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2016 BMW 4-Series Lease Questions

MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 239,555
edited August 2015 in BMW
Ask your 2016 4-series lease questions here!

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  • xegaxega Member Posts: 2
    What is the Money Factor and Residual for 12k and 15k miles a year for a 435 grand coupe?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 239,555
    xega said:

    What is the Money Factor and Residual for 12k and 15k miles a year for a 435 grand coupe?

    .00130 and 55% for 36/15. Add 2% for 12K

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  • dogtorstacidogtorstaci Member Posts: 6
    what are the MF and residual for the 2016 428 convert. and 435 convert? looking for 12K and 15K. I live in AZ. Thanks!!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 234,725

    what are the MF and residual for the 2016 428 convert. and 435 convert? looking for 12K and 15K. I live in AZ. Thanks!!

    .00130 MF and 57%/55% residual for either model, for 36 months.

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  • franceanfrancean Member Posts: 3
    Can someone provide MF and residual for 2016 428i X-Drive Gran Coupe for 12k and 15k miles? Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 234,725
    edited August 2015
    francean said:

    Can someone provide MF and residual for 2016 428i X-Drive Gran Coupe for 12k and 15k miles? Thanks!

    .00130 MF and 57%/55% residual

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  • franceanfrancean Member Posts: 3
    edited August 2015
    What do you think of this deal for a 36 month lease with 12k a year?

    2016 BMW 428 xdrive GC with premium, nav, cold weather, and drivers assistance packages, MSRP of 50,695.

    $2200 cash due at signing, the dealer offered me monthly payment of $690.

    MF: .00130, residual: 57%

    Is this an ok deal?
    Thanks!


  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 239,555
    francean said:

    What do you think of this deal for a 36 month lease with 12k a year?

    2016 BMW 428 xdrive GC with premium, nav, cold weather, and drivers assistance packages, MSRP of 50,695.

    $2200 cash due at signing, the dealer offered me monthly payment of $690.

    MF: .00130, residual: 57%

    Is this an ok deal?
    Thanks!

    What is the net cap cost? Breakdown of the $2200?

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  • bpturtlebpturtle Member Posts: 19
    Hi,

    I'm interested in a 2016 428i Convertible and see you mentioned to a previous poster that MF is 0.00130 and RV is 57% for a 12,000mi/yr 36mo lease. What is it for 10,000/yr? Acquisition Fee should be $725 right?

    Also, what percentage discount should I be shooting for off of MSRP? Are there any incentives or rebates? I am a previous leasee so not sure if there is a loyalty incentive in addition to any others.

    Thanks! This forum was so very helpful when I did my first lease a few years ago. Much appreciated.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 239,555
    bpturtle said:

    Hi,

    I'm interested in a 2016 428i Convertible and see you mentioned to a previous poster that MF is 0.00130 and RV is 57% for a 12,000mi/yr 36mo lease. What is it for 10,000/yr? Acquisition Fee should be $725 right?

    Also, what percentage discount should I be shooting for off of MSRP? Are there any incentives or rebates? I am a previous leasee so not sure if there is a loyalty incentive in addition to any others.

    Thanks! This forum was so very helpful when I did my first lease a few years ago. Much appreciated.

    .00130 and 58% for 36/10. Acquisition fee is now $925.

    Not sure you can get the same level of discounts on a 2016 that you can on a 2015.

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  • bpturtlebpturtle Member Posts: 19
    Is 5-7% off MSRP for a 2016 still a reasonable goal?

    Is there somewhere you can view invoice prices on vehicles and options?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 239,555
    bpturtle said:

    Is 5-7% off MSRP for a 2016 still a reasonable goal?

    Is there somewhere you can view invoice prices on vehicles and options?

    Use the pricing tools here at Edmunds - "make / model / year" pull downs at the top of the page.

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  • bpturtlebpturtle Member Posts: 19
    I see TMV but no invoice pricing. Do you think that 5-7% off MSRP is realistic to shoot for on a 2016?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 239,555
    bpturtle said:

    I see TMV but no invoice pricing. Do you think that 5-7% off MSRP is realistic to shoot for on a 2016?

    One of my favorite sayings is "If you don't ask, you don't get"

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  • bpturtlebpturtle Member Posts: 19
    Michaell said:

    bpturtle said:

    Hi,

    I'm interested in a 2016 428i Convertible and see you mentioned to a previous poster that MF is 0.00130 and RV is 57% for a 12,000mi/yr 36mo lease. What is it for 10,000/yr? Acquisition Fee should be $725 right?

