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2016 BMW 3-series Lease Questions

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  • ron181ron181 Member Posts: 7
    Bank fee 925

    First month payment 399

    Doc fee 389

    Nj mv 376

    Nj tire fee 7.50

    Tax 900.00

    1468.50 cap cost
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 258,861
    ron181 said:

    Bank fee 925

    First month payment 399

    Doc fee 389

    Nj mv 376

    Nj tire fee 7.50

    Tax 900.00

    1468.50 cap cost

    That gets me to about $4500 ... so, $400 unaccounted for.

    And, we don't recommend the cap reduction - that money would be lost if the car is stolen or totaled. I'm sure they included it to make the payment a nice attractive number. Without it, the payment would go up about $41/mo.

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  • ron181ron181 Member Posts: 7
    thank you for your inputs..So with Zero cap what is the best monthly rate leaving the rest same?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 258,861
    ron181 said:

    thank you for your inputs..So with Zero cap what is the best monthly rate leaving the rest same?

    $399 + $41 = $440/mo

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  • ron181ron181 Member Posts: 7
    Ok here are the Final numbers and please confirm if this looks good?

    328iX
    MSRP:47495
    Selling Price: 41795
    Down : 3235 ( First Month Payment :399+ reg Fee :314+ACQ fee:925+Doc fee:389+Tire fee :6+State Tax :594+Tax on Doc:28+Tax on ACQ:65+ Cap Reduction:515)
    Security Deposit: 2800
    State : NJ
    Monthly Payment:399

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 258,861
    ron181 said:

    Ok here are the Final numbers and please confirm if this looks good?

    328iX
    MSRP:47495
    Selling Price: 41795
    Down : 3235 ( First Month Payment :399+ reg Fee :314+ACQ fee:925+Doc fee:389+Tire fee :6+State Tax :594+Tax on Doc:28+Tax on ACQ:65+ Cap Reduction:515)
    Security Deposit: 2800
    State : NJ
    Monthly Payment:399

    What lease term and how many miles per year?

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  • ron181ron181 Member Posts: 7
    Ok here are the Final numbers and please confirm if this looks good?

    328iX
    MSRP:47495
    Selling Price: 41795
    Down : 3235 ( First Month Payment :399+ reg Fee :314+ACQ fee:925+Doc fee:389+Tire fee :6+State Tax :594+Tax on Doc:28+Tax on ACQ:65+ Cap Reduction:515)
    Security Deposit: 2800
    State : NJ
    Monthly Payment:399
    Lease Term: 3 Years
    Mile Per Year : 12K
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 258,861
    ron181 said:

    Ok here are the Final numbers and please confirm if this looks good?

    328iX
    MSRP:47495
    Selling Price: 41795
    Down : 3235 ( First Month Payment :399+ reg Fee :314+ACQ fee:925+Doc fee:389+Tire fee :6+State Tax :594+Tax on Doc:28+Tax on ACQ:65+ Cap Reduction:515)
    Security Deposit: 2800
    State : NJ
    Monthly Payment:399
    Lease Term: 3 Years
    Mile Per Year : 12K

    I get $392/mo with those numbers ... I wouldn't quibble over $250 ($7 x 36 months).

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  • SFWarriorsSFWarriors Member Posts: 16
    Hi - can I get the residual and money factor for the 2016 328; 10k miles/36 months.  San Francisco


    thanks a lot!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 260,695

    Hi - can I get the residual and money factor for the 2016 328; 10k miles/36 months.  San Francisco


    thanks a lot!

    .00138 MF and 63% residual

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  • bforbrianbforbrian Member Posts: 74
    I'm trying to calculate an estimated monthly for a lease in NY as accurately as possible for the following:
    -2016 BMW 340i xDrive
    -MSRP 58,625
    -Neg price 52,763
    -36/12k

    Could you kindly provide me with the MF, RV, and a total monthly out the door price as I would see at the dealer? (including bank fees, doc fee, tax, and any other fees I may pay that can be included into my monthly?)

    Thank you!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 258,861
    bforbrian said:

    I'm trying to calculate an estimated monthly for a lease in NY as accurately as possible for the following:
    -2016 BMW 340i xDrive
    -MSRP 58,625
    -Neg price 52,763
    -36/12k

    Could you kindly provide me with the MF, RV, and a total monthly out the door price as I would see at the dealer? (including bank fees, doc fee, tax, and any other fees I may pay that can be included into my monthly?)

    Thank you!

    .00138 and 62%

    If the negotiated price is the cap cost, then the payment would be $579/mo.

    Out the door costs include:

    First payment, bank fee ($925), dealer fee, sales tax and DMV costs.

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  • bforbrianbforbrian Member Posts: 74
    Thanks Michael.

