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  • jattana809jattana809 Member Posts: 2
    Hi,

    How much longer can you lease a 2016?

    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,196

    Hi,

    How much longer can you lease a 2016?

    Thanks!

    As long as there is stock available.

    However, at some point BMW will stop supporting the leases, which will then make them expensive.

    No idea when that support will end, however. Current program runs through October.

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  • jattana809jattana809 Member Posts: 2
    Thank you, Michaell. Do you happen to have the MF and residuals for 24month/36 month @ 10K miles for a 428ix GC?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,196

    Thank you, Michaell. Do you happen to have the MF and residuals for 24month/36 month @ 10K miles for a 428ix GC?

    .00136 and 69% / 63%. $1500 option allowance.

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  • ebenvenutiebenvenuti Member Posts: 6
    Hi Michaell- can you let me know if you think this is a good deal

    2016 4 Series GC 428i
    MSRP - $50,495
    Sales Price - $45,988
    Tax - 6.25%
    Tag/Reg - $110
    Title & Other - $226.75
    MF - 0.00176
    Residual - 63% of MSRP ($31,811.85)

    $4,294 down at $543/month with 10K Miles or $10k down at $369/month.

    (Excludes $1,500 BMW incentive)

    Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,889

    Hi Michaell- can you let me know if you think this is a good deal

    2016 4 Series GC 428i
    MSRP - $50,495
    Sales Price - $45,988
    Tax - 6.25%
    Tag/Reg - $110
    Title & Other - $226.75
    MF - 0.00176
    Residual - 63% of MSRP ($31,811.85)

    $4,294 down at $543/month with 10K Miles or $10k down at $369/month.

    (Excludes $1,500 BMW incentive)

    Thanks!

    .00136 MF and 63% residual for 36/10.
    $1500 option allowance.

    Money factor is marked up the maximum.
    Why didn't they give a quote that included the incentive?
    What state is this?

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  • ebenvenutiebenvenuti Member Posts: 6
    Texas
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,196

    Texas

    Ouch - Texas is only one of a few states that taxes the entire selling price, even for a lease.

    I'd find out what the up front money covers - might include the sales tax amount, first payment, dealer fee and bank fee. But, get it broken out.

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  • crundiecrundie Member Posts: 36
    Can you please post the MF and residual on a 2016 435xi GC and give your input on this deal?

    I am being quoted the following on a demo with 10k miles on it:

    Original sticker price: $66,695
    MSRP: $56,088 (Wouldn't this actually be "Asking Price" since MSRP is on new cars?)
    Sale price $55,788
    M/F .00156
    Residual @ 10k miles per year ($39,633)
    36 months @ $552 plus tax

    This doesn't add up to me. My math says:
    Sale price - residual = 16155 x 4.056 (MF) = 736.66
    Total lease amount = 16,891 /36 months = 469/month + tax

    My math puts residual value at 59% of Original Sticker Price. Would that be accurate for this car at the end of this lease? It would effectively have 3 years 8 months in service and 40k miles?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,196
    crundie said:

    Can you please post the MF and residual on a 2016 435xi GC and give your input on this deal?

    I am being quoted the following on a demo with 10k miles on it:

    Original sticker price: $66,695
    MSRP: $56,088 (Wouldn't this actually be "Asking Price" since MSRP is on new cars?)
    Sale price $55,788
    M/F .00156
    Residual @ 10k miles per year ($39,633)
    36 months @ $552 plus tax

    This doesn't add up to me. My math says:
    Sale price - residual = 16155 x 4.056 (MF) = 736.66
    Total lease amount = 16,891 /36 months = 469/month + tax

    My math puts residual value at 59% of Original Sticker Price. Would that be accurate for this car at the end of this lease? It would effectively have 3 years 8 months in service and 40k miles?

    .00136 and 63% for 36/10 on a new unit. $1500 option allowance. Your MF is marked up for extra profit.

    However, the residual is adjusted .25 per mile for the demo status - $2500 total.

    Leaving the adjusted residual out the math, I get $516/mo before tax with those prices.

    If I subtract the $2500 from the residual, the payment goes to $582/mo before tax.

    Residual values for a lease rarely match the true depreciated value - the numbers are set to move inventory.

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  • sofaonasocksofaonasock Member Posts: 16
    Do you have the Mf for a 2016 435 convertible with 36/10?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,889

    Do you have the Mf for a 2016 435 convertible with 36/10?

    The special lease term for convertibles this month is 33 months.

    .00136 MF and 68% residual for 33/10.
    $1500 option allowance.

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  • lhjn2001lhjn2001 Member Posts: 23
    Hi.
    I'm looking for MF and RV for 2016 428i coupe with 36/12. I live in LA area.
    I saw the car for internet. MSRP is $44091. How much I can get a good price?

    Thank you.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,196
    lhjn2001 said:

    Hi.
    I'm looking for MF and RV for 2016 428i coupe with 36/12. I live in LA area.
    I saw the car for internet. MSRP is $44091. How much I can get a good price?

    Thank you.

