2016 Ford Explorer Lease Questions

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  • beargator56beargator56 Member Posts: 35
    Hi! Looking for money factor / residual for 2016 Explorer Sport and estimation of the payment. Daytona Beach, FL area.

    36/10k
    48/10k

    MSRP: 51305
    Sale Price: 43k

    Thanks in advance!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,494
    emmybhtx said:

    Got a quote today for leasing a 2016 Explorer. They said $625/month for an XLT. This is with $625 down. $725 for the Limited with $800 down. These are 36/15 leases. These monthly payments seem crazy high to me. What monthly payment should I expect to get in Texas right now for an XLT with 202A or a Limited?

    Your leases in Texas are going to be higher because you pay sales tax against a full selling price. That said, $625 a month does seem a bit high. What is the MSRP and selling price?

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,494

    Hi! Looking for money factor / residual for 2016 Explorer Sport and estimation of the payment. Daytona Beach, FL area.

    36/10k
    48/10k

    MSRP: 51305
    Sale Price: 43k

    Thanks in advance!

    36/10–58% and .25%. $250 lease cash.

    48 month numbers are horrible

    With your prices, $375 per month plus tax

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  • emmybhtxemmybhtx Member Posts: 5
    Your leases in Texas are going to be higher because you pay sales tax against a full selling price. That said, $625 a month does seem a bit high. What is the MSRP and selling price?
    The XLT I asked about has a sale price listed at $35,021 before rebates (MSRP 39,335). The Limited is listed at $39,997 before rebates (MSRP 47,180). The guy didn't include the cap cost, mf or any other info in his quote.

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,494
    emmybhtx said:

    Your leases in Texas are going to be higher because you pay sales tax against a full selling price. That said, $625 a month does seem a bit high. What is the MSRP and selling price?

    The XLT I asked about has a sale price listed at $35,021 before rebates (MSRP 39,335). The Limited is listed at $39,997 before rebates (MSRP 47,180). The guy didn't include the cap cost, mf or any other info in his quote.



    Unless you plan on paying the taxes and fees up front, the selling price will have those items added in.

    MF is .25% (.00010) and the 36/15 residuals are 54% for the XLT and either 52% (Ltd 4WD) or 51% (Ltd FWD).

    Naturally the quotes are thin on information. Press them for the adjusted cap cost, the amount due at signing (and what it includes).

    Then, we can run the numbers to see if their payment quotes are legit or not (I'm guessing not).

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  • emmybhtxemmybhtx Member Posts: 5
    Michaell said:

    emmybhtx said:

    Your leases in Texas are going to be higher because you pay sales tax against a full selling price. That said, $625 a month does seem a bit high. What is the MSRP and selling price?

    The XLT I asked about has a sale price listed at $35,021 before rebates (MSRP 39,335). The Limited is listed at $39,997 before rebates (MSRP 47,180). The guy didn't include the cap cost, mf or any other info in his quote.

    Unless you plan on paying the taxes and fees up front, the selling price will have those items added in.

    MF is .25% (.00010) and the 36/15 residuals are 54% for the XLT and either 52% (Ltd 4WD) or 51% (Ltd FWD).

    Naturally the quotes are thin on information. Press them for the adjusted cap cost, the amount due at signing (and what it includes).

    Then, we can run the numbers to see if their payment quotes are legit or not (I'm guessing not).

    He said he was using invoice prices ($37,076 and $46,045) and a 2.25 MF which I assume means .00225. All of that seems high. He said I forfeit rebates when leasing as opposed to purchasing. Are there no current leasing incentives? He didn't provide amount due at signing except for proposing the $625/$800 down payments.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,494
    emmybhtx said:

    Michaell said:

    emmybhtx said:

    Your leases in Texas are going to be higher because you pay sales tax against a full selling price. That said, $625 a month does seem a bit high. What is the MSRP and selling price?

    The XLT I asked about has a sale price listed at $35,021 before rebates (MSRP 39,335). The Limited is listed at $39,997 before rebates (MSRP 47,180). The guy didn't include the cap cost, mf or any other info in his quote.

    Unless you plan on paying the taxes and fees up front, the selling price will have those items added in.

    MF is .25% (.00010) and the 36/15 residuals are 54% for the XLT and either 52% (Ltd 4WD) or 51% (Ltd FWD).

    Naturally the quotes are thin on information. Press them for the adjusted cap cost, the amount due at signing (and what it includes).

    Then, we can run the numbers to see if their payment quotes are legit or not (I'm guessing not).
    He said he was using invoice prices ($37,076 and $46,045) and a 2.25 MF which I assume means .00225. All of that seems high. He said I forfeit rebates when leasing as opposed to purchasing. Are there no current leasing incentives? He didn't provide amount due at signing except for proposing the $625/$800 down payments.


