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  • apdspiderapdspider Member Posts: 61
    thank you
  • myautoshopmyautoshop Member Posts: 3
    edited July 2016
    Hello Michaell,
    Please let me know if its a good deal to go for lease 2016 MDX AWD Tech, NJ. I am new to lease.

    Dealer is quoting me $535 including tax with no down payment.

    Thanks a lot.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,535

    Hello Michaell,
    Please let me know if its a good deal to go for lease 2016 MDX AWD Tech, NJ. I am new to lease.

    Dealer is quoting me $535 including tax with no down payment.

    Thanks a lot.

    Need to know the MSRP and selling price, or adjusted CAP cost.
    Also, term and mileage allowance.

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  • apdspiderapdspider Member Posts: 61
    kyfdx said:

    Hello Michaell,
    Please let me know if its a good deal to go for lease 2016 MDX AWD Tech, NJ. I am new to lease.

    Dealer is quoting me $535 including tax with no down payment.

    Thanks a lot.

    Need to know the MSRP and selling price, or adjusted CAP cost.
    Also, term and mileage allowance.
    I'm no expert... but I estimate FL $535/mo for the TECH AWP FWD model... so you deal seems great to me. But again, that's my opinion. Like the Moderator said, need more info to know exactly.
  • myautoshopmyautoshop Member Posts: 3
    kyfdx said:

    Hello Michaell,
    Please let me know if its a good deal to go for lease 2016 MDX AWD Tech, NJ. I am new to lease.

    Dealer is quoting me $535 including tax with no down payment.

    Thanks a lot.

    Need to know the MSRP and selling price, or adjusted CAP cost.
    Also, term and mileage allowance.
    Please find the details,
    MSRP: $50,250
    Selling Price: $44,150
    Term: 36 months
    Mileage: 10K per year

    Thank you so much, I really appreciate your response.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,535

    kyfdx said:

    Hello Michaell,
    Please let me know if its a good deal to go for lease 2016 MDX AWD Tech, NJ. I am new to lease.

    Dealer is quoting me $535 including tax with no down payment.

    Thanks a lot.

    Need to know the MSRP and selling price, or adjusted CAP cost.
    Also, term and mileage allowance.
    Please find the details,
    MSRP: $50,250
    Selling Price: $44,150
    Term: 36 months
    Mileage: 10K per year

    Thank you so much, I really appreciate your response.
    .00020 MF and 56% residual. $1750 lease cash.

    Without tax or any additions, $459/mo.
    To get to $535/mo, you need about $2700 more on the CAP cost.
    About $1200 in tax, $595 acquisition fee. That leaves about $900 more for title/registration/doc, etc.. That's assuming that $535/mo. is the full amount due at signing.

    If that sounds right, then the numbers add up.

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  • myautoshopmyautoshop Member Posts: 3
    Thank you so much, so looks like its a good deal to go.
  • sriincalsriincal Member Posts: 2
    Hello Michael,
    Looking to lease a 2016 MDX AWD Tech. I received quotes of $520/month with 2K down.
    I am in CA

    MSRP: 50380
    Selling price: 45100
    Terms : 12K miles per year for 36 months

    Can you please let me know if this is a good deal
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,535
    sriincal said:

    Hello Michael,
    Looking to lease a 2016 MDX AWD Tech. I received quotes of $520/month with 2K down.
    I am in CA

    MSRP: 50380
    Selling price: 45100
    Terms : 12K miles per year for 36 months

    Can you please let me know if this is a good deal

    .00020 MF and 55% residual. $1750 lease cash.

    If the $2000 covers 1st payment, title/doc fees and $595 acquisition fee (and it should, with some left over), then $498/mo.+tax.

    Find out how much of the $2000 goes to CAP cost reduction (and, the resulting adjusted CAP cost).

    If you are happy with the selling price, then it looks good.

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  • seant319seant319 Member Posts: 4
    I have had two dealers quote me on selling price and then say they will not include lease cash for the 2016 AWD with Technology MDX (lease cash is 1750). Is there anything I should say in response or should I just keep looking elsewhere?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,164
    seant319 said:

    I have had two dealers quote me on selling price and then say they will not include lease cash for the 2016 AWD with Technology MDX (lease cash is 1750). Is there anything I should say in response or should I just keep looking elsewhere?