    Also, what percentage discount should I be shooting for off of MSRP? Are there any incentives or rebates? I am a previous leasee so not sure if there is a loyalty incentive in addition to any others.

    Thanks! This forum was so very helpful when I did my first lease a few years ago. Much appreciated.

    .00130 and 58% for 36/10. Acquisition fee is now $925.

    Not sure you can get the same level of discounts on a 2016 that you can on a 2015.
    Are the Sept numbers for a 328i convertible same as they were in August?

    Also, using the tools at the top of the page I get a TMV but no invoice price. Are invoice prices in a different area?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 239,555
    bpturtle said:

    Michaell said:

    bpturtle said:

    Hi,

    I'm interested in a 2016 428i Convertible and see you mentioned to a previous poster that MF is 0.00130 and RV is 57% for a 12,000mi/yr 36mo lease. What is it for 10,000/yr? Acquisition Fee should be $725 right?

    Also, what percentage discount should I be shooting for off of MSRP? Are there any incentives or rebates? I am a previous leasee so not sure if there is a loyalty incentive in addition to any others.

    Thanks! This forum was so very helpful when I did my first lease a few years ago. Much appreciated.

    .00130 and 58% for 36/10. Acquisition fee is now $925.

    Not sure you can get the same level of discounts on a 2016 that you can on a 2015.
    Are the Sept numbers for a 328i convertible same as they were in August?

    Also, using the tools at the top of the page I get a TMV but no invoice price. Are invoice prices in a different area?
    Hmm, every time I've priced out a car, it's shown me the invoice price. Did you click on the "Build and Price" link?

    Here's what I get:

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  • bpturtlebpturtle Member Posts: 19
    Michaell said:
    Hi, I'm interested in a 2016 428i Convertible and see you mentioned to a previous poster that MF is 0.00130 and RV is 57% for a 12,000mi/yr 36mo lease. What is it for 10,000/yr? Acquisition Fee should be $725 right? Also, what percentage discount should I be shooting for off of MSRP? Are there any incentives or rebates? I am a previous leasee so not sure if there is a loyalty incentive in addition to any others. Thanks! This forum was so very helpful when I did my first lease a few years ago. Much appreciated.
    .00130 and 58% for 36/10. Acquisition fee is now $925. Not sure you can get the same level of discounts on a 2016 that you can on a 2015.
    Are the Sept numbers for a 328i convertible same as they were in August? Also, using the tools at the top of the page I get a TMV but no invoice price. Are invoice prices in a different area?
    Hmm, every time I've priced out a car, it's shown me the invoice price. Did you click on the "Build and Price" link? Here's what I get:
    Thanks, I will try again. 

    Also what are the current 428i convertible MF and RV for 10k and 12k miles/yr?

    Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 234,725
    bpturtle said:


    Michaell said:

    bpturtle said:

    Michaell said:

    bpturtle said:

    Hi,

    I'm interested in a 2016 428i Convertible and see you mentioned to a previous poster that MF is 0.00130 and RV is 57% for a 12,000mi/yr 36mo lease. What is it for 10,000/yr? Acquisition Fee should be $725 right?

    Also, what percentage discount should I be shooting for off of MSRP? Are there any incentives or rebates? I am a previous leasee so not sure if there is a loyalty incentive in addition to any others.

    Thanks! This forum was so very helpful when I did my first lease a few years ago. Much appreciated.

    .00130 and 58% for 36/10. Acquisition fee is now $925.

    Not sure you can get the same level of discounts on a 2016 that you can on a 2015.
    Are the Sept numbers for a 328i convertible same as they were in August?

    Also, using the tools at the top of the page I get a TMV but no invoice price. Are invoice prices in a different area?
    Hmm, every time I've priced out a car, it's shown me the invoice price. Did you click on the "Build and Price" link?

    Here's what I get:


    Thanks, I will try again. 

    Also what are the current 428i convertible MF and RV for 10k and 12k miles/yr?

    Thanks!

    .00130 MF and 58%/57% residual.

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  • leasenewbieflleasenewbiefl Member Posts: 2
    For 2016 435i Gran Coupe: Does anyone know current MF and RV for 15k and 20k miles ?
    Thanks
  • leasenewbieflleasenewbiefl Member Posts: 2
    Also on 2016 435i Gran Coupe lease -- what is reasonable discount off MSRP to expect after negotiating ?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 239,555

    For 2016 435i Gran Coupe: Does anyone know current MF and RV for 15k and 20k miles ?
    Thanks

    36/15 numbers - .00130 and 55%. Extra miles are purchased up front for .10-.25 per mile.