    There is a whopping $250 lease cash; dealer is correct, purchase incentives can not be used when leasing.

    And, the 2.25% is marked up from the base rate of .25%

    If the dealer doesn't want to be transparent with the numbers, it's probably time to move on to another dealer.

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  • emmybhtxemmybhtx Member Posts: 5
    ok the final offer he is giving me is
    $35,500 (XLT with 202A)
    .25%
    $470/month

    When I put the numbers in an online lease payment calculator, it's $410 a month. I know Texas will have more taxes included, but not an additional $60/month. Not sure where the discrepancy is.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,222
    emmybhtx said:

    ok the final offer he is giving me is
    $35,500 (XLT with 202A)
    .25%
    $470/month

    When I put the numbers in an online lease payment calculator, it's $410 a month. I know Texas will have more taxes included, but not an additional $60/month. Not sure where the discrepancy is.

    Texas taxes the full selling price.... so, $60/mo for tax is about right.

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  • rulloffrulloff Member Posts: 14
    edited June 2016
    .In SE Florida, how much will the residual be impacted from 12k to 15k on a 36 month lease?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,494
    rulloff said:

    .In SE Florida, how much will the residual be impacted from 12k to 15k on a 36 month lease?

    Subtract 2% from the residual to go from 12K to 15K

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  • rulloffrulloff Member Posts: 14
    Sorry, and what are the numbers on 36/12 RWD XLT, Limited & Sport in SE Florida. The ones I had were for '15
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,494
    rulloff said:

    Sorry, and what are the numbers on 36/12 RWD XLT, Limited & Sport in SE Florida. The ones I had were for '15

    .25% and $250 lease cash for all trims.

    XLT FWD - 56%
    Limited FWD - 53%
    Sport AWD - 57%

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  • eli0295eli0295 Member Posts: 4

    Thanks so much in advance for any feedback. Lease details provided by a northern New Jersey dealer.

    2016 Ford Explorer XLT AWD with navigation, dual moon roof and remote starter.

    MSRP: 43905
    Residual Value: 25525
    Interest rate: .25%
    Vehicle cost: 42000
    Lease terms: 36 months with 10500 miles
    Taxes: 1599.54
    Plates & registration: 200
    Bank fee: 645
    Title & documentation fee: 289
    Due at signing: 550
    First payment due 8/1: 486

    My fiancé has 5 payments left on her lease, the dealer stated they will cover the cost of those payment. Does this sound like a good deal? Thanks again... EL
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,494
    eli0295 said:


    Thanks so much in advance for any feedback. Lease details provided by a northern New Jersey dealer.

    2016 Ford Explorer XLT AWD with navigation, dual moon roof and remote starter.

    MSRP: 43905
    Residual Value: 25525
    Interest rate: .25%
    Vehicle cost: 42000
    Lease terms: 36 months with 10500 miles
    Taxes: 1599.54
    Plates & registration: 200
    Bank fee: 645
    Title & documentation fee: 289
    Due at signing: 550
    First payment due 8/1: 486

    My fiancé has 5 payments left on her lease, the dealer stated they will cover the cost of those payment. Does this sound like a good deal? Thanks again... EL

    I get $466/mo with those numbers .. I would confirm the status of those last 5 payments ... they might be getting added in to the new lease. And, find out the adjusted capitalized cost.

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  • drmnc3623drmnc3623 Member Posts: 4
    Hello, can you share MF and residual value for 2016 XLT AWD, 36/12 and 39/12 in North Carolina. Thank you.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,494
    drmnc3623 said:

    Hello, can you share MF and residual value for 2016 XLT AWD, 36/12 and 39/12 in North Carolina. Thank you.

    36/12 - .25% and 56%
    39/12 - .50% and 54%

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  • pirate68pirate68 Member Posts: 1
    To piggyback off the last inquiry for North Carolina, what are MF and Residuals for 2016 Limited (FWD or AWD)? 36/10K miles and 39/10K miles. Thanks.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,222
    pirate68 said:

    To piggyback off the last inquiry for North Carolina, what are MF and Residuals for 2016 Limited (FWD or AWD)? 36/10K miles and 39/10K miles. Thanks.

    0.25% APR and 54%/55% residual for FWD/AWD for 36/10.

    0.50% APR and 52%/53% for 39/10

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  • bergagiobergagio Member Posts: 3
    Hi There and Happy 4th! I'm in California and looking at a 2016 Sport AWD:

    MSRP: $51305
    Negotiated price w/discounts $44,000
    Lease desired: 35/10k

    What does the residual/MF look like?

