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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,624
    ckreling said:

    kyfdx said:

    Hello!

    How about the 330e? Residual, MF, and incentive, 36 months/12k?

    Thanks!

    .00137 MF and 65% residual. $3000 lease credit.
    Can you tell me more about the lease credit you mention? What are July nice rives on 2016's

    Thanks
    Lease credit is an incentive to lower the cap cost.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,624
    gonpau1 said:

    Hello, Can I get the expert's opinions?
    2016 320i

    36mths/10k miles
    Mthly Pmt $420+$30=$450.00
    Total due at signing $450 1st pmt $318.50 tag =total $773.16.
    Window sticker $36K

    Can I lower it? If so, by how much would you recommend?

    This is in South Florida
    Thanks

    Can't really tell you without knowing the adjusted cap cost...

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  • ckrelingckreling Member Posts: 23
    I understand the concept of a lease credit. Is there a 3K lease credit on the 3 series for July?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,086
    ckreling said:

    I understand the concept of a lease credit. Is there a 3K lease credit on the 3 series for July?

    Only on the 330e

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  • retinamdretinamd Member Posts: 16
    Hi, I'm looking for feedback on the following lease quote for 2016 328xi GT with Nav/Cold Weather/Driver Assist. Lease is for 36 mo 10k/yr in Maryland:

    MSRP: $50,664
    selling price: $46,495

    monthly payment: $535

    Upfront fees:
    - Maryland State Taxes $2,807.64
    - Registration, Title & Tags $331.00
    - Processing fee $299.00

    I asked for MF and RV but was told the following: "Calculated MF 0.00180. It can be lower number after our Finance Department will process the Credit Application."

    Is there enough information here to determine if this is a good deal? If not, what additional information do I need. Thanks for your thoughts.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,086
    retinamd said:

    Hi, I'm looking for feedback on the following lease quote for 2016 328xi GT with Nav/Cold Weather/Driver Assist. Lease is for 36 mo 10k/yr in Maryland:

    MSRP: $50,664
    selling price: $46,495

    monthly payment: $535

    Upfront fees:
    - Maryland State Taxes $2,807.64
    - Registration, Title & Tags $331.00
    - Processing fee $299.00

    I asked for MF and RV but was told the following: "Calculated MF 0.00180. It can be lower number after our Finance Department will process the Credit Application."

    Is there enough information here to determine if this is a good deal? If not, what additional information do I need. Thanks for your thoughts.

    .00137 MF and 66% residual.

    If the selling price is the adjusted CAP cost, then $472/mo. (using those rates).

    What is the total amount due at signing?
    What about 1st payment and $925 acquisition fee?

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  • retinamdretinamd Member Posts: 16
    kyfdx said:

    retinamd said:

    Hi, I'm looking for feedback on the following lease quote for 2016 328xi GT with Nav/Cold Weather/Driver Assist. Lease is for 36 mo 10k/yr in Maryland:

    MSRP: $50,664
    selling price: $46,495

    monthly payment: $535

    Upfront fees:
    - Maryland State Taxes $2,807.64
    - Registration, Title & Tags $331.00
    - Processing fee $299.00

    I asked for MF and RV but was told the following: "Calculated MF 0.00180. It can be lower number after our Finance Department will process the Credit Application."

    Is there enough information here to determine if this is a good deal? If not, what additional information do I need. Thanks for your thoughts.

    .00137 MF and 66% residual.

    If the selling price is the adjusted CAP cost, then $472/mo. (using those rates).

    What is the total amount due at signing?
    What about 1st payment and $925 acquisition fee?

    The total amount due at signing is $3972.75 (above upfront fees plus first month payment of $533.11). The acquisition fee is rolled into the monthly payments. My assumption is that the adjusted CAP cost is $47,720 (selling price + acquisition fee).

    I am assuming that I can obtain the 0.00137 MF. If that's the case, what should be my monthly payment? Is this a good deal?

    Thanks for your thoughts.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,086
    retinamd said:

    kyfdx said:

    retinamd said:

    Hi, I'm looking for feedback on the following lease quote for 2016 328xi GT with Nav/Cold Weather/Driver Assist. Lease is for 36 mo 10k/yr in Maryland:

    MSRP: $50,664
    selling price: $46,495

    monthly payment: $535

    Upfront fees:
    - Maryland State Taxes $2,807.64
    - Registration, Title & Tags $331.00
    - Processing fee $299.00

    I asked for MF and RV but was told the following: "Calculated MF 0.00180. It can be lower number after our Finance Department will process the Credit Application."

