2015 Mercedes C Class Lease Questions

snakeslayer

snakeslayer said:

kyfdx said:

Would love input on this lease: 2015 C300 Sport MSRP $47,505 Discount. $5824 Sales price. $41,681 Tax. $186.52 Tags. $291.50 Doc Fee. $699.00 Acq Fee. $795.00 MF .00136 36/15 residual 63% Zero Down $452 per month including 7% sales tax.

$699 doc fee? Guessing this is Florida? The money factor is correct. Are you sure it's 15K/yr? The 36/15 residual is 60%. 63% would indicate 10K/yr. What is the amount due at signing?

Yes FL  Zero out of pocket)

You are correct residual is 63% and this is sign and drive no starts

kyfdx

ihatetocarshop said:

Can someone provide the money factor on a one time payment and let me know any thoughts on the deal.

About to pull the trigger.

C300 4matic P1 Pano roof
MSRP: 46,840.00
Selling: 41,727.40
Gross Cap: 42,902.40
Residual: 00.63
MF: 00.00056

It looks like you are getting the One-Pay discount of .00080 off of the subvented rate of .00136.

That almost never happens. usually, the One-Pay reduction is only available off of the standard rate.
What is the payment and money due upfront?

ihatetocarshop

kyfdx said:

ihatetocarshop said:

Can someone provide the money factor on a one time payment and let me know any thoughts on the deal.

About to pull the trigger.

C300 4matic P1 Pano roof
MSRP: 46,840.00
Selling: 41,727.40
Gross Cap: 42,902.40
Residual: 00.63
MF: 00.00056

It looks like you are getting the One-Pay discount of .00080 off of the subvented rate of .00136.

That almost never happens. usually, the One-Pay reduction is only available off of the standard rate.
What is the payment and money due upfront?

kyfdx,

Thanks for the response. We can use all the help we can get during this process.

Advanced payment: 14,250.99
Upfront Charges: 2,423.88 - I assume thats tax
Total out the door: 16,674.87

kyfdx

ihatetocarshop said:

kyfdx said:

ihatetocarshop said:

Can someone provide the money factor on a one time payment and let me know any thoughts on the deal.

About to pull the trigger.

C300 4matic P1 Pano roof
MSRP: 46,840.00
Selling: 41,727.40
Gross Cap: 42,902.40
Residual: 00.63
MF: 00.00056

It looks like you are getting the One-Pay discount of .00080 off of the subvented rate of .00136.

That almost never happens. usually, the One-Pay reduction is only available off of the standard rate.
What is the payment and money due upfront?

kyfdx,

Thanks for the response. We can use all the help we can get during this process.

Advanced payment: 14,250.99
Upfront Charges: 2,423.88 - I assume thats tax
Total out the door: 16,674.87

About $463/mo. including tax is a pretty good payment for that lease.

naplesbuyer

snakeslayer said:


Would love input on this lease:
2015 C300 Sport
MSRP $47,505
Discount. $5824
Sales price. $41,681
Tax. $186.52
Tags. $291.50
Doc Fee. $699.00
Acq Fee. $795.00
MF .00136

36/15 residual 63% Zero Down $452 per month including 7% sales tax.

I am having a hard time getting to the $452, I must be doing some calculating wrong. I am in florida too and would love to leave dealership with this monthly price

naplesbuyer

sorry, new poster, can someone calculate this one for me?

jkipster

mediagrx said:

Just picked up a 2015 C300 with premium package and sunroof. Orange County. MSRP: $45,940 Selling Price: $37,963 Due at signing: $1616, includes taxes, docs, first month, acquisition fee. Tax: 8% Monthly: $361.99 a month, includes maintenance package.

What was the MF and residual?

Michaell

naplesbuyer said:

snakeslayer said:


Would love input on this lease:
2015 C300 Sport
MSRP $47,505
Discount. $5824
Sales price. $41,681
Tax. $186.52
Tags. $291.50
Doc Fee. $699.00
Acq Fee. $795.00
MF .00136

36/15 residual 63% Zero Down $452 per month including 7% sales tax.