    Also on 2016 435i Gran Coupe lease -- what is reasonable discount off MSRP to expect after negotiating ?

    For BMW, 5-7% off sticker price. Not sure you'll be able to get all that on a new 2016, but it can't hurt to try.

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  • 20164er20164er Member Posts: 3
    What is the September residuals on the 428xi?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 239,555
    20164er said:

    What is the September residuals on the 428xi?

    .00130 and 55% for 36/15

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  • 20164er20164er Member Posts: 3
    Thanks, unfortunately unchanged from August :(
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 239,555
    20164er said:

    Thanks, unfortunately unchanged from August :(

    Not surprising for the 2016's ... BMW is focusing on getting the 2015's sold first.

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  • 20164er20164er Member Posts: 3
    2016's seem to be a secret by me...the showrooms are still full of 15's...Have an ordered '16 on the ground now!
  • tomvu1606tomvu1606 Member Posts: 20
    Hello everyone,

    So I'm interested in ordering a custom-built 428i. MSRP is $46145. I was planning to ask for $42900. I also have $1000 credit from the USA Driving Team but I will not mention before I sign the lease. My term will be 3 years 36k miles. I live in Michigan where sales tax is 6%. Can anyone help me to estimate how much monthly payment would be? I will do 7 MSD but 0 down of course. My dealer guy keeps asking me to come in to test drive the 2015 and sit down in order to close a deal on whatever we are discussing. The 2015 is way out my budget but I'm very tempted.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 234,725
    tomvu1606 said:

    Hello everyone,

    So I'm interested in ordering a custom-built 428i. MSRP is $46145. I was planning to ask for $42900. I also have $1000 credit from the USA Driving Team but I will not mention before I sign the lease. My term will be 3 years 36k miles. I live in Michigan where sales tax is 6%. Can anyone help me to estimate how much monthly payment would be? I will do 7 MSD but 0 down of course. My dealer guy keeps asking me to come in to test drive the 2015 and sit down in order to close a deal on whatever we are discussing. The 2015 is way out my budget but I'm very tempted.

    2016: .00130 MF and 57% residual.

    Assuming your CAP cost is $42,900, the payment is $551/mo.+tax = $584/mo.

    The 2015 numbers are .00130 MF and 60% residual with $500 buildout cash.

    You don't say how much the 2015 model is, but with the better lease numbers and hopefully a bigger discount, it might not be any more than the cheaper 2016.

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  • tomvu1606tomvu1606 Member Posts: 20
    And does it include my 7 MSD?

    The 2015 that I have here doesn't have the M-sport package so I'm reluctant to take it. The MSRP is $48110. Last year, I contacted the same dealer via email and they gave me almost 8% discount immediately. Assuming I could use 7% discount, my CAP cost is $44742. How much would it be with $500 buildout cash, $1000 credit USA driving team and 7 MSD?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 234,725
    tomvu1606 said:

    And does it include my 7 MSD?

    The 2015 that I have here doesn't have the M-sport package so I'm reluctant to take it. The MSRP is $48110. Last year, I contacted the same dealer via email and they gave me almost 8% discount immediately. Assuming I could use 7% discount, my CAP cost is $44742. How much would it be with $500 buildout cash, $1000 credit USA driving team and 7 MSD?

    Nope.. forgot to do the MSDs.. $517/mo. with MSDs and .00081 MF on the 2016

    2015: Cap cost of $44,742 = $500 + tax with MSDs

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  • tomvu1606tomvu1606 Member Posts: 20
    hmm it seems like the 15 is bang of the bucks. So $500 a month includes the build in cash and my $1000 credit as well? 

    What do you guys think of the demo car? Will it break down faster than the new car? The demo one I got offered  today has 8000 miles on it and it is $2500 more. He said the car wil be fine because it still has warranty for 4 years or 40000 miles. I might get better deal on this car but afraid customers who test drove the car might not "treat" it well as their own car 
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 234,725
    tomvu1606 said:

    hmm it seems like the 15 is bang of the bucks. So $500 a month includes the build in cash and my $1000 credit as well? 

    What do you guys think of the demo car? Will it break down faster than the new car? The demo one I got offered  today has 8000 miles on it and it is $2500 more. He said the car wil be fine because it still has warranty for 4 years or 40000 miles. I might get better deal on this car but afraid customers who test drove the car might not "treat" it well as their own car 

    I didn't include the $1000. You'll have the $925 acq.fee to pay, as well.

