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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,526
    mplslexus said:

    $750 off of $32,225 does not sound big. I'd like more. but bigger than the first quote had at $490. which was supposed to be $750 per their website

    And speaking of that, the first quote gal I got her to send me correct lease info. she admitted it was incomplete and not correct. which to me I was like why are you sending this to us then? anyhow

    Now the 1st quote is also $750 off.

    Here's the details:
    36months.
    12k miles (this will have to be fixed a I told her 10k miles per year) ugh
    Cap cost reduction $4,000
    Monthly pymt is $280.28
    Amount due at lease signing or delivery is $4,280 (I told her to use $4,000) looks like she has $4,000 cap cost reduction + first payment which is why $4,280 due at signing)

    Turn in fee at end of lease $300 (never had this ever on a lease before)

    $14,390.08 total cost of lease for 36 months

    Gross cap cost is $33,407.57
    The agreed value of the vehicle is $31,475
    adjusted cap cost $29,407.57
    Residual $19,335
    depreciation $10,072.57
    rent charge $17.51
    for a total 10,090.08
    Buy at end of lease $19,335 + $50 option fee (never had that before either)

    Agreed value is $31,475
    Sales tax $835.82
    Title, license and registration fees$426.75
    Acquisition fee $595
    dealer doc fee $75
    = Gross cap cost $33,407.57

    Total taxes and fees $3205.15


    So
    1) is this good? great? correct?
    2) what things should we pay at signing, and what should we roll into the lease? and what will that be due at signing and what will the monthly be?

    also, a bit of a problem. she now mentioned the car has 50 miles on it. says from a dealer transfer they did on it before we came along. and then she drove it. I told her we want a NEW car, with like 6-14 miles on it. so now we'd have to take another color. they have a white one everything the same with 9 miles on it.

    Disposition fees are on just about every lease now.
    Roll everything in... plus, keep your $4000. The interest rate is virtually zero, so take advantage of it.
    You are driving the car 30,000 miles. Not sure how 50 miles will make a difference.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,956
    kyfdx said:

    mplslexus said:

    $750 off of $32,225 does not sound big. I'd like more. but bigger than the first quote had at $490. which was supposed to be $750 per their website

    And speaking of that, the first quote gal I got her to send me correct lease info. she admitted it was incomplete and not correct. which to me I was like why are you sending this to us then? anyhow

    Now the 1st quote is also $750 off.

    Here's the details:
    36months.
    12k miles (this will have to be fixed a I told her 10k miles per year) ugh
    Cap cost reduction $4,000
    Monthly pymt is $280.28
    Amount due at lease signing or delivery is $4,280 (I told her to use $4,000) looks like she has $4,000 cap cost reduction + first payment which is why $4,280 due at signing)

    Turn in fee at end of lease $300 (never had this ever on a lease before)

    $14,390.08 total cost of lease for 36 months

    Gross cap cost is $33,407.57
    The agreed value of the vehicle is $31,475
    adjusted cap cost $29,407.57
    Residual $19,335
    depreciation $10,072.57
    rent charge $17.51
    for a total 10,090.08
    Buy at end of lease $19,335 + $50 option fee (never had that before either)

    Agreed value is $31,475
    Sales tax $835.82
    Title, license and registration fees$426.75
    Acquisition fee $595
    dealer doc fee $75
    = Gross cap cost $33,407.57

    Total taxes and fees $3205.15


    So
    1) is this good? great? correct?
    2) what things should we pay at signing, and what should we roll into the lease? and what will that be due at signing and what will the monthly be?

    also, a bit of a problem. she now mentioned the car has 50 miles on it. says from a dealer transfer they did on it before we came along. and then she drove it. I told her we want a NEW car, with like 6-14 miles on it. so now we'd have to take another color. they have a white one everything the same with 9 miles on it.

    Disposition fees are on just about every lease now.
    Roll everything in... plus, keep your $4000. The interest rate is virtually zero, so take advantage of it.
    You are driving the car 30,000 miles. Not sure how 50 miles will make a difference.
    +1 on the miles. I leased a new Jetta just over a month ago, and it had 41 miles on it when I took delivery.