    Is there enough information here to determine if this is a good deal? If not, what additional information do I need. Thanks for your thoughts.

    .00137 MF and 66% residual.

    If the selling price is the adjusted CAP cost, then $472/mo. (using those rates).

    What is the total amount due at signing?
    What about 1st payment and $925 acquisition fee?

    The total amount due at signing is $3972.75 (above upfront fees plus first month payment of $533.11). The acquisition fee is rolled into the monthly payments. My assumption is that the adjusted CAP cost is $47,720 (selling price + acquisition fee).

    I am assuming that I can obtain the 0.00137 MF. If that's the case, what should be my monthly payment? Is this a good deal?

    Thanks for your thoughts.
    $508/mo. with .00137 MF
    $543/mo. with .00180 MF

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  • julio91julio91 Member Posts: 160
    edited July 2016
    Hey guys I'm interested on a 2016 BMW 340i m sport package $56,895 MSRP 

    im in Miami Florida and usually Florida dealer hate discounting or give a hard time.

    So im not familiar with BMW very well. I know if you do ED invoice is what 12-14% off MSRP but MF goes up ? Would you guy happen to have more info on this ? Because they only want to give 6% off MSRP which is not even invoice I believe that's $500 over invoice. Any info would be appreciated, to see what's will be the best option. Only to to do MSDs and be under $500 or very close. Thank you for your time. Hope to hear from you soon. 

    Oh oh just in case what is the number for 36/12 and 24/12 regular and Ed 

    @Michaell

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  • ndahou1ndahou1 Member Posts: 3
    Hi, I'm looking for feedback on the following lease quote for 2016 328i for 36 mo 15k/yr in Texas:

    MSRP: $49,725
    Selling price: $44,883
    Trade In. $4,000
    No additional money down

    Monthly payment: $577

    Upfront fees:
    - Texas State Taxes $2,555.19
    - Registration, Title & Tags $336.05
    - Processing fee $157.25

    I wasn't given the MF or Residual % but if I use .00137 and 63% I'm thinking it should be more like $492...$500. Am I missing something or are they really high on the MF rate being used? I'm new to leasing so I know I need to ask more questions, but they had to acquire the car and so we are still waiting for it to come in to the dealer.

    Anyway, would you agree the $500 monthly lease seems more accurate with the .00137 and 63% residual?

    Thank you.
  • eintheceinthec Member Posts: 1
    Are the residuals the same for the 320 / 328?   If not, what are the residual values for a 320i xdrive with 36month/12K per year?

    Thank you
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,624
    ndahou1 said:

    Hi, I'm looking for feedback on the following lease quote for 2016 328i for 36 mo 15k/yr in Texas:

    MSRP: $49,725
    Selling price: $44,883
    Trade In. $4,000
    No additional money down

    Monthly payment: $577

    Upfront fees:
    - Texas State Taxes $2,555.19
    - Registration, Title & Tags $336.05
    - Processing fee $157.25

    I wasn't given the MF or Residual % but if I use .00137 and 63% I'm thinking it should be more like $492...$500. Am I missing something or are they really high on the MF rate being used? I'm new to leasing so I know I need to ask more questions, but they had to acquire the car and so we are still waiting for it to come in to the dealer.

    Anyway, would you agree the $500 monthly lease seems more accurate with the .00137 and 63% residual?

    Thank you.

    Are the up front fees being handled by the trade equity?

    I don't see reference to the $925 acquisition fee - you want to ask the dealer about that.

    .00137 and 63% for 36/15.

    Using your MSRP and selling price, I get $481/mo.

    Ask the dealer what the adjusted cap cost is; if higher than the selling price, find out what's being added.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,624
    einthec said:

    Are the residuals the same for the 320 / 328?   If not, what are the residual values for a 320i xdrive with 36month/12K per year?

