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  • whopper2whopper2 Member Posts: 4
    Yes, $1500 total due at signing and yes 6.25%
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,029
    whopper2 said:

    Yes, $1500 total due at signing and yes 6.25%

    The adjusted cap has to be less than $30,724 for a $295/mo payment.

    With your numbers, I get $349/mo with tax.

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  • alcapalcap Member Posts: 88
    I live in NJ looking to lease 2016.5 Mazda CX-5 GT with GRAND TOURING TECHNOLOGY PACKAGE and I-ACTIVSENSE PACKAGE. I am looking for MF and Residual Value and if any cash back or Labor Day incentives.
  • smtim911smtim911 Member Posts: 19
    Hi, I'm shopping around for a Mazda CX-5. What's the best residual + discount combo right now for a 36 month/12k miles lease at the moment?

    Also, does Mazda allow you to buy down the interest rate with security deposits?
  • smtim911smtim911 Member Posts: 19
    Sorry I forgot to say thank you ahead of time! :smile:
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,702
    alcap said:

    I live in NJ looking to lease 2016.5 Mazda CX-5 GT with GRAND TOURING TECHNOLOGY PACKAGE and I-ACTIVSENSE PACKAGE. I am looking for MF and Residual Value and if any cash back or Labor Day incentives.

    Assuming AWD?

    .00014 MF and 59% residual for 36/15.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,702
    Smtim91 said:

    Hi, I'm shopping around for a Mazda CX-5. What's the best residual + discount combo right now for a 36 month/12k miles lease at the moment?

    Also, does Mazda allow you to buy down the interest rate with security deposits?

    Do you mean which trim is best?

    .00014 MF and 62% residual for the Touring AWD model for 36/12.
    GT and Sport residuals are 61%.

    So, pick the one you like.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,702
    Smtim91 said:

    Sorry I forgot to say thank you ahead of time! :smile:

    You're welcome

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  • gatzogatzo Member Posts: 4
    edited August 2016
    Hello,
    Can I get numbers for a Mazda CX-5 Touring AWD 36months/12k per year? My zip code is 10502.
    Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,702
    gatzo said:

    Hello,
    Can I get numbers for a Mazda CX-5 Touring AWD 36months/12k per year? My zip code is 10502.
    Thanks!

    .00014 MF and 62% residual

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  • hfuchs19hfuchs19 Member Posts: 12
    I signed a 36 month deal yesterday in Texas for a 2016.5 Touring with Bose/Moonroof.

    MSRP: 27245
    Sales Price: 26799 (26099 + 700 check cut back to me from the dealer + 199 for wheel locks/tints)
    Sales Tax: 1644 (Texas tax is on the whole sales price which was rolled into the cap cost)
    Doc fees: 150
    Title/License: 190
    Vehicle Inventory Fee: $53
    Aquisition Fees: 595

    Gross Cap Cost: 29431
    Cap Reduction: 500 labor day cash
    Adjusted Cap cost: 28931
    Residual Value: 16619 (61% for 12K miles/year)
    Deprecation: 12312
    Rent Charge: 229
    Total base of monthly payments 12542

    Monthly payment: 348 for 35 months (since Mazda pays the first month) plus $700 check
    Down payment: 0

    I believe my money factor was 0.0014 but I can't seem to figure out how that calculates in since the rent charge is only $229. I found a website that said that when you have a "rent charge," the MF equals Rent charge/[(Sales Price + Residual Value)*36] which comes out to be 0.00014. Is that correct?

    I had negative equity on my previous lease so I chose not to work it into the new lease and instead asked the dealership to cut me back a check for the remaining payoff amount of $700. The dealership told me that they had to add it into the sales price of the vehicle but could then cut me back the check. That additional amount into the sales price got taxed but it only amounted to roughly $40 dollars so I said OK.

    At the time I thought this was a solid deal but when I got home I started looking at the numbers and second guessing myself. Was this a good deal?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,029
    hfuchs19 said:

    I signed a 36 month deal yesterday in Texas for a 2016.5 Touring with Bose/Moonroof.

    MSRP: 27245
    Sales Price: 26799 (26099 + 700 check cut back to me from the dealer + 199 for wheel locks/tints)
    Sales Tax: 1644 (Texas tax is on the whole sales price which was rolled into the cap cost)
    Doc fees: 150
    Title/License: 190
    Vehicle Inventory Fee: $53
    Aquisition Fees: 595

    Gross Cap Cost: 29431
    Cap Reduction: 500 labor day cash
    Adjusted Cap cost: 28931
    Residual Value: 16619 (61% for 12K miles/year)
    Deprecation: 12312
    Rent Charge: 229
    Total base of monthly payments 12542

    Monthly payment: 348 for 35 months (since Mazda pays the first month) plus $700 check
    Down payment: 0

    I believe my money factor was 0.0014 but I can't seem to figure out how that calculates in since the rent charge is only $229. I found a website that said that when you have a "rent charge," the MF equals Rent charge/[(Sales Price + Residual Value)*36] which comes out to be 0.00014. Is that correct?