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  • jkipsterjkipster Member Posts: 272
    Thanks to the mods for confirming the lease terms, I found the sweet spot for this lease that I just negotiated for a family member:

    2016.5 CX-5 GT Fwd with Tech in Soul Red
    30/10K
    MSRP $30,925
    Selling Price $28,453
    Residual $22,266 72%
    Money factor 0.00120
    Cap cost $29,048
    Adj. Cap Cost $28,736

    $750 loyalty rebate applied to:
    $312 CCR
    $438 Driveoffs

    Payment $277 + tax
    $0 out of pocket with Mazda's zero to drive covering the first month.
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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,956
    jkipster said:

    Thanks to the mods for confirming the lease terms, I found the sweet spot for this lease that I just negotiated for a family member:

    2016.5 CX-5 GT Fwd with Tech in Soul Red
    30/10K
    MSRP $30,925
    Selling Price $28,453
    Residual $22,266 72%
    Money factor 0.00120
    Cap cost $29,048
    Adj. Cap Cost $28,736

    $750 loyalty rebate applied to:
    $312 CCR
    $438 Driveoffs

    Payment $277 + tax
    $0 out of pocket with Mazda's zero to drive covering the first month.

    Congrats!

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  • andrew94566andrew94566 Member Posts: 6
    Looking for October numbers for Touring AWD. 36/12k. Northern California. Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,526

    Looking for October numbers for Touring AWD. 36/12k. Northern California. Thanks!

    Sorry, but we don't have the October Mazda programs, yet.

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  • mpaige915mpaige915 Member Posts: 2
    edited October 2016
    Hi there! Can you please tell me the money factor and residual value of a 2016.5 Mazda CX 5 Touring FWD in the Los Angeles area, assuming 10,000 miles/year on a 36-month lease? Many thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,526
    mpaige915 said:

    Hi there! Can you please tell me the money factor and residual value of a 2016.5 Mazda CX 5 Touring FWD in the Los Angeles area, assuming 10,000 miles/year on a 36-month lease? Many thanks!

    .00023 MF and 61% residual.
    $515 lease cash

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  • cstark27cstark27 Member Posts: 15
    Looking for MF/RV on a 30/10k in 67212. Thanks!

    2016.5 CX-5 Touring AWD
    2016.5 CX-5 Grand Touring AWD
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,956
    cstark27 said:

    Looking for MF/RV on a 30/10k in 67212. Thanks!

    2016.5 CX-5 Touring AWD
    2016.5 CX-5 Grand Touring AWD

    30/10? Those numbers are horrible....

    .00190 and 74% for either trim.

    36/10 numbers are much better: .00023 and 62%

    $515 lease cash.

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  • cstark27cstark27 Member Posts: 15
    edited October 2016
    Michaell said:

    cstark27 said:

    Looking for MF/RV on a 30/10k in 67212. Thanks!

    2016.5 CX-5 Touring AWD
    2016.5 CX-5 Grand Touring AWD

    30/10? Those numbers are horrible....

    .00190 and 74% for either trim.

    36/10 numbers are much better: .00023 and 62%

    $515 lease cash.
    Glad I asked! I was looking at another source which didn't end up being close.

    Is the $515 lease cash stackable with $750 loyalty lease?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,956
    cstark27 said:

    Michaell said:

    cstark27 said:

    Looking for MF/RV on a 30/10k in 67212. Thanks!

    2016.5 CX-5 Touring AWD
    2016.5 CX-5 Grand Touring AWD

    30/10? Those numbers are horrible....

    .00190 and 74% for either trim.

    36/10 numbers are much better: .00023 and 62%

    $515 lease cash.
    Glad I asked! I was looking at another source which didn't end up being close.

    Is the $515 lease cash stackable with $750 loyalty lease?
    The incentives should combine.

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  • zmaster69zmaster69 Member Posts: 7
    Is this a good deal?
    2016.5 CX 5 Sport FWD
    36/10 $0 drive off $276/month (tax included)
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,956
    zmaster69 said:

    Is this a good deal?
    2016.5 CX 5 Sport FWD
    36/10 $0 drive off $276/month (tax included)

    I get $277/mo, so the quote looks good.

