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jipster · March 27

@explorerx4 said:
@jipster,
Are those tires still on there?

The new Vredestein tires have about 3k miles on them, so yeah, I'm holding onto those a little longer. lol

The old oem Hankook tires still had about 5-7k miles of legal tread left. Probably 85-90% highway driving. The dealership tried to get me to buy a new set from them. Average tires.

oldfarmer50 · March 27

snakeweasel said:

@oldfarmer50 said:

rel="jwm40517">He said to select a younger doctor because the older ones haven’t learned the better techniques and do what they are familiar with.

Chosing inexperence eh? Kind of like giving the keys to you Benz to a teenager.

Not inexperienced, just experienced in a newer technique. There used to be lots of doctors with a ton of experience with leaches.😂

oldfarmer50 · March 27

jipster said:

@ab348 said:

I bet I could get it for 2 grand if I turned the tables on ol’ Jipster by bringing along a foot-long sub sandwich and negotiating for several hours by nibbling on it.

You guys don't forget anything. " alt="" height="20" />

So far you are the closest to winning that free backrub from jmonroe. I'll anounce the winner tomorrow morning.

I only listed my car on my hoa website... thus far. A mechanic asked about the cars "issues", when told said the motor mount part was hard to find. Said he'd check with his wife and get back with me. A lady texted and asked for more details. When I gave her more details, she said the price sounded fair, and she'd like to come test drive the car and buy it Friday or Saturday. Has to wait to get a ride from a friend. Sounds like a payment buyer? There is no "First National Bank of Jipster" though. Cash or certified check for that lovely beater.

Edit: The lady just texted she'd like to come see the car tomorrow at 1 or 2p.m. So, it's possible I may have underpriced the car a bit. " alt="" height="20" />

Anybody that desperate for a car I would give it to them free.

abacomike · March 27

Luckily, my 2024 G90 came with 21” Michelin Primacy Tour A/S tires. Unfortunately they are staggered sizes - fronts/rears are different sizes. I had them installed on the 2021 G90 and they were the best tires I have ever driven on in terms of stability, cornering and great performance on slick rain soaked road surfaces.

venture · March 27

jipster said:

@ab348 said:

I bet I could get it for 2 grand if I turned the tables on ol’ Jipster by bringing along a foot-long sub sandwich and negotiating for several hours by nibbling on it.

You guys don't forget anything. " alt="" height="20" />

So far you are the closest to winning that free backrub from jmonroe. I'll anounce the winner tomorrow morning.

I only listed my car on my hoa website... thus far. A mechanic asked about the cars "issues", when told said the motor mount part was hard to find. Said he'd check with his wife and get back with me. A lady texted and asked for more details. When I gave her more details, she said the price sounded fair, and she'd like to come test drive the car and buy it Friday or Saturday. Has to wait to get a ride from a friend. Sounds like a payment buyer? There is no "First National Bank of Jipster" though. Cash or certified check for that lovely beater.

Edit: The lady just texted she'd like to come see the car tomorrow at 1 or 2p.m. So, it's possible I may have underpriced the car a bit. " alt="" height="20" />

Seeing what the prize is, I guess $27 million.

imidazol97 · March 27

abacomike said:
Luckily, my 2024 G90 came with 21” Michelin Primacy Tour A/S tires. Unfortunately they are staggered sizes - fronts/rears are different sizes. I had them installed on the 2021 G90 and they were the best tires I have ever driven on in terms of stability, cornering and great performance on slick rain soaked road surfaces.

Those are excellent premium touring tires. I worried over picking them or the Defender2 touring tires.
The Primacy Tourings came on DIL's MachE Ford that she got recently.

jipster · March 27

@oldfarmer50 said:
Anybody that desperate for a car I would give it to them free.

Used car prices has doubled since covid. Good tires. Starts. Runs. Stops. Worth something. Potential buyer is scheduled to come look at the car Saturday morning.