    It is up to the dealer whether to pass along the lease cash or not.

    Obviously, you want to find a dealer who will. I'm sure there's one out there.

    Keep looking.

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  • seant319seant319 Member Posts: 4
    Thanks Michaell
  • sriincalsriincal Member Posts: 2
    Thanks Michael for your inputs
  • seant319seant319 Member Posts: 4
    I have one more question- dealer is saying residual is 53% for 2016 AWD Tech MDX for 15/36. Is that accurate? I thought I read that it was 54% a few pages back in this thread. Then I have 55% for 12/36, and 56% for 10/36.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,535
    seant319 said:

    I have one more question- dealer is saying residual is 53% for 2016 AWD Tech MDX for 15/36. Is that accurate? I thought I read that it was 54% a few pages back in this thread. Then I have 55% for 12/36, and 56% for 10/36.

    53% is correct for 36/15.

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  • antons911antons911 Member Posts: 66
    What is mf and rv on 2016 MDX Advanced AWD on 36/10? Thank you.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,535
    antons911 said:

    What is mf and rv on 2016 MDX Advanced AWD on 36/10? Thank you.

    .00020 MF and 56% residual. $1500 lease cash.

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  • whisperz1whisperz1 Member Posts: 11
    Can I please have an opinion on this deal, a good deal or no? Thank you.

    2016 MDX Base trim FWD
    MSRP $43805
    $41805 Selling Price
    $4500 OTD
    35 payments of 410.91 with tax
    10k miles per year
    36 month lease term
  • whisperz1whisperz1 Member Posts: 11
    edited July 2016
    Can you please determine whats the MF from above numbers? And is there incentives on Base trims?
    Thank you very much.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,164
    whisperz1 said:

    Can I please have an opinion on this deal, a good deal or no? Thank you.

    2016 MDX Base trim FWD
    MSRP $43805
    $41805 Selling Price
    $4500 OTD
    35 payments of 410.91 with tax
    10k miles per year
    36 month lease term

    whisperz1 said:

    Can you please determine whats the MF from above numbers? And is there incentives on Base trims?
    Thank you very much.

    Numbers this month are .00020 and 58% for 36/10.

    What state and tax rate is this?

    What does the $4500 cover?

    As is, your numbers give me a payment of $469/mo before tax.

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  • whisperz1whisperz1 Member Posts: 11
    edited July 2016
    Is the MF the same nationwide or regional, and is this negotiable? State is Hawaii, 4.5 or 4.16% the $4.5K is everything included (1st month included too I assume)
    Thank you.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,164
    whisperz1 said:

    Is the MF the same nationwide or regional, and is this negotiable? State is Hawaii, 4.5 or 4.16% the $4.5K is everything included (1st month included too I assume)
    Thank you.

    The Acura numbers are national.

    MF can be marked up for extra profit (though we don't see that a lot with Acura), and the residual value is fixed by the bank and cannot be modified.

    We need a breakdown of the $4500 ...

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  • whisperz1whisperz1 Member Posts: 11
    Got the rest of the values please comment and dissect if deal is solid or no. Thank you very much.

    Reiterating from above,
    2016 MDX Base trim FWD
    MSRP $43805 (*from dealer site its $43955)
    $41805 Selling Price
    $4500 OTD (*I'm adding $1.5K to lower monthly under 400 and possibly purchase later "IF")
    35 payments of 410.91 with tax
    10k miles per year
    36 month lease term
    Hawaii (4.5 or 4.16%)

    Additional information just received,
    3244.61 Cash Cap Reduction
    382.69 License and Safety Check
    295 Doc Fee
    595 Acq Fee
    832.43 Total Taxes
    MF .00020
    RV 25,493.90
    6,000 drive off 367.74 monthly

    I would appreciate as much information as possible. Thanks.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,535
    whisperz1 said:

    Got the rest of the values please comment and dissect if deal is solid or no. Thank you very much.

