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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,993
    typhooon said:

    Michaell said:

    typhooon said:

    Can I have numbers for 2016 C300 RWD/36mo/12K in northern California?

    59% and .00082
    Is the money factor based on Auto Pay and security deposits?
    No, that is the base MF before any adjustments.

    Subtract .00010 for AutoPay

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  • junebug2017junebug2017 Member Posts: 10
    Can i get mf and 10k/36 residual on 2017 c63s coupe with european delivery. Thank you!!
  • junebug2017junebug2017 Member Posts: 10
    Can i get mf and 10k/36 residual on 2017 c43 Cabriolet with european delivery. Thank you!!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,993

    Can i get mf and 10k/36 residual on 2017 c63s coupe with european delivery. Thank you!!

    Can i get mf and 10k/36 residual on 2017 c43 Cabriolet with european delivery. Thank you!!

    2017 C class discussion is here

    http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/40633/mercedes-benz/c-class/2017-mercedes-benz-c-class-lease-questions#latest

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  • doobeedoobee Member Posts: 44
    What are the latest numbers for MF and residual for 2016 C300 10k\36mo? Any intensives?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,993
    doobee said:

    What are the latest numbers for MF and residual for 2016 C300 10k\36mo? Any intensives?

    RWD or AWD?

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  • doobeedoobee Member Posts: 44
    Michaell said:

    doobee said:

    What are the latest numbers for MF and residual for 2016 C300 10k\36mo? Any intensives?

    RWD or AWD?
    RWD please.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,993
    doobee said:

    Michaell said:

    doobee said:

    What are the latest numbers for MF and residual for 2016 C300 10k\36mo? Any intensives?

    RWD or AWD?
    RWD please.
    .00082 and 60%

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  • emad86emad86 Member Posts: 26
    edited October 2016
    Hello all,

    Can I have c300 4matic and rwd rates for 24\10 and 36\10 as well as 12k miles for both. Located in South Florida.

    Thank you!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,993
    emad86 said:

    Hello all,

    Can I have c300 4matic and rwd rates for 24\10 and 36\10 as well as 12k miles for both. Located in South Florida.

    Thank you!

    67% / 61% for 10K. Subtract 1% for 12K

    .00101 MF

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  • tim8787tim8787 Member Posts: 15
    edited November 2016
    Hi,

    Could you tell me the MF and residual for November for 2016 C300 4matic sedan 24/12 and 36/12? Located in central Indiana.

    Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,671
    tim8787 said:

    Hi,

    Could you tell me the MF and residual for November for 2016 C300 4matic sedan 24/12 and 36/12? Located in central Indiana.

    Thanks!

    .00083 MF and 65%/59% residual

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  • mae2050mae2050 Member Posts: 8
    edited November 2016
    kyfdx,

    Are the numbers ".00083 MF and 65%/59% residual" the same for the 2016 C300 4matic between NC and MA?

    I live in NC but I'm looking at a car in MA.
  • mmc63amgmmc63amg Member Posts: 17
    Can I get residual and mf for amg c63s coupe. 7.5k or 10k if not available. Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,671
    mae2050 said:

    kyfdx,

    Are the numbers ".00083 MF and 65%/59% residual" the same for the 2016 C300 4matic between NC and MA?

    I live in NC but I'm looking at a car in MA.

    Nationwide

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,671
    mmc63amg said:

    Can I get residual and mf for amg c63s coupe. 7.5k or 10k if not available. Thanks!

    What model year? This is the 2016 discussion.

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  • standingotenstandingoten Member Posts: 13
    Can I have Nov numbers for 2016:

    C300 4matic 36/10k
    C450 4matic 36/10k
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,993

    Can I have Nov numbers for 2016:

    C300 4matic 36/10k
    C450 4matic 36/10k

    300 - .00083 and 60%
    450 - .00096 and 59%

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  • phantomcypherphantomcypher Member Posts: 22
    Michaell said:

    Can I have Nov numbers for 2016:

    C300 4matic 36/10k
    C450 4matic 36/10k

    300 - .00083 and 60%
    450 - .00096 and 59%
    Are the rates and residuals the same for a 2016 C300 RWD?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,671

    Michaell said:

    Can I have Nov numbers for 2016:

    C300 4matic 36/10k
    C450 4matic 36/10k

    300 - .00083 and 60%
    450 - .00096 and 59%
    Are the rates and residuals the same for a 2016 C300 RWD?
    .00064 MF and 59% residual

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  • robdargrobdarg Member Posts: 2
    edited November 2016
    I had 2 questions.

    1. Can i get the MF for 2016 c300 4matic in jersey as of november? standard deduction in MF for auto pay still available? As well as the residual. 36mo/10k.

    2. I know this is a subjective question, but on a sticker of $52k for a 2016, can i push for a 10k discount on msrp? or is that too much to ask for? Just trying to be aware of limits so the negotiations aren't meaningless.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,993
    robdarg said:

    I had 2 questions.