    Can all of those costs (bank fee, dealer fee, sales tax and DMV) be included into my monthly?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 258,861
    bforbrian said:

    Thanks Michael.

    Can all of those costs (bank fee, dealer fee, sales tax and DMV) be included into my monthly?

    Everything but the DMV costs and (I think) the bank fee, but remember those costs are then subject to interest.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 260,695
    bforbrian said:

    Thanks Michael.

    Can all of those costs (bank fee, dealer fee, sales tax and DMV) be included into my monthly?

    You can definitely roll in the acquisition fee. It's taxable, either way.

    DMV fees might become taxable, if you roll them in.

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  • alkamanalkaman Member Posts: 14
    Are July MF/residuals available yet? Expect '16 #s to improve with the '17s coming?

    Looking for July MF/residual on 36/15k in New Jersey for 2016 340i xDrive and 328i xDrive. Thanks!
  • 2015a3tdi2015a3tdi Member Posts: 61
    It looks like 328i/328d residuals went up 3% overnight...did money factors change? Thanks!

    36/15 now 63% and money factor...
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 258,861
    alkaman said:

    Are July MF/residuals available yet? Expect '16 #s to improve with the '17s coming?

    Looking for July MF/residual on 36/15k in New Jersey for 2016 340i xDrive and 328i xDrive. Thanks!

    .00137 and 63% for both.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 258,861
    2015a3tdi said:

    It looks like 328i/328d residuals went up 3% overnight...did money factors change? Thanks!

    36/15 now 63% and money factor...

    MF is .00137 for July. I confirm the 63% residual for 36/15 for all 3-series models.

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  • tedcars476tedcars476 Member Posts: 102
    Hello!

    How about the 330e? Residual, MF, and incentive, 36 months/12k?

    Thanks!
  • shihaamsshihaams Member Posts: 12
    Hi,

    Are there any new incentives for July? Any loyalty credit?
  • SFWarriorsSFWarriors Member Posts: 16
    Hi

    What are July lease terms for:

    328i
    10k miles/36 months
    San Francisco
    Any incentives?

    My dealer is telling me that the residual went up 3% to 66%, but they lost $2000 of upfront cash incentives

    Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 260,695

    Hello!

    How about the 330e? Residual, MF, and incentive, 36 months/12k?

    Thanks!

    .00137 MF and 65% residual. $3000 lease credit.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 260,695
    shihaams said:

    Hi,

    Are there any new incentives for July? Any loyalty credit?

    Don't have incentive information, sorry.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 260,695

    Hi

    What are July lease terms for:

    328i
    10k miles/36 months
    San Francisco
    Any incentives?

    My dealer is telling me that the residual went up 3% to 66%, but they lost $2000 of upfront cash incentives

    Thanks!

    .00137 MF and 66% residual

    No apparent incentives

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  • mtruismmtruism Member Posts: 5
    hi guys - i locked in programs for a 340i RWD in April at 63% residual and .00135 MF for a 36/12 lease. Picking up the car in 2 weeks via PCD, wondering if the programs in July are better for 36/12 340i RWD?

    thanks in advance!
    -mike
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 258,861
    mtruism said:

    hi guys - i locked in programs for a 340i RWD in April at 63% residual and .00135 MF for a 36/12 lease. Picking up the car in 2 weeks via PCD, wondering if the programs in July are better for 36/12 340i RWD?

    thanks in advance!
    -mike

    .00137 and 65% residual in July

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  • bforbrianbforbrian Member Posts: 74
    edited July 2016
    2016 BMW 340i xDrive

    10K/36mo and 12K/36mo residual and MF for July?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 258,861
    bforbrian said:

    2016 BMW 340i xDrive

    10K/36mo and 12K/36mo residual and MF for July?

    .00137 and 66% / 65%

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  • bforbrianbforbrian Member Posts: 74
    edited July 2016
    Michaell,

    Can you please evaluate the proposed lease rate and advise if it is a good deal for a 2016 BMW?
    BMW 340i xDrive
    MSRP $58,125
    Selling price $52,893.75 (9%)
    10K/36 mo
    NY 8.875% tax

    ~$1818 at signing for acq, dmv, and doc fees, $0 down, $582/mo.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 258,861
    bforbrian said:

    Michaell,

    Can you please evaluate the proposed lease rate and advise if it is a good deal for a 2016 BMW?
    BMW 340i xDrive
    MSRP $58,125
    Selling price $52,893.75 (9%)
    10K/36 mo
    NY 8.875% tax

    ~$1818 at signing for acq, dmv, and doc fees, $0 down, $582/mo.

    If the tax amount is added to the lease, I get $576 per month. Pretty close to your quote.

