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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
I just accepted a the below lease (pending my trade-in value). Please let me know how did i do.
MSRP $51,715
Destination delivery $925
Total $52,640
Sale's price $44,400
Fee $298 (doc fee)
Tax & Title Fees $157
Ma tax $2,793
NET SALES $47,648
DUE AT SIGNING INCLUDING 1ST MONTH
$2,116 (includes 1st month payment, registration and basic lease accqusistion)
Lease term: 36 months with 15K/year
Monthly $498
MF. : They didn't provide me
Residual value - $31,584
I thought MA charges sales tax against the monthly payment, not up front. If I remove the tax from the net sales price, making it $44,855), the payment drops to $472.60.
Confirm with the dealer what the net capitalized cost is - if it's different from the net sales price above, get them to explain why.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
MSRP: $45,940
Selling Price: $37,963
Due at signing: $1616, includes taxes, docs, first month, acquisition fee.
Tax: 8%
Monthly: $361.99 a month, includes maintenance package.
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Looks like a great deal... Congrats!
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The maintenance package covers your regular service visits - oil changes, tire rotation, etc. It's different from the bumper to bumper warranty.
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What is the maintenance package you mentioned? I thought bumper to bumper was included and not additional.
Did the c300 have a sport package?
Does not have sport package.
Premium Package + Panoramic Sunroof, rearview camera,
No 27 month program
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- C300, MSRP: 47235 + nav ($600) + service.
- 7500 miles for 36 months
- Monthly payment $415 including tax + service.
Catch is: Its a CVP loaner car with something like 2000 miles on it. When I checked cars with similar features, (blind spot, backup camera, premium package, sunroof) as certified used cars, the MSRP is $40,500
I think I should have gone under $375/month for this car?
If you've already signed for it, don't stress about the deal. Enjoy driving the car for the next three years and come back before making your next deal.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
- C300 4Matic, MSRP$53,700 + $925 destination fee
- $6000 Due at signing, including first payment, $573.75 DMV fees, $75 Documentation fee
- Dealer said he can give me 12% discount, but I do not see a adjusted cap cost in the quote
- Residual 62%
- 36 months
- 12000miles/ year
- Monthly payment $464.92
How much of that $6K is down?
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On the quote dealer gave me of the $6000, $4886.33 is down, $464.92 is first payment, $573.75 is DMV fees and $75 Documentation fee.
Just an OK deal. Scroll back through the last few pages of posts to see what others have negotiated for selling prices and what their lease payments work out to.
Very possible the MF is marked up and the dealer is slipping in some extra fees on you.
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With my current number, does the dealer gave the correct monthly payment ?
MSRP $54545
Adjusted Cap Cost $47999
36 months, 12K /yr
$4886.33 down payment
What will the monthly payment be if I only put $2000 down ?
Thanks
Frank
With my current number, does the dealer gave the correct monthly payment ?
MSRP $54545
Adjusted Cap Cost $47999
36 months, 12K /yr
$4886.33 down payment
What will the monthly payment be if I only put $2000 down ?
Thanks
Frank
On a 36 month lease, every $1000 down reduces your payment by about $28/mo.
Using your MSRP and adjusted price from above, along with the base MF of .00136 and residual of 62%, I get a pre-tax payment of $519.03/mo
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Using your MSRP and adjusted price from above, along with the base MF of .00136 and residual of 62%, I get a pre-tax payment of $519.03/mo
Michaell,
Thanks for your response.
Just wonder how did you get $519.03 ? this doesn't include any down payment right ?
My calculation is:
Depreciation = (Adjust cap cost - Residual)/ 36 = (47999 - 33817.90)/36 = $393.92
Interest = (Adjusted cap cost + Residual) x Money factor = (47999 + 33817.90) x 0.00136 = 111.27
Total payment before tax = Depreciation + Interest = $505.19 (before TAX)
It doesn't match up with the quote I received from dealer, they quoted me $464.92/month (tax included) with 4886.33 down payment, if using the formula above with 4886.33 down, I should be paying less than $400 a month. Is my calculation wrong or the dealer used the higher money factor ?
Thanks for your response.
Just wonder how did you get $519.03 ? this doesn't include any down payment right ?
My calculation is:
Depreciation = (Adjust cap cost - Residual)/ 36 = (47999 - 33817.90)/36 = $393.92
Interest = (Adjusted cap cost + Residual) x Money factor = (47999 + 33817.90) x 0.00136 = 111.27
Total payment before tax = Depreciation + Interest = $505.19 (before TAX)
It doesn't match up with the quote I received from dealer, they quoted me $464.92/month (tax included) with 4886.33 down payment, if using the formula above with 4886.33 down, I should be paying less than $400 a month. Is my calculation wrong or the dealer used the higher money factor ?
I assumed the $47,999 selling price is before any down payment is made. My math works out the same as yours to get the $505.19/mo payment.
With 4886.63 down, the pre-tax payment would drop almost $136/mo to $369.45/mo
It's possible the dealer is marking up the MF on you; it's also possible that the net cap cost they are using is different than the $47,999 we are using in our calculations.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Also, he is telling me to wait for some loaners that are coming off lease. The thing is, these loaners are typically priced at a few thousand over a 15% discount, or at a 12% discount. Not sure if this is the smart way to go about a lease when compared to just getting the car new.
Also, read back through the last couple of pages of this discussion to see what others have been getting for discounts.
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No 27 month program for the C-class this month.
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Anyone have any luck getting dealer to include services and or tire package ? Seems like another 1800 for about 4 services over the course of 36mo 15k lease
Also if I were trading in a car worth $7k do I just have them cut a check and use that to pay my monthly or put that down to bring down monthly payments? Not sure how that works.
You can do it either way, but I'd rather have them cut me a check for the trade-in.
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C400 4 matic
36/10
.00136 MF and 63% residual
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2015 C 300W
36mth / 15k miles
MSRP: $45,330
Selling Price: $38,630 (actually I think it's a little less, I didn't get the updated price after we dropped payment another $11)
40k mile Maintenance included ($1,299)
Dealer Fees are ($450 Tag/Reg Fee, $99 Tag Agency Fee, $700 Dealer Fee)
$541/mth w/ $0 down OR
$520/mth w/ $650 down
*These include tax and I'm in FL.
I'm asked for $520 w/ $0 down and am waiting to hear back but wondering if I can do better?
Thanks in advance!
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