    I had negative equity on my previous lease so I chose not to work it into the new lease and instead asked the dealership to cut me back a check for the remaining payoff amount of $700. The dealership told me that they had to add it into the sales price of the vehicle but could then cut me back the check. That additional amount into the sales price got taxed but it only amounted to roughly $40 dollars so I said OK.

    At the time I thought this was a solid deal but when I got home I started looking at the numbers and second guessing myself. Was this a good deal?

    I get the same payment with those numbers. The MF is .00014 this month.

    If you're comfortable with the selling price, go and enjoy your new Mazda!

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  • logitraxlogitrax Member Posts: 106
    Good morning! Now that the Labor Day sales have ended, I was just wondering if the MF and Residual are available yet for Sep-Oct?

    CX-5 Touring AWD
    36 months / 12k
    New York

    Thanks as always!
  • aca109aca109 Member Posts: 15
    Hello, do you have new September numbers for CX-5 Touring AWD, 36/12k, New Jersey? Any incentives?

    Thank you!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,702
    logitrax said:

    Good morning! Now that the Labor Day sales have ended, I was just wondering if the MF and Residual are available yet for Sep-Oct?

    CX-5 Touring AWD
    36 months / 12k
    New York

    Thanks as always!

    .00001 MF and 60% residual

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,702
    aca109 said:

    Hello, do you have new September numbers for CX-5 Touring AWD, 36/12k, New Jersey? Any incentives?

    Thank you!

    .00001 MF and 60% residual

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  • Mark MillerMark Miller Member Posts: 6
    Leased a brand new CX 5 GT w/tech pkg on Monday in NJ. I didn't pay attention to MF and residual because I have no intention of buying vehicle. My terms were $0 down and $350 per mos for 24mos/12k lease. I lurked on this site for two weeks gathering information and it was incredibly helpful. I can provide details later this week if useful for others.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,029
    mmillsny said:

    Leased a brand new CX 5 GT w/tech pkg on Monday in NJ. I didn't pay attention to MF and residual because I have no intention of buying vehicle. My terms were $0 down and $350 per mos for 24mos/12k lease. I lurked on this site for two weeks gathering information and it was incredibly helpful. I can provide details later this week if useful for others.

    Congrats!

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  • logitraxlogitrax Member Posts: 106
    kyfdx said:

    logitrax said:

    Good morning! Now that the Labor Day sales have ended, I was just wondering if the MF and Residual are available yet for Sep-Oct?

    CX-5 Touring AWD
    36 months / 12k
    New York

    Thanks as always!

    .00001 MF and 60% residual
    Thanks!
  • izzy223izzy223 Member Posts: 3
    I've seen other websites use a 4 decimal money factor rate (i.e. .0017 is 4.0% interest rate). What is the difference? Does the .00001 MF you are using equate to what % APR
  • izzy223izzy223 Member Posts: 3
    In Illinois they are only offering a 36/30k mile. How does that impact the MF?
  • logitraxlogitrax Member Posts: 106
    edited September 2016
    izzy223 said:

    I've seen other websites use a 4 decimal money factor rate (i.e. .0017 is 4.0% interest rate). What is the difference? Does the .00001 MF you are using equate to what % APR

    Multiply the MF by 2400 to get the rate.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,702
    edited September 2016
    izzy223 said:

    I've seen other websites use a 4 decimal money factor rate (i.e. .0017 is 4.0% interest rate). What is the difference? Does the .00001 MF you are using equate to what % APR

    .00001 MF = 0.024% APR

    Almost zero... Finance charges on a typical lease would be less than $1/mo.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,702
    izzy223 said:

    In Illinois they are only offering a 36/30k mile. How does that impact the MF?

    They might be advertising 36/10, but you can get 36/12 or 36/15.

    It doesn't change the money factor, only the residual.

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  • rjd9191rjd9191 Member Posts: 13
    Could you please give me the current MF and RV for a 2016.5 CX-5 Grand Touring AWD, 36/12 in Connecticut? Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,702
    rjd9191 said:

    Could you please give me the current MF and RV for a 2016.5 CX-5 Grand Touring AWD, 36/12 in Connecticut? Thanks!