I am having a hard time getting to the $452, I must be doing some calculating wrong. I am in florida too and would love to leave dealership with this monthly price

I think some of the fees are being rolled into the cap cost. If I use the MSRP and selling price as is, along with the .00136 MF and 63% residual, I get $427/mo after tax.

macastel

Do you have numbers for a C400 sports/36 months, 12K miles/yr in PA?

Michaell

macastel said:

Do you have numbers for a C400 sports/36 months, 12K miles/yr in PA?

Standard MF (.00180-.00210) and 60%

macastel

Can you please give me your opinion on this deal? its an OK, bad or good deal?

2015 C400 Sport
MSRP $52,625
Discount. $4996.56
Sales price. $47628.44
Residual value:31,575
36 months
12K mi/yr
monthly payment (including 6% tax for FL) = $649
Amount due at lease: 1,131 = 649 (1st payment)+ 250 License fee+ 72.82 (MVWEA) +159.95 (EEF)

smiton

Can you give me the MF and residual on a C250 coupe for 36 months and 12000 mi (DC Metro Region)? I am willing to adjust the number of months if lease support is provided.

Thanks!

richardnva

I'm getting emails about MBs Memorial Day Sale, is anyone seeing any discounts beyond what's already quoted in this forum previously?

Michaell

smiton said:

Can you give me the MF and residual on a C250 coupe for 36 months and 12000 mi (DC Metro Region)? I am willing to adjust the number of months if lease support is provided.

Thanks!

.00109 and 61%

everard104

mediagrx said:

kyfdx said:

mediagrx said:

Just picked up a 2015 C300 with premium package and sunroof. Orange County.

MSRP: $45,940
Selling Price: $37,963
Due at signing: $1616, includes taxes, docs, first month, acquisition fee.
Tax: 8%
Monthly: $361.99 a month, includes maintenance package.

What term/mileage?

36 months/10k a year

What dealership was this at? I'm in SoCal also.

julio91

Does anyone know how Mercedes multiple security deposit work ? I live in south florida and I called 3 different dealerships and no one knows. I found out on the Mercedes website you able to put up to 10 and does not state for each security you put down how much it lowers the money factor. can anyone clarify ? or comment if they have done msd?

thanks guys

julio91

julio91 said:

Does anyone know how Mercedes multiple security deposit work ? I live in south florida and I called 3 different dealerships and no one knows. I found out on the Mercedes website you able to put up to 10 and does not state for each security you put down how much it lowers the money factor. can anyone clarify ? or comment if they have done msd?

thanks guys

@kyfdx

macastel

Guys any comments on my previous quote? I need to make a decision quick... Any input would be greatly appreciated

2015 C400 Sport
MSRP $52,625
Discount. $4996.56
Sales price. $47628.44
Residual value:31,575
36 months
12K mi/yr
monthly payment (including 6% tax for FL) = $649
Amount due at lease: 1,131 = 649 (1st payment)+ 250 License fee+ 72.82 (MVWEA) +159.95 (EEF)

Michaell

julio91 said:

Does anyone know how Mercedes multiple security deposit work ? I live in south florida and I called 3 different dealerships and no one knows. I found out on the Mercedes website you able to put up to 10 and does not state for each security you put down how much it lowers the money factor. can anyone clarify ? or comment if they have done msd?

thanks guys

First, security deposits for MB are available only if the standard MF is being used. If it's supported in any way (that is, less than the standard MF of .00180-.00210) then MSDs are not allowed. Nor are they allowed in NY State, by law.

As far as the particulars go, we don't have any hard details, but lots of folks have shared what they were able to negotiate - I do believe that a maximum of 10 can be applied, and each one reduces the MF by .00005

Michaell

macastel said:

Guys any comments on my previous quote? I need to make a decision quick... Any input would be greatly appreciated

2015 C400 Sport
MSRP $52,625
Discount. $4996.56
Sales price. $47628.44
Residual value:31,575
36 months
12K mi/yr
monthly payment (including 6% tax for FL) = $649
Amount due at lease: 1,131 = 649 (1st payment)+ 250 License fee+ 72.82 (MVWEA) +159.95 (EEF)

If I use .00210 as the MF, then I get a payment with tax of $649/mo.