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  • zmaster69zmaster69 Member Posts: 7
    Thanks for the reply but is this a good deal for CX 5 Sport FWD right now or is just average? Do you think I could get them to lower the price a little more? I was told the MF is .000325 I don't remember exactly
  • zmaster69zmaster69 Member Posts: 7
    Sorry!! forgot to quote
    Michaell said:

    zmaster69 said:

    Is this a good deal?
    2016.5 CX 5 Sport FWD
    36/10 $0 drive off $276/month (tax included)

    I get $277/mo, so the quote looks good.
    zmaster69 said:

    Thanks for the reply but is this a good deal for CX 5 Sport FWD right now or is just average? Do you think I could get them to lower the price a little more? I was told the MF is .000325 I don't remember exactly

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,956
    zmaster69 said:

    Sorry!! forgot to quote

    Michaell said:

    zmaster69 said:

    Is this a good deal?
    2016.5 CX 5 Sport FWD
    36/10 $0 drive off $276/month (tax included)

    I get $277/mo, so the quote looks good.
    zmaster69 said:

    Thanks for the reply but is this a good deal for CX 5 Sport FWD right now or is just average? Do you think I could get them to lower the price a little more? I was told the MF is .000325 I don't remember exactly

    We don't track selling prices - use the 'make / model / year' pull downs at the top of the page to link to the price tools. Ideally, you should be able to be the TMV price you get.

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  • rickzrickz Member Posts: 39
    Hello,

    Can you please provide MF and residuals for the FWD 2016.5 CX-5 Grand Touring in Tennessee for all available terms between 24 and 39 months?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,526
    rickz said:

    Hello,

    Can you please provide MF and residuals for the FWD 2016.5 CX-5 Grand Touring in Tennessee for all available terms between 24 and 39 months?

    15K/yr

    24: .00280 MF and 79%
    30: .00190 MF and 71%
    33: .00110 MF and 65%
    36: .00023 MF and 58%
    39: .00001 MF and 55%

    Payments will be lower, the farther down you go.

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  • rickzrickz Member Posts: 39
    Thank you! Sorry I forget to include mileage. Do you have them for 12k/yr?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,956
    rickz said:

    Thank you! Sorry I forget to include mileage. Do you have them for 12k/yr?

    Add 2% to all residual values for 12K

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  • chrisutpgchrisutpg Member Posts: 26
    Looking for MF and residual of a 2016.5 touring and grand touring in NJ for 36/12 and 36/15. Both AWD. Any help would be much appreciated!

    Thanks again in advanced this forum has help a bunch!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,526
    rickz said:

    Thank you! Sorry I forget to include mileage. Do you have them for 12k/yr?

    Add 2% for 12K/yr

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,956
    chrisutpg said:

    Looking for MF and residual of a 2016.5 touring and grand touring in NJ for 36/12 and 36/15. Both AWD. Any help would be much appreciated!

    Thanks again in advanced this forum has help a bunch!

    36/15 - .00023 and 59%

    $515 lease cash.

    Add 2% for 12k

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  • bobd21bobd21 Member Posts: 165
    What is the MF and Res % for 2016.5 CX-5 36 Mo 10K and also 12K for So CA. Thanks in advance.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,956
    bobd21 said:

    What is the MF and Res % for 2016.5 CX-5 36 Mo 10K and also 12K for So CA. Thanks in advance.

    What trim level? FWD or AWD?

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  • chowan1chowan1 Member Posts: 10
    Hi Can I have the numbers for AWD Touring for the following options in NYC?
    2 years/10k and 12k miles
    3 years/10k and 12k miles
    Thanks
  • bobd21bobd21 Member Posts: 165
    Michaell said:

    bobd21 said:

    What is the MF and Res % for 2016.5 CX-5 36 Mo 10K and also 12K for So CA. Thanks in advance.

    What trim level? FWD or AWD?

    Grand Touring FWD please.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,956
    chowan1 said:

    Hi Can I have the numbers for AWD Touring for the following options in NYC?
    2 years/10k and 12k miles
    3 years/10k and 12k miles
    Thanks

    .00280 and 82% 81%
    .00023 and 62% 62%

    $515 lease cash

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,956
    bobd21 said:

    Michaell said:

    bobd21 said:

    What is the MF and Res % for 2016.5 CX-5 36 Mo 10K and also 12K for So CA. Thanks in advance.

