
For the last three and a half years our daughter (who has a learner's permit but doesn't yet drive) has lived about 225 miles away from us during the academic year. I've made that round-trip drive a lot, sometimes with my wife, but often solo. With a few stops, plus the turn-around time, it's about 8 hours round-trip. With my Acura TLX I can make it no problem without getting gas, because my highway mpg is around 36 to 40, and my car has a 17.2 gallon gas tank. My highway range is easily 550 miles, even with a 1.5 gallon reserve, usually more like 600. With a Tesla I'd need to add about half an hour of charging on the way there, and about half an hour on the way back. And realistically I'd need the Model 3 long range, which has a lab range of 330 miles ,and a real-world highway range of about 250 miles. By the end of the 8 hours, even with coffee, I'm starting to get tired. Adding an hour to that seems like a challenge.
https://www.vw.com/en/models/id-7.html
2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2006 Acura TL w/nav
We were at a local Chevy store last week and was surprised to see a blue Bolt EV in the showroom. It was a blue over black interior model, a 2LT I think, the model I almost bought in the summer of 2022. Prefer the alloys of the lower model as the 2LT alloy has too much black for my tastes. I had signed most of the paper work for a light blue model but hesitated at the last minute and never gave my deposit or signed the final buy order. The price was around $27K which I thought was great but just decided to pause the purchase...was just not ready to make the switch. And to this day, think it was the right decision.
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNe75StExhY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg3W-qzZJrg
https://pressroom.toyota.com/toyota-unveils-the-powerful-and-purely-hybrid-next-generation-camry/
"....Powering the Camry is Toyota’s first-ever sedan pairing of its 2.5-liter, 4-cylinder engine and fifth-generation Toyota Hybrid System (THS 5). Combining the engine’s power with two electric motors, this dynamic new HEV has a standard 225 net combined horsepower on Front Wheel Drive (FWD) models and 232HP on Electronic On-Demand All-Wheel Drive (AWD) equipped models....
The next generation model comes with a standard smart-key with push-to-start button, and a dual-zone automatic climate control system with rear air vents....
The Camry also has a retuned suspension for enhanced responsiveness and agile handling which adds a sense of thrill when taking on those twisting and turning roads. The sport grades have a specific sport-tuned suspension with increased comfort, while still providing even greater stability, handling, and confidence behind the wheel....
The Toyota Audio Multimedia System includes a standard 8-inch touchscreen display or an available 12.3-inch screen. The system includes standard wireless Apple CarPlay® and Android Auto™ compatibility, and pairs well with the standard Qi wireless charging pad. The Camry also offers a standard combination of USB-A and USB-C ports, with three in the front and two in the rear across all grades....
The Toyota Camry comes standard with Blind Spot Monitor, which is designed to help detect and warn you of vehicles approaching or positioned in the adjacent lanes, with Rear Cross-Traffic Alert for added peace of mind by helping to detect vehicles approaching from either side while backing out and alerting you with a visual and audible warning."
In addition to all that, it looks like SiriusXM is standard as well.
With 232 hp standard, that probably means a 0-60 time of less than 7 seconds.
All that while getting about 50 mpg in combined city/hwy driving.
For c.$31k that's going to be impossible to beat. In the long-running battle between Accord and Camry, the Camry looks like it's going to be the better car in most ways.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fawUGYXBtHY&t=330s
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Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-2021 Sahara 4xe-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
https://www.kbb.com/new-cars/total-cost-of-ownership/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WknTCyn9CmY
2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2006 Acura TL w/nav
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
Shifter levers now are really just electric switches. And can be put anywhere in any style. Buttons, knobs, whatever you want.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-2021 Sahara 4xe-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)