    .00136 and 62%. $1500 option allowance.

    7% off sticker, before incentives, is a good price.

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  • josad99josad99 Member Posts: 35
    Looking for lease rate and residual for 2016 428i convertible 24/10 and 24/12 - thanks for all of the information
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,889
    josad99 said:

    Looking for lease rate and residual for 2016 428i convertible 24/10 and 24/12 - thanks for all of the information

    .00136 MF and 69%/68% residual. $1500 option allowance.

    The incentivized term is 33 months, this month.
    Residuals are just 1% less than the 24 month term.

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  • Igor KaganIgor Kagan Member Posts: 30
    Hi, what is the RV for 328i grand coupe 36/10 (or 33/10 if available).
    Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,889
    ikagan65 said:

    Hi, what is the RV for 328i grand coupe 36/10 (or 33/10 if available).
    Thanks!

    The Gran Coupe is a 428i, not 328i (bet you knew that)

    .00136 MF and 63% residual for 36/10.
    $1500 option allowance

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  • Igor KaganIgor Kagan Member Posts: 30
    Thanks, yes meant 428i
  • tcraftncsutcraftncsu Member Posts: 15
    Hi all - I see that the numbers for a 2016 428i Gran Coupe with 10k miles is:

    .00136 MF and 63% residual for 36/10.
    $1500 option allowance

    What is the residual for the same vehicle with 12k miles? Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,889

    Hi all - I see that the numbers for a 2016 428i Gran Coupe with 10k miles is:

    .00136 MF and 63% residual for 36/10.
    $1500 option allowance

    What is the residual for the same vehicle with 12k miles? Thanks!

    Subtract 1% to go from 10K/yr to 12K/yr

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  • tcraftncsutcraftncsu Member Posts: 15
    Thank you!
  • jinrummyjinrummy Member Posts: 9
    Hello. Can you please provide the current MF and RV for a 2016 428i Convertible at 36/15? Thanks.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,889
    jinrummy said:

    Hello. Can you please provide the current MF and RV for a 2016 428i Convertible at 36/15? Thanks.

    .00136 MF and 65% residual for 33/15.
    $1500 option allowance.

    33 months is the incentivized term for convertibles, this month.

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  • jinang23jinang23 Member Posts: 10
    Is it a good deal if I get a 2017 430i GC 5.5K off the MSRP?
    Also, can someone please let me know the residual and MF for 10k/12k/15k for the same.
    Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,889
    jinang23 said:

    Is it a good deal if I get a 2017 430i GC 5.5K off the MSRP?
    Also, can someone please let me know the residual and MF for 10k/12k/15k for the same.
    Thanks!

    The 2017 discussion is here:
    http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/42161/bmw/4-series/2017-bmw-4-series-lease-questions#latest

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  • jinang23jinang23 Member Posts: 10
    Sorry about that....I was too soon to post before checking for a 2017 thread :)
    kyfdx said:

    jinang23 said:

    Is it a good deal if I get a 2017 430i GC 5.5K off the MSRP?
    Also, can someone please let me know the residual and MF for 10k/12k/15k for the same.
    Thanks!

    The 2017 discussion is here:
    http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/42161/bmw/4-series/2017-bmw-4-series-lease-questions#latest
  • gosoonersgosooners Member Posts: 45
    Hi, can you provide MF and residuals for a 2016 435i Gran Coupe at 15k/y, 36mo? Thank you!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,196
    gosooners said:

    Hi, can you provide MF and residuals for a 2016 435i Gran Coupe at 15k/y, 36mo? Thank you!

    .00134 and 58%. $1500 lease cash.

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  • cptstern1cptstern1 Member Posts: 18
    Hi Can you provide numbers for a 2016 435 Convertible at 36/12. Or what ever term has an incentive...
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,889
    cptstern1 said:

    Hi Can you provide numbers for a 2016 435 Convertible at 36/12. Or what ever term has an incentive...

    .00134 MF and 60% residual for 36/12.
    $1500 option allowance.

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  • lexusguy23lexusguy23 Member Posts: 80
    Hi can I get the numbers for 2016 430i coupe at 36/12? Any lease incentives or rebates?

    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,196

    Hi can I get the numbers for 2016 430i coupe at 36/12? Any lease incentives or rebates?

    Thanks!

    No 430i coupe for 2016.

    Numbers are .00134 and 60% for all trims, however. $1500 option allowance.

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  • lexusguy23lexusguy23 Member Posts: 80
    Thanks Michaell! I am looking at a 2016 BMW 428i w/SULEV Gran Coupe in TX. MSRP is $51,395 and the dealer's sale price is $46,488. Do you think there is any wiggle room to bring that down any lower? I'm sure they are already figuring in the $1500 option allowance. New to BMW so not sure what the discount is, especially with the 1 year old models.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,196

    Thanks Michaell! I am looking at a 2016 BMW 428i w/SULEV Gran Coupe in TX. MSRP is $51,395 and the dealer's sale price is $46,488. Do you think there is any wiggle room to bring that down any lower? I'm sure they are already figuring in the $1500 option allowance. New to BMW so not sure what the discount is, especially with the 1 year old models.