    What trim level? FWD or AWD?
    Grand Touring FWD please.
    .00023 and 61% 60%

    $515 lease cash

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  • chowan1chowan1 Member Posts: 10
    Michaell said:

    chowan1 said:

    Hi Can I have the numbers for AWD Touring for the following options in NYC?
    2 years/10k and 12k miles
    3 years/10k and 12k miles
    Thanks

    .00280 and 82% 81%
    .00023 and 62% 62%

    $515 lease cash
    Thanks! I noticed the MF in September was .00001. How big of a difference would .00022 be in terms of money?
    Also, what is leash cash? Is it something all dealerships must offer? Thanks again!
  • bobd21bobd21 Member Posts: 165
    Michaell said:

    bobd21 said:

    Michaell said:

    bobd21 said:

    What is the MF and Res % for 2016.5 CX-5 36 Mo 10K and also 12K for So CA. Thanks in advance.

    What trim level? FWD or AWD?
    Grand Touring FWD please.
    .00023 and 61% 60%

    $515 lease cash
    Thank you sir!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,526
    edited October 2016
    chowan1 said:

    Michaell said:

    chowan1 said:

    Hi Can I have the numbers for AWD Touring for the following options in NYC?
    2 years/10k and 12k miles
    3 years/10k and 12k miles
    Thanks

    .00280 and 82% 81%
    .00023 and 62% 62%

    $515 lease cash
    Thanks! I noticed the MF in September was .00001. How big of a difference would .00022 be in terms of money?
    Also, what is leash cash? Is it something all dealerships must offer? Thanks again!
    Lease cash is a dealer incentive. It should translate into a lower selling price.

    The difference between money factors would add about $10/mo., but you have to look at the deal in it's entirety. There is the lease cash, but the residual might have dropped, as well.

    Also, the 39 month term has .00001 MF, this month.

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  • mmendoza2mmendoza2 Member Posts: 193
    Good morning,

    May I please have the MF and residual percentage for a Grand Touring FWD in Florida for the following terms:


    36/10
    39/10
    42/10

    36/12
    39/12
    42/10

    36/15
    39/15
    42/15

    any lease cash?

    Thank you

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,526
    mmendoza2 said:

    Good morning,

    May I please have the MF and residual percentage for a Grand Touring FWD in Florida for the following terms:


    36/10
    39/10
    42/10

    36/12
    39/12
    42/10

    36/15
    39/15
    42/15

    any lease cash?

    Thank you

    15K/yr. Add 2% for 12K or 3% for 10K

    36: .00023 MF and 58% residual
    39: .00001 MF and 55% residual
    42: .00035 MF and 54% residual

    $515 lease cash

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  • mmendoza2mmendoza2 Member Posts: 193
    kyfdx said:

    mmendoza2 said:

    Good morning,

    May I please have the MF and residual percentage for a Grand Touring FWD in Florida for the following terms:


    36/10
    39/10
    42/10

    36/12
    39/12
    42/10

    36/15
    39/15
    42/15

    any lease cash?

    Thank you

    15K/yr. Add 2% for 12K or 3% for 10K

    36: .00023 MF and 58% residual
    39: .00001 MF and 55% residual
    42: .00035 MF and 54% residual

    $515 lease cash

    Thank You
  • jcw33nyjcw33ny Member Posts: 4
    Hi, How do you calc residual value? Off MSRP or negotiated price? Thanks
    Joe
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,956
    jcw33ny said:

    Hi, How do you calc residual value? Off MSRP or negotiated price? Thanks
    Joe

    The residual value is calculated against the MSRP - the bottom line number of the window sticker (including all options and destination charge).

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  • dmace1dmace1 Member Posts: 2
    May I please have the MF and residual percentage for a Grand Touring AWD in Chicago for 3 years 36K miles
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,956
    dmace1 said:

    May I please have the MF and residual percentage for a Grand Touring AWD in Chicago for 3 years 36K miles

    36/12 - .00023 and 61%

    $515 lease cash.