    Thank you

    320 and 328 have the same lease numbers this month .. 65% and .00137 for 36/12

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  • ndahou1ndahou1 Member Posts: 3
    Michaell said:

    ndahou1 said:

    Hi, I'm looking for feedback on the following lease quote for 2016 328i for 36 mo 15k/yr in Texas:

    MSRP: $49,725
    Selling price: $44,883
    Trade In. $4,000
    No additional money down

    Monthly payment: $577

    Upfront fees:
    - Texas State Taxes $2,555.19
    - Registration, Title & Tags $336.05
    - Processing fee $157.25

    I wasn't given the MF or Residual % but if I use .00137 and 63% I'm thinking it should be more like $492...$500. Am I missing something or are they really high on the MF rate being used? I'm new to leasing so I know I need to ask more questions, but they had to acquire the car and so we are still waiting for it to come in to the dealer.

    Anyway, would you agree the $500 monthly lease seems more accurate with the .00137 and 63% residual?

    Thank you.

    Are the up front fees being handled by the trade equity?

    I don't see reference to the $925 acquisition fee - you want to ask the dealer about that.

    .00137 and 63% for 36/15.

    Using your MSRP and selling price, I get $481/mo.

    Ask the dealer what the adjusted cap cost is; if higher than the selling price, find out what's being added.
    Thanks for the information, yes the fees will be handled by the trade equity and any remaining balance to reduce the payment (not expecting much).
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,624
    ndahou1 said:

    Michaell said:

    ndahou1 said:

    Hi, I'm looking for feedback on the following lease quote for 2016 328i for 36 mo 15k/yr in Texas:

    MSRP: $49,725
    Selling price: $44,883
    Trade In. $4,000
    No additional money down

    Monthly payment: $577

    Upfront fees:
    - Texas State Taxes $2,555.19
    - Registration, Title & Tags $336.05
    - Processing fee $157.25

    I wasn't given the MF or Residual % but if I use .00137 and 63% I'm thinking it should be more like $492...$500. Am I missing something or are they really high on the MF rate being used? I'm new to leasing so I know I need to ask more questions, but they had to acquire the car and so we are still waiting for it to come in to the dealer.

    Anyway, would you agree the $500 monthly lease seems more accurate with the .00137 and 63% residual?

    Thank you.

    Are the up front fees being handled by the trade equity?

    I don't see reference to the $925 acquisition fee - you want to ask the dealer about that.

    .00137 and 63% for 36/15.

    Using your MSRP and selling price, I get $481/mo.

    Ask the dealer what the adjusted cap cost is; if higher than the selling price, find out what's being added.
    Thanks for the information, yes the fees will be handled by the trade equity and any remaining balance to reduce the payment (not expecting much).
    I would absolutely get a full break down of how the trade equity is being applied; if there is anything left over after the taxes and fees, have the dealer cut you a check for that amount. We don't recommend making a down payment on a lease - that money would be lost if the car is stolen or totaled.

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  • antons911antons911 Member Posts: 66
    what is mf and rv on 3gt28? 36/10
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,086
    antons911 said:

    what is mf and rv on 3gt28? 36/10

    .00137 MF and 66% residual

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  • bananaerobananaero Member Posts: 123
    Is there information for 328d xdrive Wagon for this month? 24, 30, 36 months? 10k miles a year? Thanks! (PA if that matters).
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,624
    bananaero said:

    Is there information for 328d xdrive Wagon for this month? 24, 30, 36 months? 10k miles a year? Thanks! (PA if that matters).

    .00137 and 72% / 69% / 66%

    You have been asking about a lot of different vehicles. Any reason why you're so indecisive? :sunglasses:

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  • kap8kap8 Member Posts: 22
    Don't have the particulars yet (cap cost, msrp, residual, bank factor they're using, etc) but my local dealer offered me this as my 2013 328xi lease ends in a month:

    2016 320i
    $409/mth (taxes already rolled in)
    36/12
    $1706 "up front" (first month's, bank fee, NYSI, transfer plate fee, tax on rebate).

    Seems like decent deal but wanted your take before i go in and get details. Many thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,624
    kap8 said:

    Don't have the particulars yet (cap cost, msrp, residual, bank factor they're using, etc) but my local dealer offered me this as my 2013 328xi lease ends in a month:

    2016 320i
    $409/mth (taxes already rolled in)
    36/12
    $1706 "up front" (first month's, bank fee, NYSI, transfer plate fee, tax on rebate).

    Seems like decent deal but wanted your take before i go in and get details. Many thanks!