You can use MSDs to buy down the MF, or negotiate a bigger discount from sticker.

flyersrule1

Michaell said:

snakeslayer said: Would love input on this lease: 2015 C300 Sport MSRP $47,505 Discount. $5824 Sales price. $41,681 Tax. $186.52 Tags. $291.50 Doc Fee. $699.00 Acq Fee. $795.00 MF .00136 36/15 residual 63% Zero Down $452 per month including 7% sales tax. I am having a hard time getting to the $452, I must be doing some calculating wrong. I am in florida too and would love to leave dealership with this monthly price

I think some of the fees are being rolled into the cap cost. If I use the MSRP and selling price as is, along with the .00136 MF and 63% residual, I get $427/mo after tax.

How are you getting 63% residual on a 36 mo 15k lease? Thought it's at 60%

kenyancowboy

Thanks to all of you guys! I just picked up my car. Here is my deal below:

Mercedes C300 sedan sport. MSRP 48060: P1 package, Multimedia package, spoiler, blind spot assist, pano roof.

3yrs, 12K miles/year, 3yrs maintenance incl
2K out of pocket and incl first month's payment

gross cap cost: 43335.15
Cap cost red:1042.31
Adjusted cap cost:42292.84
Residual:30401.7
Depreciation:11891.14
Rent charge:3297.6
Total monthly payments:15188.7
Base Payment:421
Tax (CA):37.
Total monthly: 459.98 incl tax & enrolled in autopay

Thanks again guys! I think I did good! ;-)

Michaell

flyersrule1 said:

Michaell said:

naplesbuyer said:

snakeslayer said:


Would love input on this lease:
2015 C300 Sport
MSRP $47,505
Discount. $5824
Sales price. $41,681
Tax. $186.52
Tags. $291.50
Doc Fee. $699.00
Acq Fee. $795.00
MF .00136

36/15 residual 63% Zero Down $452 per month including 7% sales tax.

I am having a hard time getting to the $452, I must be doing some calculating wrong. I am in florida too and would love to leave dealership with this monthly price

I think some of the fees are being rolled into the cap cost. If I use the MSRP and selling price as is, along with the .00136 MF and 63% residual, I get $427/mo after tax.

How are you getting 63% residual on a 36 mo 15k lease? Thought it's at 60%

Oops .. you are correct ... 60% for 36/15.

Michaell

kenyancowboy said:

Thanks to all of you guys! I just picked up my car. Here is my deal below:

Mercedes C300 sedan sport. MSRP 48060: P1 package, Multimedia package, spoiler, blind spot assist, pano roof.

3yrs, 12K miles/year, 3yrs maintenance incl
2K out of pocket and incl first month's payment

gross cap cost: 43335.15
Cap cost red:1042.31
Adjusted cap cost:42292.84
Residual:30401.7
Depreciation:11891.14
Rent charge:3297.6
Total monthly payments:15188.7
Base Payment:421
Tax (CA):37.
Total monthly: 459.98 incl tax & enrolled in autopay

Thanks again guys! I think I did good! ;-)

Yes you did. Congrats on the new C-class!

lifetime1

2015 C300 MF/Residual?

24mo/10K
24mo/12K

If available 27mo/10K or 30mo/10K

Thanks

Michaell

lifetime1 said:

2015 C300 MF/Residual?

24mo/10K
24mo/12K

If available 27mo/10K or 30mo/10K

Thanks

.00136 and 68% for 24/12. Add 1% for 10K

No 27 month program for the C-class this month.