But, you've been known to kick a few tires of old beaters in your time, oldfarmer. What's your guess on what price I listed my car for? Or, what do you think it's worth?
May win that backrub.

corvette · March 27

@abacomike - If you want to, you should be able to have the staggered tires rotated side to side on the same axle, if they aren't directional treads.

abacomike · March 27

Yes, Corvette. That’s what my service department did last month when I had my oil and filter changed. Definitely helps with wear and tear. They also did a 4 wheel alignment - I have rear wheel steering as well as AWD.

explorerx4 · March 27

My wife goes to a hospital facility that has a gym and pool, etc... 5 days a week.
There are a bunch of women from the neighborhood that also go there pretty much every day.
If we go away for a few days she gets questions like "Is everything OK, we haven't seen you for a few days".
Today my wife said someone asked her do you live at xx649? She said "Yes".
That's the house with the red truck? "Yes it's a recent addition."
You have a white dog? "Not really, it's a granddog that comes over regularly."
It feels like the KGB is on a fishing expedition.
I guess a red truck stands out in a sea of black/gray/white and the dog is pretty.

roadburner · March 27

graphicguy said:
Watched one of those J&S Auto Haus YouTube vids last night. I had to shake my head.

The guy who does most of the vids announced they wanted to help people who are struggling financially to get into a car. Sounds like BHPH, but whatever. He said he wanted to help anyone who has been turned down for credit get into a NEW Mitsubishi Outlander. Must be a lot of manufacturer money on those to buy down the interest rate for bad credit, or maybe very long term loan.

Either way, he made it clear to his sales force he wanted to talk to those in need.

What did he get? One guy had a Civic that had 3 blown engines and the "kid" was upside down on it. Instead of trying to dig himself out, he said he wanted a BMW M340 instead.

Either I'm getting persnickety, or just tired of the people who "want to make a bad situation worse"!

One guy who was really upside down on his trade said he wouldn't even look at a Mitsubishi. Beggars can't be choosers.

Cheesh.

We had a few nitwits at BMW who would mile up a lease and then roll it into another lease. A fool and his money...

jmonroe1 · March 27

oldfarmer50 said:

snakeweasel said:

@oldfarmer50 said:

rel="jwm40517">He said to select a younger doctor because the older ones haven’t learned the better techniques and do what they are familiar with.

Chosing inexperence eh? Kind of like giving the keys to you Benz to a teenager.

Not inexperienced, just experienced in a newer technique. There used to be lots of doctors with a ton of experience with leaches.😂
____________________________________________________
Only the buggy ones.

jmonroe

snakeweasel · March 28

oldfarmer50 said:

snakeweasel said:

@oldfarmer50 said:

rel="jwm40517">He said to select a younger doctor because the older ones haven’t learned the better techniques and do what they are familiar with.

Chosing inexperence eh? Kind of like giving the keys to you Benz to a teenager.

Not inexperienced, just experienced in a newer technique. There used to be lots of doctors with a ton of experience with leaches.😂

Tell me, who would you take your Mustang to, some 18 year old mechanic who just started working on cars after graduating from Tony's Mechanic school and pizzeria or the 50 year old who has been working on Mustangs for the last 30 years?

jipster · March 28

Well, surprise, I'm only asking $1,450 for the 2007 Kia Optima LX. Quite a bit lower than the figures suggested yesterday. Looks like @stickguy wins the big prize with a guess of $2,000. Congratulations... or condolences depending on how you look at it. Given market conditions, and the overall condition of the car, seems fair. Price is negotiable, but I've packed a rather large lunch.

corvette · March 28

That's a very fair price for a running and driving beater.

oldfarmer50 · March 28

jipster said:

@oldfarmer50 said:

Anybody that desperate for a car I would give it to them free.

Used car prices has doubled since covid. Good tires. Starts. Runs. Stops. Worth something. Potential buyer is scheduled to come look at the car Saturday morning.

But, you've been known to kick a few tires of old beaters in your time, oldfarmer. What's your guess on what price I listed my car for? Or, what do you think it's worth?

May win that backrub. " alt="" height="20" />

In the old days that car would be $500, maybe a thousand if the buyer was drunk but today? Nothing that runs goes for less than $3k.

I hope I’m wrong since I don’t want jmonroe’s boney hands anywhere near me.😫

A year ago I sold my Chevy cargo van with 125k miles for a thousand and had buyers coming out of the woodwork by just parking it at the end of the driveway. Only one flake wanted to low ball me and had all his friends call offering high and higher prices but never the full $1000

oldfarmer50 · March 28

explorerx4 said:
My wife goes to a hospital facility that has a gym and pool, etc... 5 days a week.
There are a bunch of women from the neighborhood that also go there pretty much every day.
If we go away for a few days she gets questions like "Is everything OK, we haven't seen you for a few days".
Today my wife said someone asked her do you live at xx649? She said "Yes".
That's the house with the red truck? "Yes it's a recent addition."
You have a white dog? "Not really, it's a granddog that comes over regularly."
It feels like the KGB is on a fishing expedition.
I guess a red truck stands out in a sea of black/gray/white and the dog is pretty.