    Sort of a chicken and egg situation .. can't really tell you if it's a good or bad deal without the details.

    But, $409/mo does seem high for a 320

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  • meggipantsmeggipants Member Posts: 25
    Hi, Can you give me the lease values for a 2016 BMW 330e for Maryland 24 months/15k and 36 months/15k ? Any lease cash ?

    Thanks in advance
  • meggipantsmeggipants Member Posts: 25
    To add to my previous question, what would be the lease values for a 2016 BMW 320i RWD and AWD 24/15k and 36/15k in Maryland ?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,086

    Hi, Can you give me the lease values for a 2016 BMW 330e for Maryland 24 months/15k and 36 months/15k ? Any lease cash ?

    Thanks in advance

    To add to my previous question, what would be the lease values for a 2016 BMW 320i RWD and AWD 24/15k and 36/15k in Maryland ?

    .00137 MF and 69%/63% residual for either model.

    The 330e has a $3000 lease credit.

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  • bananaerobananaero Member Posts: 123
    Michaell said:

    bananaero said:

    Is there information for 328d xdrive Wagon for this month? 24, 30, 36 months? 10k miles a year? Thanks! (PA if that matters).

    .00137 and 72% / 69% / 66%

    You have been asking about a lot of different vehicles. Any reason why you're so indecisive? :sunglasses:
    Just trying to find the best deal! I let the car pick me, not the other way around! Thanks for your amazing help! :)
  • ry8ncry8nc Member Posts: 33
    edited July 2016
    There isn't a thread for the 2017 3-series yet, but are the Residuals and MF available for the 2017 340xi for 24/30/36 months and 10,000 miles yet? I live in Virginia.

    I know residuals are a lot better on the 2016s but the 2017 has Apple Carplay! :)

    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,624
    ry8nc said:

    There isn't a thread for the 2017 3-series yet, but are the Residuals and MF available for the 2017 340xi for 24/30/36 months and 10,000 miles yet? I live in Virginia.

    I know residuals are a lot better on the 2016s but the 2017 has Apple Carplay! :)

    Thanks!

    Just created a 2017 discussion:

    http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/42196/bmw/3-series/2017-bmw-3-series-lease-questions#latest

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  • julio91julio91 Member Posts: 160
    Hey guys I'm interested on a 2016 BMW 340i m sport package $56,895 MSRP 

    im in Miami Florida and usually Florida dealer hate discounting or give a hard time.

    So im not familiar with BMW very well. I know if you do ED invoice is what 12-14% off MSRP but MF goes up ? Would you guy happen to have more info on this ? Because they only want to give 6% off MSRP which is not even invoice I believe that's $500 over invoice. Any info would be appreciated, to see what's will be the best option. Only want to do MSDs and be under $500 or very close. Thank you for your time. Hope to hear from you soon.

    @Michaell

    @kyfdx
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,086
    julio91 said:

    Hey guys I'm interested on a 2016 BMW 340i m sport package $56,895 MSRP 

    im in Miami Florida and usually Florida dealer hate discounting or give a hard time.

    So im not familiar with BMW very well. I know if you do ED invoice is what 12-14% off MSRP but MF goes up ? Would you guy happen to have more info on this ? Because they only want to give 6% off MSRP which is not even invoice I believe that's $500 over invoice. Any info would be appreciated, to see what's will be the best option. Only want to do MSDs and be under $500 or very close. Thank you for your time. Hope to hear from you soon.

    @Michaell

    @kyfdx

    The price for Euro Delivery is negotiable with the dealer, just like any other new car. They have 5% more to work with, but that doesn't mean they will be any easier to negotiate with. At 5% more off, that won't even pay for your trip to pick it up.

    $500/mo. for a 340i doesn't seem very likely.

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  • snorlaksnorlak Member Posts: 40
    Hi, what is the MF and RV for 340i 2017 in August for 36 months and 10K?

    Thank you!
  • yanyoyanyo Member Posts: 4
    Any info on August lease numbers? specifically 36mo/12k. Looking into a 2016 328i in TX.

    Thanks in advance!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,624
    snorlak said:

    Hi, what is the MF and RV for 340i 2017 in August for 36 months and 10K?

    Thank you!