    Thank you!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,222
    bergagio said:

    Hi There and Happy 4th! I'm in California and looking at a 2016 Sport AWD:

    MSRP: $51305
    Negotiated price w/discounts $44,000
    Lease desired: 35/10k

    What does the residual/MF look like?

    Thank you!

    0.25% APR and 58% residual. $1000 lease cash.

    Today is the last day for those numbers.

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  • hmcinc13hmcinc13 Member Posts: 14
    Lease numbers. 2016 explorer sport 401a package 36/10500. New York State any incentives? Mf and residual. Thx
  • bergagiobergagio Member Posts: 3
    Thanks kyfdx. I didn't end up pulling the trigger here in CA. What do July #s look like on the same car?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,222
    Sorry, we don't have the new Ford programs, yet.

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  • 210mike210mike Member Posts: 5
    edited July 2016
    Could you Sanity check a lease deal for me? I'm in Texas, looking at a 2016 Explorer Sport. Dealer is quoting 53% residual and 2.75% APR for a 39 month, 12k/yr lease and 750 lease cash. The APR seems high when just a week or two ago .5% was being quoted. I can see losing a couple points of residual with it being an outgoing model year.

    Are the numbers similar or better for a 2017? I was thinking about trying to snag a deal on a 2016 but if the numbers aren't that great might as well go with the '17.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,222
    210mike said:

    Could you Sanity check a lease deal for me? I'm in Texas, looking at a 2016 Explorer Sport. Dealer is quoting 53% residual and 2.75% APR for a 39 month, 12k/yr lease and 750 lease cash. The APR seems high when just a week or two ago .5% was being quoted. I can see losing a couple points of residual with it being an outgoing model year.

    Are the numbers similar or better for a 2017? I was thinking about trying to snag a deal on a 2016 but if the numbers aren't that great might as well go with the '17.

    We show 1.5% APR, but Ford has a ton of regions, and there could be variances. The residual is correct.

    Please post 2017 questions here:
    http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/41930/ford/explorer/2017-ford-explorer-lease-questions/p1?new=1

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  • ceerod3ceerod3 Member Posts: 13
    Hello all, just trying to compare if programs are better on 2016 or 2017 for the New Jersey area, may I please know what is the "RESIDUAL VALUE" and "MONEY FACTOR" for the 2016 Ford Explorer Sport for 36 MONTH and 12,000 MILES ? For the 2017 I have posted the question in its own forum of 2017, thank you for your help :smile:
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,494
    ceerod3 said:

    Hello all, just trying to compare if programs are better on 2016 or 2017 for the New Jersey area, may I please know what is the "RESIDUAL VALUE" and "MONEY FACTOR" for the 2016 Ford Explorer Sport for 36 MONTH and 12,000 MILES ? For the 2017 I have posted the question in its own forum of 2017, thank you for your help :smile:

    55% and 1.00%

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  • jmald4425jmald4425 Member Posts: 21
    hi...looking for the MF/Residual on a 2016 Explorer XLT AWD and Sport AWD. 36months/12k miles New York/CT lease. Thank You
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,222
    jmald4425 said:

    hi...looking for the MF/Residual on a 2016 Explorer XLT AWD and Sport AWD. 36months/12k miles New York/CT lease. Thank You

    1.25% APR and 54%/55% residual for XLT/Sport

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  • tommylee2tommylee2 Member Posts: 19
    Equipment Group 202A, FWD, XLT
    MSRP = $39,865
    CAP Cost= $37,477.27
    Leasing for 10,500 miles ,36 months, $3,500 down
    In Atlanta GA, MF and residual are .25% and 55% right? If so what would be the monthly? Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,494
    tommylee2 said:

    Equipment Group 202A, FWD, XLT
    MSRP = $39,865
    CAP Cost= $37,477.27
    Leasing for 10,500 miles ,36 months, $3,500 down
    In Atlanta GA, MF and residual are .25% and 55% right? If so what would be the monthly? Thanks!

    MF is 1.25% for July.

    With your prices, I get $463/mo.

    What is the breakdown of the $3500 due at signing?

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  • tommylee2tommylee2 Member Posts: 19
    Michaell said:

    tommylee2 said:

    Equipment Group 202A, FWD, XLT
    MSRP = $39,865
    CAP Cost= $37,477.27
    Leasing for 10,500 miles ,36 months, $3,500 down
    In Atlanta GA, MF and residual are .25% and 55% right? If so what would be the monthly? Thanks!

    MF is 1.25% for July.