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  • dmace1dmace1 Member Posts: 2
    Michaell said:

    dmace1 said:

    May I please have the MF and residual percentage for a Grand Touring AWD in Chicago for 3 years 36K miles

    36/12 - .00023 and 61%

    $515 lease cash.
    Thanks. Do you know if a dealer can legally charge me a higher MF and/or a lower residual rate?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,956
    dmace1 said:


    Michaell said:

    dmace1 said:

    May I please have the MF and residual percentage for a Grand Touring AWD in Chicago for 3 years 36K miles

    36/12 - .00023 and 61%

    $515 lease cash.
    Thanks. Do you know if a dealer can legally charge me a higher MF and/or a lower residual rate?
    The dealer is not allowed to modify the residual, but they can mark up the MF as much as .00050

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  • chowan1chowan1 Member Posts: 10
    edited October 2016
    Hi! Went to a dealer in Long Island, NY last week and here's the quote offered for 2016.5 Touring AWD in silver with everything in bold rolled in. I was quoted $322 per month and all I pay are 1st month's payment and government fees at signing. Tax rate is 8.875%
    MSRP: $27,515
    Selling Price: $26,350
    Rebate: $515
    Price after rebate: $25,835
    Residual Value: $16.784.15
    Acquisition Fee $595
    Doc Fee $75
    Tire Fee $12.50
    Inspection Fee $10
    Taxes: $933.10
    Monthly (Base): $9,050.85 divided by 36 = $251.41
    Money Factor: $9.80 monthly

    Rent Charge: $352.89
    Monthly: $322 I get $306 when I did the math.

    I understand why we should roll the fees and taxes into the lease but is there also interest incurred on that if I rolled it in vs paying it up front? If so, how is that calculated? Thanks
  • eoseireeoseire Member Posts: 149
    Hi, can you provide the MF and Residual for the a 2016.5 CX-5 AWD Grand Touring in SF, CA?
    3 year/15000 miles please. Thank you!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,526
    chowan1 said:

    Hi! Went to a dealer in Long Island, NY last week and here's the quote offered for 2016.5 Touring AWD in silver with everything in bold rolled in. I was quoted $322 per month and all I pay are 1st month's payment and government fees at signing. Tax rate is 8.875%
    MSRP: $27,515
    Selling Price: $26,350
    Rebate: $515
    Price after rebate: $25,835
    Residual Value: $16.784.15
    Acquisition Fee $595
    Doc Fee $75
    Tire Fee $12.50
    Inspection Fee $10
    Taxes: $933.10
    Monthly (Base): $9,050.85 divided by 36 = $251.41
    Money Factor: $9.80 monthly

    Rent Charge: $352.89
    Monthly: $322 I get $306 when I did the math.

    I understand why we should roll the fees and taxes into the lease but is there also interest incurred on that if I rolled it in vs paying it up front? If so, how is that calculated? Thanks

    36/12, right?
    .00023 MF and 59% residual
    If I add in everything you listed, I also get $306/mo.
    Anything rolled into the lease is subject to "interest". That's where the money factor comes in. But, the equivalent interest rate is about one-half percent, so it's negligible. The finance charges on the entire car are only $9.80/mo.

    But, Mazda allows the dealer to markup the money factor by as much as .00050 (to a total of .00073, in this case). That might be why your calculations don't match.

    Either the money factor is marked up, or there are other costs rolled into the lease.
    Ask the dealer for the money factor and the adjusted CAP cost.
    The difference lies within those numbers.

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  • eoseireeoseire Member Posts: 149
    Sorry to repeat myself but I think my question may have been overlooked. Can you provide the MF and Residual for the a 2016.5 CX-5 AWD Grand Touring in SF, CA? 36 months/15K. Thank you.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,526
    eoseire said:

    Sorry to repeat myself but I think my question may have been overlooked. Can you provide the MF and Residual for the a 2016.5 CX-5 AWD Grand Touring in SF, CA? 36 months/15K. Thank you.

    .00023 MF and 59% residual.
    $515 lease cash.

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  • eoseireeoseire Member Posts: 149
    Thank you Kyfdx
  • shawy1269shawy1269 Member Posts: 6
    Can you provide the MF and Residual Value for a 2016.5 Mazda CX-5 Sport and Touring in South Florida for November? 36/12 and 39/12. Thank you.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,956
    shawy1269 said:

    Can you provide the MF and Residual Value for a 2016.5 Mazda CX-5 Sport and Touring in South Florida for November? 36/12 and 39/12. Thank you.

    Assuming FWD, .00023 and 57% or 58% for 36/12. .00001 and 56% or 57% for 39/12. $515 lease cash.

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