    The 2017 discussion is here:

    http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/42196/bmw/3-series/2017-bmw-3-series-lease-questions#latest

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,624
    yanyo said:

    Any info on August lease numbers? specifically 36mo/12k. Looking into a 2016 328i in TX.

    Thanks in advance!

    .00137 and 65%

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  • FadyDizzleFadyDizzle Member Posts: 115
    Hi do you have RV and MF for a 2016 328d xdrive, 36 mo / 15k/yr?
  • houtex1276houtex1276 Member Posts: 3
    Gulf Coast Texas here and I'm considering a 36/12 lease on a 2016 340i. What base MF and residual should I be using to calculate payments?

    Thanks in advance.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,624

    Hi do you have RV and MF for a 2016 328d xdrive, 36 mo / 15k/yr?

    .00137 and 63%

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,624

    Gulf Coast Texas here and I'm considering a 36/12 lease on a 2016 340i. What base MF and residual should I be using to calculate payments?

    Thanks in advance.

    .00137 and 65%

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  • absolspabsolsp Member Posts: 9
    Bay Area (San Francisco South Bay)

    I am looking for a BMW 328i 4 door sedan lease 3 Year 10K with Navigation Package

    Got the following info from the dealer (sorry for the formatting, cut an paste from spreadsheet)


    163O 328i $38,350.00
    B39 Mineral Gray Metallic $550.00
    LCOM Oyster Dakota Leather $1,450.00
    ZDA Driver Assistance Package $950.00
    ZPP Premium Package $2,450.00
    494 Heated Front Seats $500.00
    609 Navigation System $1,950.00
    688 Harmon Kardon Surround sound system $875.00
    z06 Black Kidney Grilles $230.00
    Z62 Wheel Locks $150.00
    Zj5 BMW First Ait Kit $40.00

    Accessories Total $420.00
    Net Total $47,495.00
    Total Suggested Price $48,490.00

    Lease Info

    Lease Info 10K
    MSRP $48,490.00
    Residual 66%
    Lease-end value 32,003.40
    Initial Cap Cost $45,691.00
    Customer Cash Down $4,980.76
    Rebate $1,000
    Total Sales Tax $1,598.58
    Acq Fee in Cap $925
    Adjusted Cap Cost $45,616
    Rate/Money Factor 0.00128
    Term 36
    Mo Use Tax (8.75%) 41.78
    Security Deposit $3,850
    Base Monthly Rental $477.48
    Total Monthly Payment $519.26
    Total Initial Fees $109
    Total Upgront Fees $408
    Driveoff/Amount Due at Start $4,980.76
    Total Working Cash $4,980.76
    Dmv $368


    MF and monthly payments seemed very high. Would appreciate any pointers in terms what can be negotiated and any recommendations for dealers in Bay Area that might be more competitive and feedback on the general lease payments for this car.

    Must have options: Navigation
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,624
    absolsp said:

    Bay Area (San Francisco South Bay)

    I am looking for a BMW 328i 4 door sedan lease 3 Year 10K with Navigation Package

    Got the following info from the dealer (sorry for the formatting, cut an paste from spreadsheet)


    163O 328i $38,350.00
    B39 Mineral Gray Metallic $550.00
    LCOM Oyster Dakota Leather $1,450.00
    ZDA Driver Assistance Package $950.00
    ZPP Premium Package $2,450.00
    494 Heated Front Seats $500.00
    609 Navigation System $1,950.00
    688 Harmon Kardon Surround sound system $875.00
    z06 Black Kidney Grilles $230.00
    Z62 Wheel Locks $150.00
    Zj5 BMW First Ait Kit $40.00

    Accessories Total $420.00
    Net Total $47,495.00
    Total Suggested Price $48,490.00

    Lease Info

    Lease Info 10K
    MSRP $48,490.00
    Residual 66%
    Lease-end value 32,003.40
    Initial Cap Cost $45,691.00
    Customer Cash Down $4,980.76
    Rebate $1,000
    Total Sales Tax $1,598.58
    Acq Fee in Cap $925
    Adjusted Cap Cost $45,616
    Rate/Money Factor 0.00128
    Term 36
    Mo Use Tax (8.75%) 41.78
    Security Deposit $3,850
    Base Monthly Rental $477.48
    Total Monthly Payment $519.26
    Total Initial Fees $109
    Total Upgront Fees $408
    Driveoff/Amount Due at Start $4,980.76
    Total Working Cash $4,980.76
    Dmv $368


    MF and monthly payments seemed very high. Would appreciate any pointers in terms what can be negotiated and any recommendations for dealers in Bay Area that might be more competitive and feedback on the general lease payments for this car.