    With your prices, I get $463/mo.

    What is the breakdown of the $3500 due at signing?
    Thanks Michaell, from the past post it seems to me the MF is only .25%, is it just July they changed to 1.25%? The MF for 2017 model is also 1.25% right?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,494
    tommylee2 said:

    Michaell said:

    tommylee2 said:

    Equipment Group 202A, FWD, XLT
    MSRP = $39,865
    CAP Cost= $37,477.27
    Leasing for 10,500 miles ,36 months, $3,500 down
    In Atlanta GA, MF and residual are .25% and 55% right? If so what would be the monthly? Thanks!

    MF is 1.25% for July.

    With your prices, I get $463/mo.

    What is the breakdown of the $3500 due at signing?
    Thanks Michaell, from the past post it seems to me the MF is only .25%, is it just July they changed to 1.25%? The MF for 2017 model is also 1.25% right?
    1.25% for 36 months on both 2016 and 2017 Explorer.

    Numbers changed as of July, so yes, they increased from previous months where the MF was only .25%

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  • tommylee2tommylee2 Member Posts: 19
    edited July 2016
    So that won't make sense leasing a 2016 on July, better go after the 2017 since same MF?
    They have a lease offer for 2016 right now, would that give me better deal?

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    @tommylee2 You can't just compare lease programs between two model years, without also comparing the available discounts on the respective models. I would assume that discounts/rebates on the 2016 would be a lot higher than on the 2017.

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  • ryansiebeckerryansiebecker Member Posts: 42
    Would I be able to have the MF and Residuals for the Platinum and Sport models? 36/10K please.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,222

    Would I be able to have the MF and Residuals for the Platinum and Sport models? 36/10K please.

    53%/56% residual for Platinum/Sport.

    What state?

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  • cristianh2010cristianh2010 Member Posts: 45
    July numbers for 2016

    explorer sport, 10,5/k/yr, 36 and 39 mo in Tennessee
    explorer Platinum, 10,5/k/yr, 36 and 39 mo in Tennessee

    Also do you have any numbers on the 2017 model yet? Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,222

    July numbers for 2016

    explorer sport, 10,5/k/yr, 36 and 39 mo in Tennessee
    explorer Platinum, 10,5/k/yr, 36 and 39 mo in Tennessee

    Also do you have any numbers on the 2017 model yet? Thanks!

    1.25% APR and 56%/54% residual for Sport, 53%/51% for Platinum.

    2017 lease discussion is here:
    http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/41930/ford/explorer/2017-ford-explorer-lease-questions#latest

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  • hamfist1hamfist1 Member Posts: 10
    Could you provide the residual/MF for 2016 Explorer Sport, 36mo/15k year for ZIP 48304?

    Thx!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,222
    hamfist1 said:

    Could you provide the residual/MF for 2016 Explorer Sport, 36mo/15k year for ZIP 48304?

    Thx!

    1.00% APR and 53% residual.

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  • cristianh2010cristianh2010 Member Posts: 45
    edited July 2016
    Are the numbers the same in Virginia?

    36/10.5
    Sport - 56%
    1.25% MF
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,494

    Are the numbers the same in Virginia?

    36/10.5
    Sport - 56%
    1.25% MF

    Yes they are the same in VA

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  • cristianh2010cristianh2010 Member Posts: 45
    Do you know or have any guess about if the 2016 explorer sport lease MF or residual will change for the better in August now that the 2017s are on the lot?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,222

    Do you know or have any guess about if the 2016 explorer sport lease MF or residual will change for the better in August now that the 2017s are on the lot?

    Ford only updates residuals quarterly, so those won't change next month.

    No clue what might happen to APRs.

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  • jjrnjjjrnj Member Posts: 13
    Are there any new programs (lease cash, etc) and new APRs for August? Looking at a 36/12 Explorer Sport in NJ

    Thanks!
  • antciam1antciam1 Member Posts: 36
    I am in VA looking at leasing a 2016 XLT at the end of the month. I was wondering if the August Residuals and MF are out? Looking for a 36 or 39/10.5 lease. Thank you
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,494
    jjrnj said:

    Are there any new programs (lease cash, etc) and new APRs for August? Looking at a 36/12 Explorer Sport in NJ

    Thanks!

    No change from the July numbers.

    1.00% and 55%

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,494
    antciam1 said:

    I am in VA looking at leasing a 2016 XLT at the end of the month. I was wondering if the August Residuals and MF are out? Looking for a 36 or 39/10.5 lease. Thank you

    No change from the July information ...

    1.25% and 55% for 36/10.5

    1.50% and 53% and 39/10.5

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