30/10 residual is 64%

carcrazy1225

Hello. Would appreciate it if you could check my numbers on the following offer for a 36/10k lease on a C300W4 (AWD):
MSRP $46,840
Sales Price: $40,904
Residual @ 63%: $29,509.2
Destination & Delivery: $925 (this is already included in the Sales Price)
Fees: $595 (Doc, Filing, License, Title)
VA Taxes (Gross Receipts 0.2%+Sales 4.05%+Service 2.65%)=6.9%
Money Factor: .00136 and .00180

I get a monthly payment of $443 and $473 respectively.
The dealer quoted .00180 and I want to get closer to .00136 so that's why I'm looking at the spread between the two.
Did I calculate that correctly?
I'm not sure where to put some of this info on the Edmunds calculator so I created a spreadsheet based on the online lease article.
Appreciate your help.
Thanks!

kyfdx

carcrazy1225 said:

Hello. Would appreciate it if you could check my numbers on the following offer for a 36/10k lease on a C300W4 (AWD):
MSRP $46,840
Sales Price: $40,904
Residual @ 63%: $29,509.2
Destination & Delivery: $925 (this is already included in the Sales Price)
Fees: $595 (Doc, Filing, License, Title)
VA Taxes (Gross Receipts 0.2%+Sales 4.05%+Service 2.65%)=6.9%
Money Factor: .00136 and .00180

I get a monthly payment of $443 and $473 respectively.
The dealer quoted .00180 and I want to get closer to .00136 so that's why I'm looking at the spread between the two.
Did I calculate that correctly?
I'm not sure where to put some of this info on the Edmunds calculator so I created a spreadsheet based on the online lease article.
Appreciate your help.
Thanks!

Well.. a spreadsheet is always better..

Where is the acquisition fee? It's $795 base and dealer can mark it up to as much as $1095.

The other $595 in fees... Are you paying those upfront, or are they in the CAP cost?

VA taxes: What is "Service 2.65%". That's a big number. Also, I think VA charges tax on the full selling price of the car, so you'll have to add that into the CAP cost or pay it upfront.. it's not a tax on the monthly payment, so probably a lot bigger number than you are giving it.

The difference between the two money factors is about $30/mo.. you have that part right, so your spreadsheet is set up correctly.. Just need to know what amounts are paid upfront and what amounts are in the CAP cost.

carcrazy1225

CarMan,
Thanks for the feedback.
Great question on the Service tax... I don't know. If that's a "hidden" fee, I wouldn't know. Do you know what type of Tax rate I should see for VA?

Based on the documention I've seen from the dealer all of the fees that I'm seeing are included in the Net Sales Price. They're being ambiguous on giving me a line by line quote. I've been given a Net Sales Price and a quote for a monthly payment so I don't know if the fees are included in the price or not. I'm not doing any kind of cap cost reduction.

Would appreciate any other advice.
Thanks!

Michaell

carcrazy1225 said:

CarMan,
Thanks for the feedback.
Great question on the Service tax... I don't know. If that's a "hidden" fee, I wouldn't know. Do you know what type of Tax rate I should see for VA?

Based on the documention I've seen from the dealer all of the fees that I'm seeing are included in the Net Sales Price. They're being ambiguous on giving me a line by line quote. I've been given a Net Sales Price and a quote for a monthly payment so I don't know if the fees are included in the price or not. I'm not doing any kind of cap cost reduction.

Would appreciate any other advice.
Thanks!

Look at it this way .. we know the dealer has marked up the MF on you. Now they seem unwilling to break down the numbers to get a clear understanding of how they calculate the net cap cost and taxes.

Perhaps it's time to seek out a different MB dealer.

carcrazy1225

Based on your calculations, what type of a payment do you get for a car with a:
MSRP $46,840
Sales Price: $40,904
Residual @ 63%: $29,509.2
Destination & Delivery: $925 (this is already included in the Sales Price)
Fees: $595 (Doc, Filing, License, Title)
VA Taxes
Money Factor: .00136 and .00180
trying to see how close my calculation is to yours.
Thanks!

Michaell

carcrazy1225 said:

Based on your calculations, what type of a payment do you get for a car with a:
MSRP $46,840
Sales Price: $40,904
Residual @ 63%: $29,509.2
Destination & Delivery: $925 (this is already included in the Sales Price)
Fees: $595 (Doc, Filing, License, Title)
VA Taxes
Money Factor: .00136 and .00180
trying to see how close my calculation is to yours.
Thanks!

$440.73 with the lower MF and $473.85 with the higher MF.

carcrazy1225

Thanks! What rate did you use to calculate VA taxes?

Michaell

carcrazy1225 said:

Thanks! What rate did you use to calculate VA taxes?