    Reiterating from above,
    2016 MDX Base trim FWD
    MSRP $43805 (*from dealer site its $43955)
    $41805 Selling Price
    $4500 OTD (*I'm adding $1.5K to lower monthly under 400 and possibly purchase later "IF")
    35 payments of 410.91 with tax
    10k miles per year
    36 month lease term
    Hawaii (4.5 or 4.16%)

    Additional information just received,
    3244.61 Cash Cap Reduction
    382.69 License and Safety Check
    295 Doc Fee
    595 Acq Fee
    832.43 Total Taxes
    MF .00020
    RV 25,493.90
    6,000 drive off 367.74 monthly

    I would appreciate as much information as possible. Thanks.

    $2000 off doesn't seem like a great deal, considering there is a $500 incentive for the dealer from Acura, but this is Hawaii. I'll guess there isn't much competition from other Acura dealers.

    Using your figures and the base rates (.00020 MF and 58% residual), I get $376/mo.
    The dealer site has the correct MSRP, as it corresponds with the residual amount.

    I wouldn't make that big CAP reduction. You aren't really saving any money, and though it might lower the payment a corresponding amount, it doesn't change the residual, or make the car any cheaper to buy at lease end. (it's still 58% of MSRP).

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  • whisperz1whisperz1 Member Posts: 11
    edited August 2016
    I will include that $500 incentive in the negotiation I think there are only 2 dealership here. I'm thinking of going with the the 4.5K everything and 410.91 monthly.

    On the Math, Is the adjusted CAP cost $38577.69? I got that by subtracting $3227.31 from sell price a number which I got from removing the doc fee/acq fee/license from $4500 total out the door number. Did I get this right? Any other areas I could try to negotiate besides the $500 incentive.

    Thank you.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,535
    whisperz1 said:

    I will include that $500 incentive in the negotiation I think there are only 2 dealership here. I'm thinking of going with the the 4.5K everything and 410.91 monthly.

    On the Math, Is the adjusted CAP cost $38577.69? I got that by subtracting $3227.31 from sell price a number which I got from removing the doc fee/acq fee/license from $4500 total out the door number. Did I get this right? Any other areas I could try to negotiate besides the $500 incentive.

    Thank you.

    That's how I figured it.

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  • jiho0101jiho0101 Member Posts: 4
    Hi can you please give me August MF, Residual, lease cash (if any) for 2016 MDX Tech pkg for 36mo/10K in California (if this matters). Please provide both for FWD & SH-AWD
    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,164
    jiho0101 said:

    Hi can you please give me August MF, Residual, lease cash (if any) for 2016 MDX Tech pkg for 36mo/10K in California (if this matters). Please provide both for FWD & SH-AWD
    Thanks!

    .00020 and 56%. Both FWD and SH-AWD.

    $1750 lease cash.

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  • jiho0101jiho0101 Member Posts: 4
    Michaell said:

    jiho0101 said:

    Hi can you please give me August MF, Residual, lease cash (if any) for 2016 MDX Tech pkg for 36mo/10K in California (if this matters). Please provide both for FWD & SH-AWD
    Thanks!

    .00020 and 56%. Both FWD and SH-AWD.

    $1750 lease cash.
    Oh, so no change from July.
    Thanks!
  • GridmedGridmed Member Posts: 2
    I have the current lease offer in Arizona:

    2016 MDX AWD Tech
    15k miles/36 months
    MSRP 49,440
    Total down (including first payment, fees, title, tax) = $1250
    Monthly payment including tax: $620

    It seems like there are significantly better offers on the table in this forum. Am I getting a good deal, or should I continue to negotiate a bit?

    Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,535
    Gridmed said:

    I have the current lease offer in Arizona:

    2016 MDX AWD Tech
    15k miles/36 months
    MSRP 49,440
    Total down (including first payment, fees, title, tax) = $1250
    Monthly payment including tax: $620

    It seems like there are significantly better offers on the table in this forum. Am I getting a good deal, or should I continue to negotiate a bit?

    Thanks!

    To evaluate the deal, you need the numbers that go into the calculation. Specifically, the selling price and adjusted CAP cost.

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  • GridmedGridmed Member Posts: 2
    kyfdx said:

    Gridmed said:

    I have the current lease offer in Arizona:

    2016 MDX AWD Tech
    15k miles/36 months
    MSRP 49,440
    Total down (including first payment, fees, title, tax) = $1250
    Monthly payment including tax: $620

    It seems like there are significantly better offers on the table in this forum. Am I getting a good deal, or should I continue to negotiate a bit?