    Must have options: Navigation

    I confirm the 36/10 residual of 66%, but the base MF is .00137 this month.

    Ah, I see. You are giving them max MSDs. So, the MF is marked up, then discounted.

    You want a post MSD MF of .00088. Politely tell them you won't sign a deal with an inflated MF.

    Next, I don't see an adjusted cap cost .. this will be the initial cap cost with any taxes and fees you are not paying up front.

    With that information, we can better determine what the payment ought to be.

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  • lexiconlexicon Member Posts: 7
    edited July 2016
    Michaell said:
    Bay Area (San Francisco South Bay) I am looking for a BMW 328i 4 door sedan lease 3 Year 10K with Navigation Package Got the following info from the dealer (sorry for the formatting, cut an paste from spreadsheet) 163O 328i $38,350.00 B39 Mineral Gray Metallic $550.00 LCOM Oyster Dakota Leather $1,450.00 ZDA Driver Assistance Package $950.00 ZPP Premium Package $2,450.00 494 Heated Front Seats $500.00 609 Navigation System $1,950.00 688 Harmon Kardon Surround sound system $875.00 z06 Black Kidney Grilles $230.00 Z62 Wheel Locks $150.00 Zj5 BMW First Ait Kit $40.00 Accessories Total $420.00 Net Total $47,495.00 Total Suggested Price $48,490.00 Lease Info Lease Info 10K MSRP $48,490.00 Residual 66% Lease-end value 32,003.40 Initial Cap Cost $45,691.00 Customer Cash Down $4,980.76 Rebate $1,000 Total Sales Tax $1,598.58 Acq Fee in Cap $925 Adjusted Cap Cost $45,616 Rate/Money Factor 0.00128 Term 36 Mo Use Tax (8.75%) 41.78 Security Deposit $3,850 Base Monthly Rental $477.48 Total Monthly Payment $519.26 Total Initial Fees $109 Total Upgront Fees $408 Driveoff/Amount Due at Start $4,980.76 Total Working Cash $4,980.76 Dmv $368 MF and monthly payments seemed very high. Would appreciate any pointers in terms what can be negotiated and any recommendations for dealers in Bay Area that might be more competitive and feedback on the general lease payments for this car. Must have options: Navigation
    I confirm the 36/10 residual of 66%, but the base MF is .00137 this month. Ah, I see. You are giving them max MSDs. So, the MF is marked up, then discounted. You want a post MSD MF of .00088. Politely tell them you won't sign a deal with an inflated MF. Next, I don't see an adjusted cap cost .. this will be the initial cap cost with any taxes and fees you are not paying up front. With that information, we can better determine what the payment ought to be.
    I don't know something seems off.

    i got offered a deal on 535i 2016 MSRP $60k

    $529 tax in with 4800 down 3800 of that is MSD's


  • absolspabsolsp Member Posts: 9


    I confirm the 36/10 residual of 66%, but the base MF is .00137 this month.

    Ah, I see. You are giving them max MSDs. So, the MF is marked up, then discounted.

    You want a post MSD MF of .00088. Politely tell them you won't sign a deal with an inflated MF.

    Next, I don't see an adjusted cap cost .. this will be the initial cap cost with any taxes and fees you are not paying up front.

    With that information, we can better determine what the payment ought to be.

    Initial Cap Cost $45,691.00
    Adjusted Cap Cost $45,616

    These are the only two things I got from their quote sheet.