    .00001 MF and 59% residual

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  • dwgutwirdwgutwir Member Posts: 137
    edited September 2016
    For NJ. Tier 1 credit

    MF/Residual for 16.5 CX-5 Grand Touring AWD

    36/12
    36/10

    Any significant differences for 48/12?

    Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,029
    dwgutwir said:

    For NJ. Tier 1 credit

    MF/Residual for 16.5 CX-5 Grand Touring AWD

    36/12
    36/10

    Any significant differences for 48/12?

    Thanks

    .00001 and 59% or 60%

    .00070 and 48% or 49%

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  • chrisutpgchrisutpg Member Posts: 26
    Looking for MF and residual of a 2016.5 touring and grand touring in NJ for 36/12. Both AWD. Any help would be much appreciated!
  • peterp113peterp113 Member Posts: 1
    Hi All, looking for money factor and residual for a Touring AWD Auto in NY 10k/36 months for this month.

    Thanks in advance.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,702
    chrisutpg said:

    Looking for MF and residual of a 2016.5 touring and grand touring in NJ for 36/12. Both AWD. Any help would be much appreciated!

    .00001 MF and 60%/59% residual for Touring/GT

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,702
    peterp113 said:

    Hi All, looking for money factor and residual for a Touring AWD Auto in NY 10k/36 months for this month.

    Thanks in advance.

    .00001 MF and 61% residual

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  • eyewannacareyewannacar Member Posts: 2
    Hello,

    Trying to take advantage of the 2016.5 Mazda CX-5 lease offers available (before Sept 30).
    Looking for 2016.5 CX-5 GT AWD with TECH package and I-Active package in NC 27516

    Wondering if I can negotiate current offer: (I understand payment would be different given the added packages)

    ZERO TO DRIVE LEASE-($279/Month), 36-Month Lease. $0 Down Payment, $0 Security Deposit, $0 1st Month's Payment, $0 due at Lease Signing. Excludes taxes, title and fees. Monthly payment includes a $595 Acquisition Fee. NOTE: ****We have excellent credit***

    What would be the MF and Residual? Dealer claims to be selling at 750 below invoice. MSRP 33,625 (what should I hope to negotiate?

    Thank you very much for any advise. ;)
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,029

    Hello,

    Trying to take advantage of the 2016.5 Mazda CX-5 lease offers available (before Sept 30).
    Looking for 2016.5 CX-5 GT AWD with TECH package and I-Active package in NC 27516

    Wondering if I can negotiate current offer: (I understand payment would be different given the added packages)

    ZERO TO DRIVE LEASE-($279/Month), 36-Month Lease. $0 Down Payment, $0 Security Deposit, $0 1st Month's Payment, $0 due at Lease Signing. Excludes taxes, title and fees. Monthly payment includes a $595 Acquisition Fee. NOTE: ****We have excellent credit***

    What would be the MF and Residual? Dealer claims to be selling at 750 below invoice. MSRP 33,625 (what should I hope to negotiate?

    Thank you very much for any advise. ;)

    .00001 and 57% for 36/15.

    Yes, those offers are negotiable; use the "make model year" pull downs on the top of the page to link to the price tools.

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  • jkipsterjkipster Member Posts: 272
    Please provide the MF/Residuals for the 16.5 CX-5 GT Fwd for 10K a year for these intervals:
    24/30/36/39/42/48

    Thanks.
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,702
    jkipster said:

    Please provide the MF/Residuals for the 16.5 CX-5 GT Fwd for 10K a year for these intervals:
    24/30/36/39/42/48

    Thanks.

    36 months is the only term that gets the low .00001 MF, along with 59% residual
    24: .00200 and 80%
    30: .00120 and 72%
    39: .00025 and 56%
    42: .00035 and 55%
    48: .00070 and 48%

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  • jkipsterjkipster Member Posts: 272
    kyfdx said:

    jkipster said:

    Please provide the MF/Residuals for the 16.5 CX-5 GT Fwd for 10K a year for these intervals:
    24/30/36/39/42/48

    Thanks.

    36 months is the only term that gets the low .00001 MF, along with 59% residual
    24: .00200 and 80%
    30: .00120 and 72%
    39: .00025 and 56%
    42: .00035 and 55%
    48: .00070 and 48%
    Thanks. How do the AWD numbers look for the GT?
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    2010 G37S Sedan
    2013 G37xS Sedan
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    2023 Nissan Pathfinder Platinum 4WD
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,702
    jkipster said:

    kyfdx said:

    jkipster said:

    Please provide the MF/Residuals for the 16.5 CX-5 GT Fwd for 10K a year for these intervals:
    24/30/36/39/42/48

    Thanks.