    If you are leasing, and the car is under warranty and maintenance plan for the full term of the lease, you have nothing to worry about with a demo.

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  • 135iusn135iusn Member Posts: 40
    ' 15 328 xi GC - loaded $61210 MSRP. Is the MF .00130? What is the residual for 10/15/15?

    Invoice per edmonds shows $56,810 Thoughts on my offer?
    Thanks in advance.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 239,555
    135iusn said:

    ' 15 328 xi GC - loaded $61210 MSRP. Is the MF .00130? What is the residual for 10/15/15?

    Invoice per edmonds shows $56,810 Thoughts on my offer?
    Thanks in advance.

    .00130 and 62% for 36/15. Add 2% for 12K and 3% for 10K. $1500 buildout cash.

    Numbers expire today.

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  • 135iusn135iusn Member Posts: 40
    Thanks for the note.
    Anything update for Oct I need to know about?

    Also, thinking of lease for i3 24 months. What is the MF for 10k yr

    thanks again
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 239,555
    Michaell said:

    135iusn said:

    ' 15 328 xi GC - loaded $61210 MSRP. Is the MF .00130? What is the residual for 10/15/15?

    Invoice per edmonds shows $56,810 Thoughts on my offer?
    Thanks in advance.

    .00130 and 62% for 36/15. Add 2% for 12K and 3% for 10K. $1500 buildout cash.

    Numbers expire today.
    135iusn said:

    Thanks for the note.
    Anything update for Oct I need to know about?

    Also, thinking of lease for i3 24 months. What is the MF for 10k yr

    thanks again

    MF went up slightly to .00134.

    Are you looking for a 3-series GT or a 4-series GC?

    24/10 residual for the i3 is 63%; MF is .00134 with $7500 lease cash and $1000 option credit.

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  • 135iusn135iusn Member Posts: 40
    Initially the 4-series GC. I've been researching the i3.. I drove the GT and really like it, but I just don't care for the rear hatch styling. Wish the GT was shaped like the GC but on the 5er platform... but not as big as a 6 GT .. too many choices.. Plus love the look of the 328d touring with great diesel MPG's. That's on my list too.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 239,555
    135iusn said:

    Initially the 4-series GC. I've been researching the i3.. I drove the GT and really like it, but I just don't care for the rear hatch styling. Wish the GT was shaped like the GC but on the 5er platform... but not as big as a 6 GT .. too many choices.. Plus love the look of the 328d touring with great diesel MPG's. That's on my list too.

    2016 4-series GT 36/15 - 55% and $1000 buildout credit. Add 2% for 12K and 3% for 10K

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  • lvly777lvly777 Member Posts: 22
    I'm new to leasing, could you please tell me if this is a good deal? I'm looking at a 2016 428i GC. I've gotten #'s on it as well as the 2015 428i coupe. Prefer the 2016 GC but also want a low pmt. Can you let me know what u think of both offers below? They haven't figured in my trade (2011Bmw528i) yet...I'm not in a hurry, Would I be better off waiting for Nov/Dec deals? Thanks in advance!!

    2016 428i GC
    $57720 MSRP
    -$5220 Loyalty Discount/Dealer Discount/ $1000 Q4 Option Credit
    =$52500 Sale Price/Cap Cost on lease
    .00134 Money Factor
    $31746 Residual (55% of MSRP)
    $689.39 Total Monthly Payment with $0 down payment.
    Total due at lease signing consists of:
    $0 Down Payment
    $0 Security Deposit
    $699 Document Fee to United BMW
    $925 Lease Acquisition Fee to BMW Financial Services
    $689.39 First Payment on the lease

    OR)

    2015 428i Coupe
    $55350 MSRP
    -$6560 Loyalty Discount/Dealer Discount/ 2015 Closeout Discount
    =$48790 Sale Price/Cap Cost on lease
    .00134 Money Factor
    $32103.00 Residual (58% of MSRP)
    $571.93 Total Monthly Payment with $0 down payment.
    Total due at lease signing consists of:
    $0 Down Payment
    $0 Security Deposit
    $699 Document Fee to United BMW
    $925 Lease Acquisition Fee to BMW Financial Services
    $571.93 First Payment on the lease
  • lvly777lvly777 Member Posts: 22
    Forgot to mention, we also have a 7% state tax here, ugh
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 239,555
    lvly777 said:

    I'm new to leasing, could you please tell me if this is a good deal? I'm looking at a 2016 428i GC. I've gotten #'s on it as well as the 2015 428i coupe. Prefer the 2016 GC but also want a low pmt. Can you let me know what u think of both offers below? They haven't figured in my trade (2011Bmw528i) yet...I'm not in a hurry, Would I be better off waiting for Nov/Dec deals? Thanks in advance!!