    Thanks!

    To evaluate the deal, you need the numbers that go into the calculation. Specifically, the selling price and adjusted CAP cost.
    The selling price is $45,910 with a CAP of $49,628.

    Thanks so much for your help!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,535
    Gridmed said:

    kyfdx said:

    Gridmed said:

    I have the current lease offer in Arizona:

    2016 MDX AWD Tech
    15k miles/36 months
    MSRP 49,440
    Total down (including first payment, fees, title, tax) = $1250
    Monthly payment including tax: $620

    It seems like there are significantly better offers on the table in this forum. Am I getting a good deal, or should I continue to negotiate a bit?

    Thanks!

    To evaluate the deal, you need the numbers that go into the calculation. Specifically, the selling price and adjusted CAP cost.
    The selling price is $45,910 with a CAP of $49,628.

    Thanks so much for your help!
    .00020 MF and 53% residual. $1750 lease cash.

    I get $665/mo. with that CAP cost. Is that a typo? How did we get $3700 more on top of the selling price?

    Either way, it seems high. With $1750 lease cash, the effective discount from MSRP is only another $1700. That is kind of puny. I'd negotiate more, and maybe introduce some competition.

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  • whisperz1whisperz1 Member Posts: 11
    edited August 2016
    Please comment on a new offer. Thank you.

    Please see on page 41 for some more information. (Values for the Fees and Title, from different county but should be reusable no?)
    MSRP is $43955, 379 per Month, .00020 MF, Sell Price 40055, Adjusted CAP 38119.42 and 3500 Down out the door total. Is that enough to evaluate the deal? Now a solid deal or still high?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,164
    whisperz1 said:

    Please comment on a new offer. Thank you.

    Please see on page 41 for some more information. (Values for the Fees and Title, from different county but should be reusable no?)
    MSRP is $43955, 379 per Month, .00020 MF, Sell Price 40055, Adjusted CAP 38119.42 and 3500 Down out the door total. Is that enough to evaluate the deal? Now a solid deal or still high?

    How does the $3500 up front break down? Is any of it being used as cap reduction?

    Relative to MSRP, it looks like a solid payment.

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  • whisperz1whisperz1 Member Posts: 11
    edited August 2016
    I'm assuming $1935.58 will be from that 3.5K to bring it to that adjusted CAP. Above info is all I have, I'm thinking I could re-use the numbers from a different dealership to fill like from page 41 of this forum of my post.
    382.69 License and Safety Check
    295 Doc Fee
    595 Acq Fee
    832.43 Total Taxes (from a different county this is 4.5%, what I have is 4.16%)
    MF .00020
    RV 25,493.90

    Subtracting license, doc, acq and $1935.58 remains $288 unaccounted for maybe this is salesman commissions?

    Another question is it cheaper to buy additional miles now during signing? Any ideas how much?
    Only got 2 dealership to work with I'm thinking that's it, Time to deal?

    Thank you.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,164
    edited August 2016
    whisperz1 said:

    I'm assuming $1935.58 will be from that 3.5K to bring it to that adjusted CAP. Above info is all I have, I'm thinking I could re-use the numbers from a different dealership to fill like from page 41 of this forum of my post.
    382.69 License and Safety Check
    295 Doc Fee
    595 Acq Fee
    832.43 Total Taxes (from a different county this is 4.5%, what I have is 4.16%)
    MF .00020
    RV 25,493.90

    Subtracting license, doc, acq and $1935.58 remains $288 unaccounted for maybe this is salesman commissions?

    Another question is it cheaper to buy additional miles now during signing? Any ideas how much?
    Only got 2 dealership to work with I'm thinking that's it, Time to deal?

    Thank you.

    The $1935 in cap reduction results in a decrease of your payment by about $54/mo. Better to keep that money in your pocket and only pay the taxes and fees up front. If the car is stolen or totaled, you'd lose that money.

    EDIT - extra miles up front will cost somewhere between .15-.25/mile. Don't have the exact rate.