    36 months is the only term that gets the low .00001 MF, along with 59% residual
    24: .00200 and 80%
    30: .00120 and 72%
    39: .00025 and 56%
    42: .00035 and 55%
    48: .00070 and 48%
    Thanks. How do the AWD numbers look for the GT?
    Residual is 1% higher from 36 months on up.. Same residual for shorter terms.

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  • jkipsterjkipster Member Posts: 272
    kyfdx said:
    Please provide the MF/Residuals for the 16.5 CX-5 GT Fwd for 10K a year for these intervals: 24/30/36/39/42/48 Thanks.
    36 months is the only term that gets the low .00001 MF, along with 59% residual 24: .00200 and 80% 30: .00120 and 72% 39: .00025 and 56% 42: .00035 and 55% 48: .00070 and 48%
    Thanks. How do the AWD numbers look for the GT?
    Residual is 1% higher from 36 months on up.. Same residual for shorter terms.
    Same money factors?
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    2010 G37S Sedan
    2013 G37xS Sedan
    2014 QX60
    2015 Q40
    2016 QX60
    2016 E350 Sedan
    2017 QX60
    2019 E450 Wagon
    2021 Sienna XSE AWD
    2022 Lexus RX350
    2022 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid Limited
    2023 Nissan Pathfinder Platinum 4WD
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,702
    jkipster said:


    kyfdx said:

    jkipster said:

    kyfdx said:

    jkipster said:

    Please provide the MF/Residuals for the 16.5 CX-5 GT Fwd for 10K a year for these intervals:
    24/30/36/39/42/48

    Thanks.

    36 months is the only term that gets the low .00001 MF, along with 59% residual
    24: .00200 and 80%
    30: .00120 and 72%
    39: .00025 and 56%
    42: .00035 and 55%
    48: .00070 and 48%
    Thanks. How do the AWD numbers look for the GT?
    Residual is 1% higher from 36 months on up.. Same residual for shorter terms.

    Same money factors?

    Yes

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  • alexu01905alexu01905 Member Posts: 2
    Can you please give me the residual and MF for 2016.5 Touring AWD with Bose Package in Boston. The lease structure is 36 Months/12K miles and 36 months/10K miles.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,702

    Can you please give me the residual and MF for 2016.5 Touring AWD with Bose Package in Boston. The lease structure is 36 Months/12K miles and 36 months/10K miles.

    .00001 MF and 60%/61% residual

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  • mplslexusmplslexus Member Posts: 18
    Hello, please let me know if this is a good deal. here is the lease worksheet attached. let me know if anything missing. anything could be better, like the price, etc.

    This is for a 2016.5 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring AWD with Tech package. & Soul Red paint added $300 charge. in Minneapolis, Minnesota

    36 month term. 10k miles a year. We had it run at $4,000 total out of pocket. to include the money down, all fees, tax title license, etc. being told this is $288/month with $4,000 a signing.



  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,029
    mplslexus said:

    Hello, please let me know if this is a good deal. here is the lease worksheet attached. let me know if anything missing. anything could be better, like the price, etc.

    This is for a 2016.5 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring AWD with Tech package. & Soul Red paint added $300 charge. in Minneapolis, Minnesota

    36 month term. 10k miles a year. We had it run at $4,000 total out of pocket. to include the money down, all fees, tax title license, etc. being told this is $288/month with $4,000 a signing.



    The tax amount looks wrong - doesn't MN tax the monthly payment?

    With the numbers you've given, and excluding the $4K, I get $345/mo before tax.

    And, I don't see the acquisition fee mentioned anywhere ...

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  • mplslexusmplslexus Member Posts: 18
    mplslexus said:

    Hello, please let me know if this is a good deal. here is the lease worksheet attached. let me know if anything missing. anything could be better, like the price, etc.

    This is for a 2016.5 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring AWD with Tech package. & Soul Red paint added $300 charge. in Minneapolis, Minnesota

    36 month term. 10k miles a year. We had it run at $4,000 total out of pocket. to include the money down, all fees, tax title license, etc. being told this is $288/month with $4,000 a signing.



    Michaell said:

    mplslexus said:

    Hello, please let me know if this is a good deal. here is the lease worksheet attached. let me know if anything missing. anything could be better, like the price, etc.