    1. Can i get the MF for 2016 c300 4matic in jersey as of november? standard deduction in MF for auto pay still available? As well as the residual. 36mo/10k.

    2. I know this is a subjective question, but on a sticker of $52k for a 2016, can i push for a 10k discount on msrp? or is that too much to ask for? Just trying to be aware of limits so the negotiations aren't meaningless.

    1. what lease term and how many miles per year?
    2. we don't track pricing ... read back through the last page or two of this discussion to see what others have been able to negotiate

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,671
    robdarg said:

    I had 2 questions.

    1. Can i get the MF for 2016 c300 4matic in jersey as of november? standard deduction in MF for auto pay still available? As well as the residual. 36mo/10k.

    2. I know this is a subjective question, but on a sticker of $52k for a 2016, can i push for a 10k discount on msrp? or is that too much to ask for? Just trying to be aware of limits so the negotiations aren't meaningless.

    .00064 MF and 59% residual.
    .00054 MF with autopay

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  • cablvrcablvr Member Posts: 22
    MF & residual for C300 4MATIC in PA and NJ including autopay. 36M/12K. Thanks.
  • cablvrcablvr Member Posts: 22
    What trunk $$ is available?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,993
    cablvr said:

    MF & residual for C300 4MATIC in PA and NJ including autopay. 36M/12K. Thanks.

    cablvr said:

    What trunk $$ is available?

    .00083 and 59%

    No incentive information for MB

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  • omiller2655omiller2655 Member Posts: 1
    I am looking for residual and money factor for 3 year 15k per year and also 2 year 15 per year on c300 4matic in western New York. trying to decide between one of these and a 340i, is the general consensus that it seems there will be better deals next month?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,993

    I am looking for residual and money factor for 3 year 15k per year and also 2 year 15 per year on c300 4matic in western New York. trying to decide between one of these and a 340i, is the general consensus that it seems there will be better deals next month?

    .00083 and 63% / 57%

    No prediction on next month's numbers.

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  • luxe217luxe217 Member Posts: 2
    Hi, can I please get the MF and residual in Utah(84070) for the 2016 C63 S AMG sedan, 36/7.5 or 36/10.

    Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,671
    luxe217 said:

    Hi, can I please get the MF and residual in Utah(84070) for the 2016 C63 S AMG sedan, 36/7.5 or 36/10.

    Thanks!

    .00122 MF and 51%/50% residual

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  • ROBRTM5ROBRTM5 Member Posts: 81
    Hello Kyfdx - Can you please share the MF and Residual for a 2016 and 2017 C300 RWD Sedan. Looking for 36/12 - South Florida area.

    Thanks...RM
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,993
    ROBRTM5 said:

    Hello Kyfdx - Can you please share the MF and Residual for a 2016 and 2017 C300 RWD Sedan. Looking for 36/12 - South Florida area.

    Thanks...RM

    2016 58% and .00064

    2017 discussion is here:
    http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/40633/mercedes-benz/c-class/2017-mercedes-benz-c-class-lease-questions#latest

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  • trooks93trooks93 Member Posts: 1
    Question about leasing a 2016 C300 loaner. Dealer says same deal as new 2016, but with lower price, but their numbers are off a bit for 36/10. I assume the MF is marked up (0.00093 offered vs. 0.00054 w/ autopay). Residual is also off (60% offered vs. 59%). Just curious... Overall, I think it's a good deal since they're taking over $10k off of MSRP ($50,470).

    Can you still do MSD? If MB still allows 10, could you have a zero MF? If you got 0.00054, do 8 sec deposits?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,993
    trooks93 said:

    Question about leasing a 2016 C300 loaner. Dealer says same deal as new 2016, but with lower price, but their numbers are off a bit for 36/10. I assume the MF is marked up (0.00093 offered vs. 0.00054 w/ autopay). Residual is also off (60% offered vs. 59%). Just curious... Overall, I think it's a good deal since they're taking over $10k off of MSRP ($50,470).

    Can you still do MSD? If MB still allows 10, could you have a zero MF? If you got 0.00054, do 8 sec deposits?

    The residual is adjusted to account for the miles, so it should be lower, not higher, than a "new" car.

    Dealer can mark up the MF for extra profit yes.

    Cannot have a 0 MF. Not sure what the minimum MF is for MB, but certainly not 0.

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  • tim8787tim8787 Member Posts: 15
    edited November 2016
    I'm also trying to get some numbers for a 2016 c300 4matic loaner.
    36/15
    MSRP $52,170
    Selling Price $43,009
    Doc fee $150
    Acquisition $795
    Residual 57%
    MF .000837 - I was shown this amount but is it possible I was shown the base and a marked up MF is actually used in the calculation?
    Auto Pay
    10 msds
    7% Indiana tax
    Tire Tax $1.25
    Also, prepaid maintenance of $975

    I was given $498.65 a month on 36/15. I asked about a fee breakdown, MF, and residuals, but it's not adding up. Any pointers on what I'm missing?