Maybe it was the KGB. I told you to always use cash.😂

stickguy · March 28

Made it to Boston this morning. Braved the mass pike. Traffic was actually not bad but dang, I’m getting too old for the crazy tunnels on I90.

laurasdada · March 28

stickguy said:
Made it to Boston this morning. Braved the mass pike. Traffic was actually not bad but dang, I’m getting too old for the crazy tunnels on I90.

Hey, ramblin' boy, now, won't you settle down?
Boston ain't your kind of town...

oldfarmer50 · March 28

snakeweasel said:

oldfarmer50 said:

snakeweasel said:

@oldfarmer50 said:

rel="jwm40517">He said to select a younger doctor because the older ones haven’t learned the better techniques and do what they are familiar with.

Chosing inexperence eh? Kind of like giving the keys to you Benz to a teenager.

Not inexperienced, just experienced in a newer technique. There used to be lots of doctors with a ton of experience with leaches.😂

Tell me, who would you take your Mustang to, some 18 year old mechanic who just started working on cars after graduating from Tony's Mechanic school and pizzeria or the 50 year old who has been working on Mustangs for the last 30 years?

If the mechanic trained for as long as a doctor I wouldn’t have a problem although in your example the 18 year old would have started training at 8.

abacomike · March 28

Assuming (I use the term with extreme caution) the cost of an imported car/SUV increases by a specific tariff imposition, would that result in an increase in the value of preowned vehicles of the same model and manufacturer?

As an example, would a Mercedes Benz manufactured in Germany and then exported to the US increase the value of the same imported “used” vehicle for sale here in the US? If so, by how much of an increase?

Just curious!

explorerx4 · March 28

You know your kids don't hate you when they buy you this beer then add, "Now you can tell people you are taking care of some Yardwork".

stickguy · March 28

Looks like something I would enjoy.

kyfdx · March 29

abacomike said:
Assuming (I use the term with extreme caution) the cost of an imported car/SUV increases by a specific tariff imposition, would that result in an increase in the value of preowned vehicles of the same model and manufacturer?

As an example, would a Mercedes Benz manufactured in Germany and then exported to the US increase the value of the same imported “used” vehicle for sale here in the US? If so, by how much of an increase?

Just curious!

In general, if new car prices go up, it will definitely push up used car values, as well. Figuring which specific used make/models that will affect is a harder job.

stickguy · March 29

Demand will go up and supply down on newer used cars. And clean older ones as new cars get more expensive.

abacomike · March 29

@kyfdx said:
In general, if new car prices go up, it will definitely push up used car values, as well. Figuring which specific used make/models that will affect is a harder job.

It’s obvious that increased pricing on vehicles not produced in the US will drive (no pun intended) buyers toward US manufactured vehicles for obvious reasons. However, there are many foreign branded vehicles produced in the US now such as some BMW SUV’s, Mercedes SUV’s, various Honda, Toyota and Korean models, to name a few.

Increased prices on new imported vehicles are expected to begin sometime next month. It’s going to be interesting to watch and see how long this will continue with pressures on foreign manufacturers. If anything, US manufactured vehicles could see increased sales for a time, depending on a myriad of variables.

kyfdx · March 29

I don't think you can find even a US-assembled domestic nameplate model that doesn't have at least 20% imported parts.

Also, if the competition has to raise their prices, then you can be sure that even a vehicle that isn't subject to tariffs will have their price go up, as well.

abacomike · March 29

@kyfdx said:
I don't think you can find even a US-assembled domestic nameplate model that doesn't have at least 20% imported parts.

Also, if the competition has to raise their prices, then you can be sure that even a vehicle that isn't subject to tariffs will have their price go up, as well.