Didn't you say it was 6.9%?

carcrazy1225

That's what was footnoted in a pricing offer:
VA Taxes (Gross Receipts 0.2%+Sales 4.05%+Service 2.65%)=6.9%

Looks like only 4.05% of that is Sales Tax, but I'm not sure if the 6.9% is a standard VA tax rate for leases, or if the dealer is marking up the rate with extra charges. I tried searching online and can't find a difinitive answer on tax rates in VA for leases.

Michaell

carcrazy1225 said:

That's what was footnoted in a pricing offer:
VA Taxes (Gross Receipts 0.2%+Sales 4.05%+Service 2.65%)=6.9%

Looks like only 4.05% of that is Sales Tax, but I'm not sure if the 6.9% is a standard VA tax rate for leases, or if the dealer is marking up the rate with extra charges. I tried searching online and can't find a difinitive answer on tax rates in VA for leases.

Reach out to a second MB dealer in VA and ask them what the tax obligations are for a lease. Compare to what the first dealer is telling you.

barnabyn

I am thinking of purchasing the c400 because the lease terms are not as good as the 300. I was quoted $47k with the $2500 USAA rebate on a sticker of $55.2k. Is that enough of a discount. Is that a good deal?

harishv

Can someone comment on the lease terms please?. Dont have the MF/Residual info handy...
in OR - so, no tax.

36mo/ 10k miles

300 4matic + sports package + premium + multimedia pckg -

MSRP: 50,780
discounts: 6,820
Non tax fees : 1,468
Final price: 45,428

Downpayment: 2,373
Monthly payments: 421.67

rissen

Hi,
could someone give me a monthly payment with tax for California on a 2015 C300 Sport RWD 4dr please?


MSRP: 52k
Final Price: 45k
36/10 and 24/10

How much would be the monthly w/ tax?
Thank you very much.

abhit

Hi guys,
I need some advice to judge how good this deal is for the C300. This is the base + premium pkg + pano roof + misc stuff.

This will be a 3 year 10k/yr miles lease.

Price : $45125
Delivery : $925
Total MSRP: $46050

Drive away (including 1st month payment) : $2500 (covers all fees etc.)
Monthly : $413.80 + 36.20( 8.75% tax) = $450

Residual Value : $29011 (63% of MSRP)

The dealer hinted that he is willing to bring the monthly further down, but I said I needed a day or so to think.

Is this a good deal? Is there room for negotiation? If so, what should be my strategy?
Are there any addons that I can ask for in the negotiation like include paid future servicing etc?

P.S.:I do not have the MF spelled out from the dealer and it would be great if someone can tell me how to calculate it from the given info.

jackielily

How do you gus think ofsunvisor like the picture show?

Michaell

barnabyn said:

I am thinking of purchasing the c400 because the lease terms are not as good as the 300. I was quoted $47k with the $2500 USAA rebate on a sticker of $55.2k. Is that enough of a discount. Is that a good deal?

I don't track selling prices; you may want to read back through the last couple of pages in this thread to see what kind of discount others are getting on the C400.

Michaell

harishv said:

Can someone comment on the lease terms please?. Dont have the MF/Residual info handy...
in OR - so, no tax.

36mo/ 10k miles

300 4matic + sports package + premium + multimedia pckg -

MSRP: 50,780
discounts: 6,820
Non tax fees : 1,468
Final price: 45,428

Downpayment: 2,373
Monthly payments: 421.67

.00136 and 63% for 36/10.

Using your MSRP and Final Price, I get a payment of $478.53/mo. How much of the $2373 going to cap cost reduction?

Michaell

rissen said:

Hi,
could someone give me a monthly payment with tax for California on a 2015 C300 Sport RWD 4dr please?


MSRP: 52k
Final Price: 45k
36/10 and 24/10

How much would be the monthly w/ tax?
Thank you very much.

.00136 and 63% for 36/10; .00136 and 69% for 24/10.

Using your MSRP and Final Price, I get a pre-tax payment of $446/mo for 36 months and $490/mo for 24 months.

What is the tax rate where you live?