    This is for a 2016.5 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring AWD with Tech package. & Soul Red paint added $300 charge. in Minneapolis, Minnesota

    36 month term. 10k miles a year. We had it run at $4,000 total out of pocket. to include the money down, all fees, tax title license, etc. being told this is $288/month with $4,000 a signing.



    The tax amount looks wrong - doesn't MN tax the monthly payment?

    With the numbers you've given, and excluding the $4K, I get $345/mo before tax.

    And, I don't see the acquisition fee mentioned anywhere ...

    I'm confused. Are you saying without the $4k due at signing (so at Zero down?) we would be $345 a month? or?

    After reading about leases, I think we should just pay all the start up non taxed and put nothing else down, I'd like to know what that should be.

    I already emailed them back and asked as I do not see the "cap cost" nor "adjusted cap cost". not sure what the "price" we are paying for the car. their website says they give a $750 discount. off the MSRP.
  • mplslexusmplslexus Member Posts: 18
    I believe in MN we pay the tax upfront. but it's just for the portion leased??? not the total price of the car. so lets say if the cost of the lease is $14k over 36 months you pay tax on that up front - I think.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,029
    mplslexus said:

    I believe in MN we pay the tax upfront. but it's just for the portion leased??? not the total price of the car. so lets say if the cost of the lease is $14k over 36 months you pay tax on that up front - I think.

    OK, that makes more sense. A number of states tax the sum of the payments, and collects it up front.

    Yes, $345/mo is without the $4K cash - or however much is left after covering the up front taxes and fees.

    Yes, you want to pay the government fees up front, but if you have the option, roll the tax into the cap cost and pay it monthly. If something happens to the car during the lease, you won't have prepaid tax on a car you aren't driving.

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  • mplslexusmplslexus Member Posts: 18
    I just got another quote. not a lot of details but I think his money factor is high?

    With $4,000 down on a 36 month, 10,000 mile per year lease your payment would be $308.76 on that vehicle. We do have access to two of them so you do not have to wait for one to be shipped in. We also have one coming to my store at the same time as the store you found this incoming unit.

    MSRP: $32,225
    Discount: $750
    Sale Price: $31,475
    Lease payment $308.76
    Money Factor: .00051
    Residual: 19,355
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,029
    mplslexus said:

    I just got another quote. not a lot of details but I think his money factor is high?

    With $4,000 down on a 36 month, 10,000 mile per year lease your payment would be $308.76 on that vehicle. We do have access to two of them so you do not have to wait for one to be shipped in. We also have one coming to my store at the same time as the store you found this incoming unit.

    MSRP: $32,225
    Discount: $750
    Sale Price: $31,475
    Lease payment $308.76
    Money Factor: .00051
    Residual: 19,355

    Yes, Mazda dealers can mark up the MF by .00050.

    Is that a bigger discount from sticker than the first deal? Dealers often don't want to give the base MF and a big discount together.

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  • mplslexusmplslexus Member Posts: 18
    $750 off of $32,225 does not sound big. I'd like more. but bigger than the first quote had at $490. which was supposed to be $750 per their website

    And speaking of that, the first quote gal I got her to send me correct lease info. she admitted it was incomplete and not correct. which to me I was like why are you sending this to us then? anyhow

    Now the 1st quote is also $750 off.

    Here's the details:
    36months.
    12k miles (this will have to be fixed a I told her 10k miles per year) ugh
    Cap cost reduction $4,000
    Monthly pymt is $280.28
    Amount due at lease signing or delivery is $4,280 (I told her to use $4,000) looks like she has $4,000 cap cost reduction + first payment which is why $4,280 due at signing)

    Turn in fee at end of lease $300 (never had this ever on a lease before)

    $14,390.08 total cost of lease for 36 months

    Gross cap cost is $33,407.57
    The agreed value of the vehicle is $31,475
    adjusted cap cost $29,407.57
    Residual $19,335
    depreciation $10,072.57
    rent charge $17.51
    for a total 10,090.08
    Buy at end of lease $19,335 + $50 option fee (never had that before either)

    Agreed value is $31,475
    Sales tax $835.82
    Title, license and registration fees$426.75
    Acquisition fee $595
    dealer doc fee $75
    = Gross cap cost $33,407.57

    Total taxes and fees $3205.15


    So
    1) is this good? great? correct?
    2) what things should we pay at signing, and what should we roll into the lease? and what will that be due at signing and what will the monthly be?

    also, a bit of a problem. she now mentioned the car has 50 miles on it. says from a dealer transfer they did on it before we came along. and then she drove it. I told her we want a NEW car, with like 6-14 miles on it. so now we'd have to take another color. they have a white one everything the same with 9 miles on it.
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