Excellent point!

stickguy · March 29

Will be interesting to see if companies just raise sticker price or puts tariff charge as a line item with the options. And if they apply individually or (my guess) spread it across all units.

jipster · March 29

@oldfarmer50 said:
In the old days that car would be $500, maybe a thousand if the buyer was drunk but today? Nothing that runs goes for less than $3k.

I hope I’m wrong since I don’t want jmonroe’s boney hands anywhere near me.😫

A year ago I sold my Chevy cargo van with 125k miles for a thousand and had buyers coming out of the woodwork by just parking it at the end of the driveway. Only one flake wanted to low ball me and had all his friends call offering high and higher prices but never the full $1000

Potential buyer here as we speak. Her dads a mechanic. Looks to be about 30. She wanted to scan for codes. A friend borrowed my scanner, and hasn't returned, so buyer drove to Autozone with my wife to have scan codes . Probably a laundry list of codes. May have to pack an extra lunch to get this deal done.

kyfdx · March 29

At the price you are asking, they are idiots if they don't drive away in it.

jipster · March 29

Buyer says she'll take it. Cash buyer at $1,450. Only code that showed was for the oxygen sensor... which was a bit surprising.
She wants me to sign title over at the bank and get notarized. Bank opens at 10.

stickguy · March 29

Good deal for you.

Michaell · March 29

Regarding used car prices, all of this turmoil is happening just as 3 year old leases are starting to be returned.

But, if you remember, 2022 was the year where not as many cars were sold, and an even fewer percentage of sales were leases. Meaning there are going to be a LOT fewer lease returns, which will make the value of them go up.

Swell.

jipster · March 29

That 2007 Kia Optima was a good car for my daughter. Got her thru college, grad school, and 3 years of marriage. No real issues. Served us well as a backup for 2-3 years. Hate to see it go. Our driveway won't look the same.

stickguy · March 29

@Michaell said:
Regarding used car prices, all of this turmoil is happening just as 3 year old leases are starting to be returned.

But, if you remember, 2022 was the year where not as many cars were sold, and an even fewer percentage of sales were leases. Meaning there are going to be a LOT fewer lease returns, which will make the value of them go up.

Swell.

Could be a repeat of Covid when you could sell your car for silly money. Good times if you don’t have to replace it.

My wife will be happy if it supports her weird idea that there’s no reason for us to be replacing any of our fleet any time soon.

oldfarmer50 · March 29

kyfdx said:
At the price you are asking, they are idiots if they don't drive away in it.

Depends on the codes. In NY you couldn’t get it inspected with a CEL lit up. I had a CEL evap code on my PT Cruiser that I just couldn’t fix. Turned out to be a rusted out fuel tank. Expensive repair relative to the value of the car. Even a $1000 repair on Jipster’s hooptie might be too much.

At least dad is a mechanic, that should help with repair costs.

EDIT: I see the code was only for O2 sensor. Hopefully that doesn’t mean a bad catalytic converter.

ab348 · March 29

stickguy said:
Will be interesting to see if companies just raise sticker price or puts tariff charge as a line item with the options. And if they apply individually or (my guess) spread it across all units.

I have read conflicting accounts as to how they will be calculated since for a lot of vehicles some components are domestically produced and attract zero tariff while others are tariffed just on the cost of that component (I.e. an imported engine) which increases its cost and hence the cost of the vehicle. That figure would normally be marked up by the manufacturer when it is sold to the dealer and then marked up when sold to a customer. It seems a different thing to me than an excise tax, being more of an input cost.

kyfdx · March 29

jipster said:
That 2007 Kia Optima was a good car for my daughter. Got her thru college, grad school, and 3 years of marriage. No real issues. Served us well as a backup for 2-3 years. Hate to see it go. Our driveway won't look the same. " alt="" height="20" />

Can't be having that junking up her new neighborhood..

oldfarmer50 · March 29

Michaell said:
Regarding used car prices, all of this turmoil is happening just as 3 year old leases are starting to be returned.

But, if you remember, 2022 was the year where not as many cars were sold, and an even fewer percentage of sales were leases. Meaning there are going to be a LOT fewer lease returns, which will make the value of them go up.

Swell.

You are going to start seeing a lot more former rentals on dealer lots. We have been pulling a ton of cars out of service to sell. Some only have low 20k mileage. The company must keep a close eye on developing trends and figures the time is right to shed inventory. We also are bringing in a lot of new cars. Perhaps they are getting a good deal on cars now and are loading up for the future.

kyfdx · March 29

Cut the grass for the first time, today.