  • absolspabsolsp Member Posts: 9
    lexicon said:


    Michaell said:

    Bay Area (San Francisco South Bay)

    I am looking for a BMW 328i 4 door sedan lease 3 Year 10K with Navigation Package

    Got the following info from the dealer (sorry for the formatting, cut an paste from spreadsheet)


    163O 328i $38,350.00
    B39 Mineral Gray Metallic $550.00
    LCOM Oyster Dakota Leather $1,450.00
    ZDA Driver Assistance Package $950.00
    ZPP Premium Package $2,450.00
    494 Heated Front Seats $500.00
    609 Navigation System $1,950.00
    688 Harmon Kardon Surround sound system $875.00
    z06 Black Kidney Grilles $230.00
    Z62 Wheel Locks $150.00
    Zj5 BMW First Ait Kit $40.00

    Accessories Total $420.00
    Net Total $47,495.00
    Total Suggested Price $48,490.00

    Lease Info

    Lease Info 10K
    MSRP $48,490.00
    Residual 66%
    Lease-end value 32,003.40
    Initial Cap Cost $45,691.00
    Customer Cash Down $4,980.76
    Rebate $1,000
    Total Sales Tax $1,598.58
    Acq Fee in Cap $925
    Adjusted Cap Cost $45,616
    Rate/Money Factor 0.00128
    Term 36
    Mo Use Tax (8.75%) 41.78
    Security Deposit $3,850
    Base Monthly Rental $477.48
    Total Monthly Payment $519.26
    Total Initial Fees $109
    Total Upgront Fees $408
    Driveoff/Amount Due at Start $4,980.76
    Total Working Cash $4,980.76
    Dmv $368


    MF and monthly payments seemed very high. Would appreciate any pointers in terms what can be negotiated and any recommendations for dealers in Bay Area that might be more competitive and feedback on the general lease payments for this car.

    Must have options: Navigation
    I confirm the 36/10 residual of 66%, but the base MF is .00137 this month.

    Ah, I see. You are giving them max MSDs. So, the MF is marked up, then discounted.

    You want a post MSD MF of .00088. Politely tell them you won't sign a deal with an inflated MF.

    Next, I don't see an adjusted cap cost .. this will be the initial cap cost with any taxes and fees you are not paying up front.

    With that information, we can better determine what the payment ought to be.

    I don't know something seems off.

    i got offered a deal on 535i 2016 MSRP $60k

    $529 tax in with 4800 down 3800 of that is MSD's





    Would you be able to provide the details of your deal? Seems like an awesome deal. Where did you get this deal?
  • lexiconlexicon Member Posts: 7
    Michaell said:
    Bay Area (San Francisco South Bay) I am looking for a BMW 328i 4 door sedan lease 3 Year 10K with Navigation Package Got the following info from the dealer (sorry for the formatting, cut an paste from spreadsheet) 163O 328i $38,350.00 B39 Mineral Gray Metallic $550.00 LCOM Oyster Dakota Leather $1,450.00 ZDA Driver Assistance Package $950.00 ZPP Premium Package $2,450.00 494 Heated Front Seats $500.00 609 Navigation System $1,950.00 688 Harmon Kardon Surround sound system $875.00 z06 Black Kidney Grilles $230.00 Z62 Wheel Locks $150.00 Zj5 BMW First Ait Kit $40.00 Accessories Total $420.00 Net Total $47,495.00 Total Suggested Price $48,490.00 Lease Info Lease Info 10K MSRP $48,490.00 Residual 66% Lease-end value 32,003.40 Initial Cap Cost $45,691.00 Customer Cash Down $4,980.76 Rebate $1,000 Total Sales Tax $1,598.58 Acq Fee in Cap $925 Adjusted Cap Cost $45,616 Rate/Money Factor 0.00128 Term 36 Mo Use Tax (8.75%) 41.78 Security Deposit $3,850 Base Monthly Rental $477.48 Total Monthly Payment $519.26 Total Initial Fees $109 Total Upgront Fees $408 Driveoff/Amount Due at Start $4,980.76 Total Working Cash $4,980.76 Dmv $368 MF and monthly payments seemed very high. Would appreciate any pointers in terms what can be negotiated and any recommendations for dealers in Bay Area that might be more competitive and feedback on the general lease payments for this car. Must have options: Navigation
    I confirm the 36/10 residual of 66%, but the base MF is .00137 this month. Ah, I see. You are giving them max MSDs. So, the MF is marked up, then discounted. You want a post MSD MF of .00088. Politely tell them you won't sign a deal with an inflated MF. Next, I don't see an adjusted cap cost .. this will be the initial cap cost with any taxes and fees you are not paying up front. With that information, we can better determine what the payment ought to be.
    I don't know something seems off.

    i got offered a deal on 535i 2016

    $529 tax in with 4800 down 3800 of that is MSDS

    in Florida

    residuals are different but they are screwing with numbers...
  • bwatford141bwatford141 Member Posts: 7
    I get a .00020 MF reduction and $1500 in "lease cash" through my company's fleet program. Can I make MSDs bringing the MF down to .00088 and take my company's MF reduction for a final MF of .00060?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,624

    I get a .00020 MF reduction and $1500 in "lease cash" through my company's fleet program. Can I make MSDs bringing the MF down to .00088 and take my company's MF reduction for a final MF of .00060?