    Generally, 7% off sticker before incentives is a good price for a BMW. You might be able to get more of a discount, given that it's a model year old.

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  • lexusguy23lexusguy23 Member Posts: 80
    Fantastic, thanks Michaell. You guys rock! I've been coming to the forums for years now and this is my 3rd leased vehicle. The information you and your team provide here is extremely valuable for the consumer.
  • jinrummyjinrummy Member Posts: 9
    kyfdx said:

    jinrummy said:

    Hello. Can you please provide the current MF and RV for a 2016 428i Convertible at 36/15? Thanks.

    .00136 MF and 65% residual for 33/15.
    $1500 option allowance.

    33 months is the incentivized term for convertibles, this month.
    Thank you. Can I get the same for a 2017 430i Convertible at same rate and terms? Thank you.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,196
    jinrummy said:

    kyfdx said:

    jinrummy said:

    Hello. Can you please provide the current MF and RV for a 2016 428i Convertible at 36/15? Thanks.

    .00136 MF and 65% residual for 33/15.
    $1500 option allowance.

    33 months is the incentivized term for convertibles, this month.
    Thank you. Can I get the same for a 2017 430i Convertible at same rate and terms? Thank you.
    2017 discussion is here:

    http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/42161/bmw/4-series/2017-bmw-4-series-lease-questions#latest

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  • jct28580jct28580 Member Posts: 6
    I'm looking at a 2016 BMW 428i convertible - lease. My question is:
    1. What is a good target price off of the MSRP percentage wise?
    2. MF for the 2016 428i convertible 36m/10K lease
    3. Residual for the 2016 428i convertible 36m/10k

    Thank you very much. Your information is useful and a valuable tool.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,196
    jct28580 said:

    I'm looking at a 2016 BMW 428i convertible - lease. My question is:
    1. What is a good target price off of the MSRP percentage wise?
    2. MF for the 2016 428i convertible 36m/10K lease
    3. Residual for the 2016 428i convertible 36m/10k

    Thank you very much. Your information is useful and a valuable tool.

    1. 7% (or more) off MSRP, before incentives
    2. .00134
    3. 61%
    4. $1500 option allowance

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  • kapkanimdkapkanimd Member Posts: 136
    any 428 and 435 numbers for December 12k/36mo? Incentives? Thanks in advance.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,196
    kapkanimd said:

    any 428 and 435 numbers for December 12k/36mo? Incentives? Thanks in advance.

    .00134 and 60%. No incentives on the 2017 4-series, this month.

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  • kapkanimdkapkanimd Member Posts: 136
    Just to clarify, are we talking about 2016 or 2017? I was asking about 16, but you mentioned no incentives for 17
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,196
    kapkanimd said:

    Just to clarify, are we talking about 2016 or 2017? I was asking about 16, but you mentioned no incentives for 17

    Whoops, good catch. I did quote the 2017 numbers.

    2016 - .00134 and 60%. $1500 option allowance.

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  • pahosa19pahosa19 Member Posts: 2
    Hey guys received a quote for 2016 428xi GC loaner:

    MSRP: 52,045
    Sale Price: 43,296 (incld 1000 incentive)
    MF: .00134
    Residual: 59%
    4,500 miles
    10k/36
    $3,482 fees/taxes at signing
    $448/mo

    how does that all sound? Thanks in advanced!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,196
    pahosa19 said:

    Hey guys received a quote for 2016 428xi GC loaner:

    MSRP: 52,045
    Sale Price: 43,296 (incld 1000 incentive)
    MF: .00134
    Residual: 59%
    4,500 miles
    10k/36
    $3,482 fees/taxes at signing
    $448/mo

    how does that all sound? Thanks in advanced!

    Looks good to me. Calculations are correct.

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  • pahosa19pahosa19 Member Posts: 2
    Michaell said:

    pahosa19 said:

    Hey guys received a quote for 2016 428xi GC loaner:

    MSRP: 52,045
    Sale Price: 43,296 (incld 1000 incentive)
    MF: .00134
    Residual: 59%
    4,500 miles
    10k/36
    $3,482 fees/taxes at signing
    $448/mo

    how does that all sound? Thanks in advanced!

    Looks good to me. Calculations are correct.
    Great, thanks very much for the confirmation. Feel more comfortable moving forward now. Much appreciated for your time.
  • jerseyjackjerseyjack Member Posts: 13
    Hi can you provide the 2017 4 series convertible (440i) residual and MF for 36 month and 12k/yr and 10k/yr?

    Also, are you aware of any particular year end incentives?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,196

    Hi can you provide the 2017 4 series convertible (440i) residual and MF for 36 month and 12k/yr and 10k/yr?

    Also, are you aware of any particular year end incentives?

    I see you've also posted in the 2017 discussion .. I'll catch up with you there.

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  • jzaid84jzaid84 Member Posts: 107
    Cold I have Resi and MF for 2016 428i Gran Coupe 36/10 and 36/12
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