5 months, and it started on the first pull. 🙂

stickguy · March 29

One of the best parts of an electric mower. No issues with starting after the engine gets all gummed up over the winter. Or having an empty can and having to run out to get it filled.

jipster · March 29

The steering being a bit stiff in turns and a short in the instrument cluster were my 2 main concerns. Engine a bit bouncy at lights. Had original cat. Codes were ? A/C? Anyhow, the first person to show up to look at the car buys it. Just had the title notarized, and was handed a stack of bills totaling the asking price of $1,450. Guess drinks are on the ole Jipster.

roadburner · March 29

On a BMW Club FB page someone posted the projected prices of new 2 Series cars built in Mexico. I replied that looking on the positive side, BMW had made the 2ers so ugly that I have no desire to buy one.

abacomike · March 29

@roadburner said:
On a BMW Club FB page someone posted the projected prices of new 2 Series cars built in Mexico. I replied that looking on the positive side, BMW had made the 2ers so ugly that I have no desire to buy one.

Well, that accounts for “one” lost sale - but I think BMW is more worried about 80,000+ lost sales, dontcha think? 😜🤪

jmonroe1 · March 29

kyfdx said:
I don't think you can find even a US-assembled domestic nameplate model that doesn't have at least 20% imported parts.

Also, if the competition has to raise their prices, then you can be sure that even a vehicle that isn't subject to tariffs will have their price go up, as well.

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That will definitely happen. However, I would like the media to ask those car execs why they raised their prices. I’m sure they’re formulating their response as I make this post but I’d still like to hear them defend it.

jmonroe

jmonroe1 · March 29

jipster said:
Buyer says she'll take it. Cash buyer at $1,450. Only code that showed was for the oxygen sensor... which was a bit surprising.

She wants me to sign title over at the bank and get notarized. Bank opens at 10.

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Unless that was part of the deal, I’d charge her mileage to and from the bank. I gather you had to eat the mileage cost to and from the auto parts so you shouldn’t be expected to do it again.

Oh, congrats on finding a sucker.

jmonroe

sda · March 29

jipster said:
The steering being a bit stiff in turns and a short in the instrument cluster were my 2 main concerns. Engine a bit bouncy at lights. Had original cat. Codes were ? A/C? Anyhow, the first person to show up to look at the car buys it. Just had the title notarized, and was handed a stack of bills totaling the asking price of $1,450. Guess drinks are on the ole Jipster. " alt="" height="20" />

Where, when? Congrats on the easy sale.

driver100 · March 29

The E400 is 8 years old (50k miles) and MrsD100s GLK is 10 years old (30000 miles).
I was thinking they just need an oil change this year so I might try an indie garage which worked quite well with the Florida car. Then I thought, the MB dealer is closer, they want me as a customer so they get me in asap if I have a problem, maybe they will give me more for them as trade-ins one day if we have all our servicing done by the dealer. Their service has always been reasonable, and the coffee, soup and sandwiches are good...plus wi-fi etc.
I made the appointments, and they mentioned they would need the car for most of the day because there was a free major software update they wanted to do on the E400.
So, my question is....if I had gone to the indie garage, would they have told me about the update, and would they have done the update or would I miss getting it done? Also, it is nice that since it is a long visit they will shuttle me home and back.

roadburner · March 29

driver100 said:
The E400 is 8 years old (50k miles) and MrsD100s GLK is 10 years old (30000 miles).
I was thinking they just need an oil change this year so I might try an indie garage which worked quite well with the Florida car. Then I thought, the MB dealer is closer, they want me as a customer so they get me in asap if I have a problem, maybe they will give me more for them as trade-ins one day if we have all our servicing done by the dealer. Their service has always been reasonable, and the coffee, soup and sandwiches are good...plus wi-fi etc.
I made the appointments, and they mentioned they would need the car for most of the day because there was a free major software update they wanted to do on the E400.
So, my question is....if I had gone to the indie garage, would they have told me about the update, and would they have done the update or would I miss getting it done? Also, it is nice that since it is a long visit they will shuttle me home and back.

Unless the indie shop has the proprietary Mercedes diagnostic equipment and software (Xentry) it is doubtful that they would even know an update is available- never mind being able to install it.

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