Michaell

abhit said:

Hi guys,
I need some advice to judge how good this deal is for the C300. This is the base + premium pkg + pano roof + misc stuff.

This will be a 3 year 10k/yr miles lease.

Price : $45125
Delivery : $925
Total MSRP: $46050

Drive away (including 1st month payment) : $2500 (covers all fees etc.)
Monthly : $413.80 + 36.20( 8.75% tax) = $450

Residual Value : $29011 (63% of MSRP)

The dealer hinted that he is willing to bring the monthly further down, but I said I needed a day or so to think.

Is this a good deal? Is there room for negotiation? If so, what should be my strategy?
Are there any addons that I can ask for in the negotiation like include paid future servicing etc?

P.S.:I do not have the MF spelled out from the dealer and it would be great if someone can tell me how to calculate it from the given info.

.00136 and 63% for 36 months, 10,000 miles per year.

We would need to know the negotiated selling price in order to model a payment for you. It's not a good idea to negotiate the payment - too much opportunity for the dealer to manipulate the numbers in their favor.

RonA13

Hi wondering if you had feedback on the following deal on a C300 4-Matic Sport 36mo/12K:

MSRP: $48,255
3yr Maintenance Package: $975
Discount: $2,571
Fleet Discount (apparently a discount due to my employer): $2,500
Sales price: $43,154
Tax: $47.95 per month (7% county tax & 3% state tax)
Tags: $157.15
Doc Fees or other Dealer Fees: $134
Acq Fee. $895
Residual: 62%
MF .00136

Payment: $527.44
Due at Signing: $1803 (must be tax, tag, acq, doc, and the rest being a cap cost reduction)

Overall, It think the lease details are reasonable but perhaps the discount could increase. Also, what is the additional discount for setting up autopay?

Thanks!

Michaell

RonA13 said:

Hi wondering if you had feedback on the following deal on a C300 4-Matic Sport 36mo/12K:

MSRP: $48,255
3yr Maintenance Package: $975
Discount: $2,571
Fleet Discount (apparently a discount due to my employer): $2,500
Sales price: $43,154
Tax: $47.95 per month (7% county tax & 3% state tax)
Tags: $157.15
Doc Fees or other Dealer Fees: $134
Acq Fee. $895
Residual: 62%
MF .00136

Payment: $527.44
Due at Signing: $1803 (must be tax, tag, acq, doc, and the rest being a cap cost reduction)

Overall, It think the lease details are reasonable but perhaps the discount could increase. Also, what is the additional discount for setting up autopay?

Thanks!

With the numbers you've provided, I get a payment of $513.75 after 10% tax. There is about $500 unaccounted for somewhere.

Acquisition fee is marked up $100, FWIW.

Autopay discount is .0001 on the MF, or .00126; this would save about $5-10/mo on the payment.

RonA13

I forgot first months payment is included in the 1803 due at signing. Probably where the 500 is. 

Michaell

RonA13 said:

I forgot first months payment is included in the 1803 due at signing. Probably where the 500 is. 

OK

abhit

Michaell said:

abhit said:

Hi guys,
I need some advice to judge how good this deal is for the C300. This is the base + premium pkg + pano roof + misc stuff.

This will be a 3 year 10k/yr miles lease.

Price : $45125
Delivery : $925
Total MSRP: $46050

Drive away (including 1st month payment) : $2500 (covers all fees etc.)
Monthly : $413.80 + 36.20( 8.75% tax) = $450

Residual Value : $29011 (63% of MSRP)

The dealer hinted that he is willing to bring the monthly further down, but I said I needed a day or so to think.

Is this a good deal? Is there room for negotiation? If so, what should be my strategy?
Are there any addons that I can ask for in the negotiation like include paid future servicing etc?

P.S.:I do not have the MF spelled out from the dealer and it would be great if someone can tell me how to calculate it from the given info.

.00136 and 63% for 36 months, 10,000 miles per year.

We would need to know the negotiated selling price in order to model a payment for you. It's not a good idea to negotiate the payment - too much opportunity for the dealer to manipulate the numbers in their favor.

The negotiated Selling price was around $39200.
How good is this deal?

Thanks,
Abhinav