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  • angel933angel933 Member Posts: 9
    Looking at a 2016 MDX SH-awd with Tech
    36 months with 20K miles a year
    MSRP $50,230
    Selling price $43,812
    adjusted cap cost $47,180 (This is sign and drive offer, taxes, fees rolled into payment, nothing due at signing.
    NJ 7% tax, bank fee $595, Dmv $399, tire tax $7.50, document fee $399, online processing fee $8.05)

    They give me a monthly of $629
    Does this seem right?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,164
    edited August 2016
    angel933 said:

    Looking at a 2016 MDX SH-awd with Tech
    36 months with 20K miles a year
    MSRP $50,230
    Selling price $43,812
    adjusted cap cost $47,180 (This is sign and drive offer, taxes, fees rolled into payment, nothing due at signing.
    NJ 7% tax, bank fee $595, Dmv $399, tire tax $7.50, document fee $399, online processing fee $8.05)

    They give me a monthly of $629
    Does this seem right?

    .00020 and 53% for 36/15. Extra miles are deducted on a per mile basis - don't know the exact rate, but likely .10-.25 per mile

    Using the 36/15 numbers with your prices, I get $586/mo. To get to $629, that equates to $1584 for the extra miles ($44/mo delta * 36 months) - divided by the 15,000 extra miles you want, that's about .10 1/2 cents per mile.

    Looks like a solid deal - only way to improve on it is to get a better selling price.

    EDIT - really, only $43/mo delta in payment. Still, the per mileage charge stays around .10

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  • st2016carst2016car Member Posts: 4
    Hi, Do you have MF and RV for 2016 MDX AWD Tech Package in NY/NJ areas? Thanks for the info.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,164
    st2016car said:

    Hi, Do you have MF and RV for 2016 MDX AWD Tech Package in NY/NJ areas? Thanks for the info.

    .00020 and 53% for 36/15.

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  • st2016carst2016car Member Posts: 4
    Thanks Michael, how about 24/10k and 36/10k?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,164
    st2016car said:

    Thanks Michael, how about 24/10k and 36/10k?

    56% for 36/10; 62% for 24/10

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  • sapsap Member Posts: 3
    Here is the Deal that i got for 2016 MDX FWD with Tech Package 36mon/15k in Northern CA.

    MSRP: 48,380
    Selling Price: 41,470
    Gross Cap cost: 42,065 (includes Acquisition fee, License fees)
    Rebate: 750

    Total Down: $1056.22 which includes 1st mon payment, Total Cap Reduction:- $750, upfront charges
    Monthly: 448.77 + Tax

    Is this is Good Deal? Can i go ahead with this one?

    Thanks in advance.
  • apdspiderapdspider Member Posts: 61
    Damn... get me that deal! disclaimer, I'm not a moderator or expert. Just shopping.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,164
    sap said:

    Here is the Deal that i got for 2016 MDX FWD with Tech Package 36mon/15k in Northern CA.

    MSRP: 48,380
    Selling Price: 41,470
    Gross Cap cost: 42,065 (includes Acquisition fee, License fees)
    Rebate: 750

    Total Down: $1056.22 which includes 1st mon payment, Total Cap Reduction:- $750, upfront charges
    Monthly: 448.77 + Tax

    Is this is Good Deal? Can i go ahead with this one?

    Thanks in advance.

    I get $470/mo plus tax with those numbers (.00020 MF and 53% MF).

    Your deal looks pretty good.

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  • sapsap Member Posts: 3
    Thanks Michaell
  • jiho0101jiho0101 Member Posts: 4
    I'm shopping for a 2016 MDX FWD Tech in Southern California. Should I wait for labor day special or pull the trigger now? Do you think they will have better money factor and/or better lease cash?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,164
    jiho0101 said:

    I'm shopping for a 2016 MDX FWD Tech in Southern California. Should I wait for labor day special or pull the trigger now? Do you think they will have better money factor and/or better lease cash?

    The current Acura numbers are valid through Labor Day; no changes expected until the Tuesday after the long weekend.

    You might be able to get a better discount from sticker then. But, every day the inventory shrinks, so getting your preferred trim and color combination becomes that much more difficult.

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  • acuramdx6acuramdx6 Member Posts: 1
    This the deal that I got in IL for 2016 MDX AWD Tech package with 36 months 12K/Year
    MSRP 50K 518/Month including tax with no down payment.DOC $150 and ERT$25.Residual is 27709

    Is it good deal? Is there a way to negotiate further?
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