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  • omakad16omakad16 Member Posts: 13
    Michael, dealer told me that 2017 328i are starting production on 8.1.16 and will include CarPlay and Android Auto as an option. From leasing stand of point, am I better off getting a car now or waiting couple of months for 2017's? Thank you.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 258,861
    omakad16 said:

    Michael, dealer told me that 2017 328i are starting production on 8.1.16 and will include CarPlay and Android Auto as an option. From leasing stand of point, am I better off getting a car now or waiting couple of months for 2017's? Thank you.

    You'll probably get a better discount on a 2016; 2017 lease numbers aren't expected to be all that great until the '16's are cleared off the dealer lots.

    So, it will cost you significantly more for the latest tech - is it worth it to you?

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  • 2011oddy2011oddy Member Posts: 19
    Michaell said:

    omakad16 said:

    Michael, dealer told me that 2017 328i are starting production on 8.1.16 and will include CarPlay and Android Auto as an option. From leasing stand of point, am I better off getting a car now or waiting couple of months for 2017's? Thank you.

    You'll probably get a better discount on a 2016; 2017 lease numbers aren't expected to be all that great until the '16's are cleared off the dealer lots.

    So, it will cost you significantly more for the latest tech - is it worth it to you?
    First of all, there isn't much tech, mainly just a new engine (which in fact may be problematic given that it's new). Second, there are no 2017 328's, they are called 330's. But I agree, the resids on 2017 are going to be much worse., and with the same MF will cost more in a lease. If you are going to purchase, the MSRP has only increased by about $100, but it is a matter of how much off MSRP dealers will haggle with a 2017 (not much) vs a 2016 ( a lot).
  • queco1979queco1979 Member Posts: 1
    What is the money factor and residual percentages on a 2016 BMW 340ix lease with 10k, 15k and 20k miles per year for this month?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 260,695
    queco1979 said:

    What is the money factor and residual percentages on a 2016 BMW 340ix lease with 10k, 15k and 20k miles per year for this month?

    .00137 MF and 63% residual for 36/15. Add 3% for 36/10.
    Check with the dealer for 20K/yr leases

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  • bmwguy11bmwguy11 Member Posts: 3
    edited July 2016
    Looking to lease a 2016 328i sedan with MSRP of about $43500. 12k miles a year, driveoff of $1200. Money factor .001, residual of 61% and 36months.

    I qualify for the new grad discount. Payment calculator says $439 a month if the sale price is $38k and 9% sales tax in Los Angeles.

    Is this correct or too high? Is it possible to get it for under $400 a month?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 258,861
    bmwguy11 said:

    Looking to lease a 2016 328i sedan with MSRP of about $43500. 12k miles a year, driveoff of $1200. Money factor .001, residual of 61% and 36months.

    I qualify for the new grad discount. Payment calculator says $439 a month if the sale price is $38k and 9% sales tax in Los Angeles.

    Is this correct or too high? Is it possible to get it for under $400 a month?

    The base MF is .00137 this month; are you eligible for some sort of fleet discount?

    Would need to know the adjusted cap cost, since the $1200 at signing isn't enough to cover all the up front costs (bank fee, first payment, DMV costs, etc.)

    Shaving $39/mo off the lease would require about $1400 more off the selling price ...

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  • bmwguy11bmwguy11 Member Posts: 3
    What is the max discount off the MSRP that can be negotiated on a 2016 328i? I got mercedes to shave 17% off a c300. Anything close to that possible with a 328i?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 258,861
    bmwguy11 said:

    What is the max discount off the MSRP that can be negotiated on a 2016 328i? I got mercedes to shave 17% off a c300. Anything close to that possible with a 328i?

    We've not seen any discounts that large. Generally anything over 7% is pretty good for BMW.

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  • omakad16omakad16 Member Posts: 13
    2011oddy said:

    Michaell said:

    omakad16 said:

    Michael, dealer told me that 2017 328i are starting production on 8.1.16 and will include CarPlay and Android Auto as an option. From leasing stand of point, am I better off getting a car now or waiting couple of months for 2017's? Thank you.

    You'll probably get a better discount on a 2016; 2017 lease numbers aren't expected to be all that great until the '16's are cleared off the dealer lots.

    So, it will cost you significantly more for the latest tech - is it worth it to you?
    First of all, there isn't much tech, mainly just a new engine (which in fact may be problematic given that it's new). Second, there are no 2017 328's, they are called 330's. But I agree, the resids on 2017 are going to be much worse., and with the same MF will cost more in a lease. If you are going to purchase, the MSRP has only increased by about $100, but it is a matter of how much off MSRP dealers will haggle with a 2017 (not much) vs a 2016 ( a lot).
    Thank you both I really appreciate it. I will not wait.
  • jtbaerjtbaer Member Posts: 16
    Could you please tell me the July residuals and MF on a 2016 340i 36 month/10k lease? thank you so much in advance !!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 258,861
    jtbaer said:

    Could you please tell me the July residuals and MF on a 2016 340i 36 month/10k lease? thank you so much in advance !!