    Thank you!


  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,671
    tim8787 said:

    I'm also trying to get some numbers for a 2016 c300 4matic loaner.
    36/15
    MSRP $52,170
    Selling Price $43,009
    Doc fee $150
    Acquisition $795
    Residual 57%
    MF .000837 - I was shown this amount but is it possible I was shown the base and a marked up MF is actually used in the calculation?
    Auto Pay
    10 msds
    7% Indiana tax
    Tire Tax $1.25
    Also, prepaid maintenance of $975

    I was given $498.65 a month on 36/15. I asked about a fee breakdown, MF, and residuals, but it's not adding up. Any pointers on what I'm missing?

    Thank you!


    .00083 MF is the base number, without MSDs.
    It would appear they are marking up the money factor for extra profit, then using the MSDs to take it back to the base rate.

    How much is due at signing?

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  • tim8787tim8787 Member Posts: 15
    $5500 msd
    $150 doc fee
    $15 BMV charge
    $1.25 Indiana tire tax
    $498.65 first month payment

    I was told the selling price and the cap cost are the same amount too.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,671
    tim8787 said:

    $5500 msd
    $150 doc fee
    $15 BMV charge
    $1.25 Indiana tire tax
    $498.65 first month payment

    I was told the selling price and the cap cost are the same amount too.

    The selling price and the adjusted CAP cost can't be the same.

    If the selling price were the CAP cost, it would be $429/mo.+tax = $459/mo.
    The adjusted CAP cost has to include the $795 acquisition fee, since you aren't paying that upfront.
    Also, the prepaid maintenance?

    Adding those charges in gets us much closer.

    There should also be a residual amount reduction, to account for the current mileage on the vehicle.
    You might ask them for the actual residual number.

    The only real red flag I see is the need for MSDs to get down to what is the base MF, anyway.

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  • tim8787tim8787 Member Posts: 15
    Ah I see. I'm guessing the prepaid maintenance is rolled into the adjusted cap cost but I'll confirm. Thank you - this gives me something to start with.
  • standingotenstandingoten Member Posts: 13
    Can I have numbers for C450:

    24/10k
    24/12k
    36/12k?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,671

    Can I have numbers for C450:

    24/10k
    24/12k
    36/12k?

    .00096 MF
    64%/63%/58% residual

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  • doobeedoobee Member Posts: 44
    What are the November numbers for 2016 C300 RWD 36/10 in CA? any incentives for loyalty customers?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,993
    doobee said:

    What are the November numbers for 2016 C300 RWD 36/10 in CA? any incentives for loyalty customers?

    59% and .00064.

    No incentive information for MB.

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  • lvrebellvrebel Member Posts: 11
    Looking for MF and Residual for 2016 CLA 4Matic and 2017 CLA 4Matic for Washington State. Also, what should I look for in fair negotiation of discount off MSRP. Appreciate the response.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,993
    lvrebel said:

    Looking for MF and Residual for 2016 CLA 4Matic and 2017 CLA 4Matic for Washington State. Also, what should I look for in fair negotiation of discount off MSRP. Appreciate the response.

    CLA discussions are here:

    http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/43248/mercedes-benz/cla-class/2017-mercedes-benz-cla-class-lease-questions#latest

    http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/37562/mercedes-benz/cla-class/2016-mercedes-benz-cla-class-lease-questions#latest

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  • djjp1990djjp1990 Member Posts: 16
    Looking for the MF/Residual for a 2016 C300 Sedan RWD for 36 months/15k miles. Thanks in advance!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,993
    djjp1990 said:

    Looking for the MF/Residual for a 2016 C300 Sedan RWD for 36 months/15k miles. Thanks in advance!

    .00064 and 56%

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  • mmc63amgmmc63amg Member Posts: 17
    Do the lease rates adjust on a regular/set timeframe? If so, when? I am assuming monthly, but not sure. I have an ordered AMG C63S cab showing up in a few weeks and want to get the latest rates before I close the deal. Thanks. Looking at 3 yr 10k or a 3yr single pay lease just depending on the rates at the time.
    Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,993
    mmc63amg said:

    Do the lease rates adjust on a regular/set timeframe? If so, when? I am assuming monthly, but not sure. I have an ordered AMG C63S cab showing up in a few weeks and want to get the latest rates before I close the deal. Thanks. Looking at 3 yr 10k or a 3yr single pay lease just depending on the rates at the time.
    Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving!

    Current MB numbers expire 11/30. No change to the MF expected, but residual could move a bit next month.

    No guesses as to what direction, however.

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  • mmc63amgmmc63amg Member Posts: 17
    Thanks. So, what is the current mf and residual for 36/10 for C63AS(cab). Also do you happen to know the single pay rate?
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