    I believe you can, yes.

    But, I think the fleet discount is applied first (.00117), then MSDs applied, to get to a final MF of .00068.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,624
    lexicon said:


    Michaell said:

    absolsp said:

    Bay Area (San Francisco South Bay)

    I am looking for a BMW 328i 4 door sedan lease 3 Year 10K with Navigation Package

    Got the following info from the dealer (sorry for the formatting, cut an paste from spreadsheet)


    163O 328i $38,350.00
    B39 Mineral Gray Metallic $550.00
    LCOM Oyster Dakota Leather $1,450.00
    ZDA Driver Assistance Package $950.00
    ZPP Premium Package $2,450.00
    494 Heated Front Seats $500.00
    609 Navigation System $1,950.00
    688 Harmon Kardon Surround sound system $875.00
    z06 Black Kidney Grilles $230.00
    Z62 Wheel Locks $150.00
    Zj5 BMW First Ait Kit $40.00

    Accessories Total $420.00
    Net Total $47,495.00
    Total Suggested Price $48,490.00

    Lease Info

    Lease Info 10K
    MSRP $48,490.00
    Residual 66%
    Lease-end value 32,003.40
    Initial Cap Cost $45,691.00
    Customer Cash Down $4,980.76
    Rebate $1,000
    Total Sales Tax $1,598.58
    Acq Fee in Cap $925
    Adjusted Cap Cost $45,616
    Rate/Money Factor 0.00128
    Term 36
    Mo Use Tax (8.75%) 41.78
    Security Deposit $3,850
    Base Monthly Rental $477.48
    Total Monthly Payment $519.26
    Total Initial Fees $109
    Total Upgront Fees $408
    Driveoff/Amount Due at Start $4,980.76
    Total Working Cash $4,980.76
    Dmv $368


    MF and monthly payments seemed very high. Would appreciate any pointers in terms what can be negotiated and any recommendations for dealers in Bay Area that might be more competitive and feedback on the general lease payments for this car.

    Must have options: Navigation

    I confirm the 36/10 residual of 66%, but the base MF is .00137 this month.

    Ah, I see. You are giving them max MSDs. So, the MF is marked up, then discounted.

    You want a post MSD MF of .00088. Politely tell them you won't sign a deal with an inflated MF.

    Next, I don't see an adjusted cap cost .. this will be the initial cap cost with any taxes and fees you are not paying up front.

    With that information, we can better determine what the payment ought to be.

    I don't know something seems off.

    i got offered a deal on 535i 2016

    $529 tax in with 4800 down 3800 of that is MSDS

    in Florida

    residuals are different but they are screwing with numbers...

    This is the 3-series forum ... 5-series lease questions should be posted here:

    http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/36227/bmw/5-series/2016-bmw-5-series-lease-questions#latest

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  • koachkoonkoachkoon Member Posts: 38
    Are the August incentives (if any) up yet?

    Can I have the Residual and MF on a 2016 328xi, 15K/24 and 15K/36. Thank you.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,624
    koachkoon said:

    Are the August incentives (if any) up yet?

    Can I have the Residual and MF on a 2016 328xi, 15K/24 and 15K/36. Thank you.

    Current BMW program expires on 8/31.

    .00137 and 69% or 63%

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  • roads2madnessroads2madness Member Posts: 3
    Good afternoon!

    What are the August residuals and MF on 2016 340xi with 10k/36 and 12k/36? Also, are there any incentives out there for the month?

    Thanks in advance!

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,624

    Good afternoon!

    What are the August residuals and MF on 2016 340xi with 10k/36 and 12k/36? Also, are there any incentives out there for the month?

    Thanks in advance!

    Current BMW numbers are valid through 8/31

    36/12 - .00137 and 65%. Add 1% for 10K

    no incentives.

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