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Wife likes the smoothness of the 6, and I doubt I could convince her to go with a diesel.
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The umbrage enters when there are full court presses to further restrict DIESEL (& or other ) choices. Think about it, nobody on the gasser side threatens to ban, to hold up gassers when a gas or OEM admits or is found to be cheating on engine mpg &/or emissions. But then, the "SmartMoney" would make the diesel purchases now, when everybody is running scared.
More on-topic, we should get back on diesels, would you not agree?
Other than VW that is? (NY Times)
In regards to my post, you are totally ignoring what I said, thus, missing the point!
Should be easy enough to test for (good point about the fake mpg ratings causing more CO2), unless all the grant money dried up after the W. VA folks nailed VW.
A whole bunch of people spend a lot of effort and money, trying & succeeding to get VW to build in Chattanooga Tennessee! Same point !?
While I have not kept up with the differences in models between US and EU standards, for example, the 2003 Jetta TDI the EU model had a 6 speed MT, bigger injectors, vs US model 5 speed MT & smaller injectors, converting to more HP/TORQUE & 3 mpg better!? To match the EU model, AFTERMARKET is north of $6,500 US D.
Incidentally, it does meet or come under emission standards @ the time. I do wish however, that somebody would test it & find cheating, so I can get way more for the old model than I can score on the used car market!
MB E class 4matic? When will the D model (diesel) hit the US market?
Emissions Progress?http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/In-Gear/2016/0802/Volkswagen-diesel-modifications-begin-testing-in-California.-Can-faulty-cars-be-fixed
The other main factor was VW's interior hand a leg up on Subaru's.
No word on when the gas W213-based wagon will be here yet, no word on a 213 diesel sedan yet, we never got a 212 diesel wagon, so a diesel 213 wagon is maybe wishful thinking.
I'm glad you do not have to face some of CA winter chain control points. The CUV/SUV with 4 matic passes all but the most extreme ( R3 ) conditions. http://www.dot.ca.gov/trafficops/permits/winter.html
RT is excited @ the prospect of Skoda coming to the USA markets ! http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/news/a29432/skoda-us-sales-rumor/
More immenient, 2017 BMW diesels EPA approved! https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-approves-2017-bmw-diesel-sales-204959894--finance.html
Now, IF you mean that I'd pay the 30 years ago prices (adjusted, not same) & you'd pay the "now" prices, I'd take you up on it!
Be that as it may, Chevrolt is doing the diesel Cruse. http://www.autoblog.com/2016/08/03/second-gen-chevy-cruze-diesel/
Chevy (GM) has a very hot diesel offering in the compact truck market.
Most diesels compete in the much smaller (25% of PVF)) "small" car segment.
IN the much BIGGER (75% of PVF) large car to CUV/SUV, " light truck" segment. It is almost insane to claim the gas hybrid can meet and exceed the diesel, diesel hybrid. Indeed, if the gas hybrid could EXCEED TDI mpg, it would've been done, already!!
So, defacto, it is disingenuous to argue in favor of better mpg, while actually trying to limit, to getting rid of vehicles (like HIGHER mpg DIESELS) that actually POST HIGHER mpg !!! ???
So for example, it's easy to say that my large diesel CUV which posts 33 MPG would post 19 to 22 MPG (with a "RECOMMENDED" gasoline engine option) The diesel uses approximately 33% less fuel!! Or gets 50% better mpg!
So it's easy to see that the mandated action is to use MORE fuel!!! ???
To think that electrical cars have zero environmental impacts is/are fantasies to an exercise in insanity!
Indeed they can't even measure the REAL WORLD effects of vehicles like Prius in LALA LANDS smog.
Toyotas own data on lifecycle impacts data show that Prius creates just as much if not more waste streams than equivalent gas cars.
My guess even with 100% electrical cars, they still won't meet their smog goals!
As you know, I posted some time back the local government agency that actually provides real-time & world data!
Other times it looks like we're taking nothing but small steps....
I've been thinking about a fitting "hard labor" punishment for Winterkorn and the rest. Give them a set of Harbor Freight wrenches and hammers and make 'em dismantle and recycle a TDI every day of their sentence.
Maybe make the execs ride in a penalty box hybrid 200 miles a day for 5 years or live in an area contaminated by rare earths production for EV batteries. Oh wait, that pollution doesn't count
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