    2016 428i GC
    $57720 MSRP
    -$5220 Loyalty Discount/Dealer Discount/ $1000 Q4 Option Credit
    =$52500 Sale Price/Cap Cost on lease
    .00134 Money Factor
    $31746 Residual (55% of MSRP)
    $689.39 Total Monthly Payment with $0 down payment.
    Total due at lease signing consists of:
    $0 Down Payment
    $0 Security Deposit
    $699 Document Fee to United BMW
    $925 Lease Acquisition Fee to BMW Financial Services
    $689.39 First Payment on the lease

    OR)

    2015 428i Coupe
    $55350 MSRP
    -$6560 Loyalty Discount/Dealer Discount/ 2015 Closeout Discount
    =$48790 Sale Price/Cap Cost on lease
    .00134 Money Factor
    $32103.00 Residual (58% of MSRP)
    $571.93 Total Monthly Payment with $0 down payment.
    Total due at lease signing consists of:
    $0 Down Payment
    $0 Security Deposit
    $699 Document Fee to United BMW
    $925 Lease Acquisition Fee to BMW Financial Services
    $571.93 First Payment on the lease

    For the first deal, I get $738/mo with 7% tax.

    For the second deal, I get $612/mo with tax.

    Your offers look good by comparison .. unless I don't have all the right information.

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  • lvly777lvly777 Member Posts: 22
    Thank you. I'm assuming they didn't figure in the tax and that's why the payment they are giving is lower? Do u typically see better year end deals? Would u say it pays to wait it out some? 
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 234,725
    lvly777 said:

    Thank you. I'm assuming they didn't figure in the tax and that's why the payment they are giving is lower? Do u typically see better year end deals? Would u say it pays to wait it out some? 

    You can't wait too long on the 2015 models.. They will all be gone.

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  • tomasz_tomasz_ Member Posts: 6
    What is money factor and residual for 2016 BMW 428 i convertible for 10 000 miles?l
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 234,725
    tomasz_ said:

    What is money factor and residual for 2016 BMW 428 i convertible for 10 000 miles?l

    .00134 MF and 58% residual. $1000 option credit.

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  • bpturtlebpturtle Member Posts: 19
    Hi,

    What is the MF and RV for 12k miles for a 2016 BMW 428i convertible?

    Any incentives/credits?

    Also, I saw a previous poster mention a loyalty discount. How do you get that? I'm a previous leasee but it's been about 1.5 years since I returned that lease.

    Thanks!
    Tara
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 239,555
    bpturtle said:

    Hi,

    What is the MF and RV for 12k miles for a 2016 BMW 428i convertible?

    Any incentives/credits?

    Also, I saw a previous poster mention a loyalty discount. How do you get that? I'm a previous leasee but it's been about 1.5 years since I returned that lease.

    Thanks!
    Tara

    .00134 MF and 57% residual. $1000 option credit.

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  • bpturtlebpturtle Member Posts: 19
    Michaell said:

    bpturtle said:

    Hi,

    What is the MF and RV for 12k miles for a 2016 BMW 428i convertible?

    Any incentives/credits?

    Also, I saw a previous poster mention a loyalty discount. How do you get that? I'm a previous leasee but it's been about 1.5 years since I returned that lease.

    Thanks!
    Tara

    .00134 MF and 57% residual. $1000 option credit.

    Do you have to have certain options on your vehicle to get the $1000 option credit?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 239,555
    bpturtle said:

    Michaell said:

    bpturtle said:

    Hi,

    What is the MF and RV for 12k miles for a 2016 BMW 428i convertible?

    Any incentives/credits?

    Also, I saw a previous poster mention a loyalty discount. How do you get that? I'm a previous leasee but it's been about 1.5 years since I returned that lease.

    Thanks!
    Tara

    .00134 MF and 57% residual. $1000 option credit.

    Do you have to have certain options on your vehicle to get the $1000 option credit?
    No, it's just one of many names BMW uses for incentives.

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  • bpturtlebpturtle Member Posts: 19
    Hi Again,

    I've negotiated a sale price of $50k on a 428i convertible that has an MSRP of $53595. MF was locked in earlier at 0.0013 and RV is 57%. What do you think of that deal? That sale price includes all discounts. Tax rate is 8%.

    Thanks!
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