    .00137 and 66%

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  • eatstoomucheatstoomuch Member Posts: 2
    Just wanted to thank everyone for the information provided in this thread as its been super helpful as I've attempted to neg. a lease on my first car.

    Hoping to get thoughts on a lease offer in NYC:

    2016 328i xDrive

    MSRP - $50,315

    Base Price - $40,350
    Imperial Blue Metallic - $550
    Black Dakota w/Dark Oyster Highlight -$1,450
    Navigation System w/Touchpad - $1,950
    Premium Package - $2,450
    Cold Weather Package - $800
    Driver Assistance Package -$950
    Destination Fee - $995

    Accessories - $820? (I was given the total MSRP of $50,315 and I know the total before any accessories is $49,495 so I took the difference to calc the total cost of the additional items below). Couldn't find any pricing on these, does it look in the ballpark?

    Floor Mats / Wheel Locks / Black Kidney Grill / Head Liner / First Aid Kit / LED Floor Projector

    36Mo / 10K
    Sales Price - $45,800
    Residual - 66% ($33,208)
    MF - 0.00137
    MSD - Non (I was told this isn't available when leasing from a NY dealership)
    Zero Down

    Monthly Payment - $458 per month

    Payment due at signing - $3,305 (broken as follows)
    Taxes - $1,470
    Not sure what is was? - $82
    Registration & Plates - $225
    Acq Fee - $925
    Inspection Fee - $10
    Tire Fee - $10
    Doc Fee - $75
    Fuel - $50

    Thanks for any input / comments in advance
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 260,695

    Just wanted to thank everyone for the information provided in this thread as its been super helpful as I've attempted to neg. a lease on my first car.

    Hoping to get thoughts on a lease offer in NYC:

    2016 328i xDrive

    MSRP - $50,315

    Base Price - $40,350
    Imperial Blue Metallic - $550
    Black Dakota w/Dark Oyster Highlight -$1,450
    Navigation System w/Touchpad - $1,950
    Premium Package - $2,450
    Cold Weather Package - $800
    Driver Assistance Package -$950
    Destination Fee - $995

    Accessories - $820? (I was given the total MSRP of $50,315 and I know the total before any accessories is $49,495 so I took the difference to calc the total cost of the additional items below). Couldn't find any pricing on these, does it look in the ballpark?

    Floor Mats / Wheel Locks / Black Kidney Grill / Head Liner / First Aid Kit / LED Floor Projector

    36Mo / 10K
    Sales Price - $45,800
    Residual - 66% ($33,208)
    MF - 0.00137
    MSD - Non (I was told this isn't available when leasing from a NY dealership)
    Zero Down

    Monthly Payment - $458 per month

    Payment due at signing - $3,305 (broken as follows)
    Taxes - $1,470
    Not sure what is was? - $82
    Registration & Plates - $225
    Acq Fee - $925
    Inspection Fee - $10
    Tire Fee - $10
    Doc Fee - $75
    Fuel - $50

    Thanks for any input / comments in advance

    $458/mo. is correct for those numbers.
    There must be something else on the car. Accessories don't add to the MSRP, unless they are factory or port-installed.
    It's true, NYS dealers cannot do MSDs
    If it's me, I roll in the $1470 tax and $925 acquisition fee, which takes the payment to $528/mo, but reduces your upfront to $898.
    The $82 is likely tax on the acquisition fee (but, maybe something else)

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  • snorlaksnorlak Member Posts: 40
    Hello. Can you please provide the RV and MF for 340i xdrive 2017. This is for 36 months and 10 K milage.  Thanks! 
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 260,695
    snorlak said:

    Hello. Can you please provide the RV and MF for 340i xdrive 2017. This is for 36 months and 10 K milage.  Thanks! 

    .00137 MF and 60% residual

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  • snorlaksnorlak Member Posts: 40
    kyfdx said:
    Hello. Can you please provide the RV and MF for 340i xdrive 2017. This is for 36 months and 10 K milage.  Thanks! 
    .00137 MF and 60% residual

    Thank you! 

  • ckrelingckreling Member Posts: 23
    kyfdx said:

    Hello!

    How about the 330e? Residual, MF, and incentive, 36 months/12k?

    Thanks!

    .00137 MF and 65% residual. $3000 lease credit.
    Can you tell me more about the lease credit you mention? What are July nice rives on 2016's

    Thanks
  • gonpau1gonpau1 Member Posts: 8
    Hello, Can I get the expert's opinions?
    2016 320i

    36mths/10k miles
    Mthly Pmt $420+$30=$450.00
    Total due at signing $450 1st pmt $318.50 tag =total $773.16.
    Window sticker $36K

    Can I lower it? If so, by how much would you recommend?

    This is in South Florida
    Thanks
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