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.00136 MF and 64% residual
I get $487/mo.+tax. Not too far off.
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MSRP of 55,360 and negotiated selling price of 48,855 would suggest a discount of 6,515 with 1k of that coming from loyalty credit. Does anyone know of any October incentives/credits or is the dealer giving me a 10% discount? (5,515/55,360)
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I guess what I'm asking is, can I reverse engineer the discount on the list price assuming they are using October standard MF and RV, and see if it is a good discount?
What did the $2000 cover?
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(but, you'll have that bite on any lease)
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
MSRP 51,645
Sale price 45,100
MF .00137
residual 64%
$499 taxes NY included
What is the adjusted cap cost, assuming you are rolling in the taxes into the lease?
And, what is the tax rate?
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Could you help me back into some lease numbers?
NY Dealer is offering a deal for a demo.
$489 MO lease
36 mo
10k miles
2017 BMW X3 3.0 loaded
MSRP 58,245
Cap $2,921
$4,404 due at signing
What other information do I need to evaluate this deal?
Thank you.
What is the adjusted cap cost, and what does the $2921 cover?
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Here is more info on the NY 2017 BMW X3 3.0. Is there any wiggle room on this deal?
MSRP $58,245
Sales Price $52,900
10k miles/year
36 months
.00136 and 64%
Due at Drive off
First Payment: $489.00
+ Security: $0.00
+ Cap Red: $2,921.00
+ Tax on Cap Red: $215.42
+ Upfront Sales Tax: $1,298.30
+ Acquisition Fee: $925.00
+ DMV Fees: $290.00
+ Tire Fee: $12.50
+ Insp Fee: $10.00
+ Doc Fee: $75.00
+ Other Fees: $0.00
+ Tax on Fees: $73.75
= Cash on Delivery: $6,309.97
Alternatively, you can use some of it to make multiple security deposits, which would lower the MF. That money you get back at the end of the lease.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
I'd save the $2921 cap reduction and the associated taxes on same. Your payment would go to $557/mo but your cash out of pocket drops to $3173. That cap reduction cash would be lost if the car is stolen or totaled.
Alternatively, you can use some of it to make multiple security deposits, which would lower the MF. That money you get back at the end of the lease.
Michael,
Are MSDs allowed in NY? I will research but thought I read they were not allowed?
Thanks again.
Alternatively, you can use some of it to make multiple security deposits, which would lower the MF. That money you get back at the end of the lease.
Michael,
Are MSDs allowed in NY? I will research but thought I read they were not allowed?
Thanks again.
Ugh ... you are correct. Any chance you can get a similar deal from a dealer in either NJ or CT?
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If i wanted blind spot detection (that lil red triangle that shows up on mirror when there is a car there) Do i need the Driver assistance plus pkge (1,700) or would i need the driver assistance plus pkg and the ACC stop and go (1700+1,200).
I know i will also need navi and the driver assistance pkg as well.
Thanks
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Each security deposit is the monthly payment, rounded up to the next $50
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
adjust cap cost is 48,667
believe NY tax rate is 8.5% for leases
Therefore, the $499/mo looks pretty solid, if only the first payment is due at signing.
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This is what dealer quoted me initially
MSRP 53,345
sale price 46,645
MF .00137 residual 64%
$519 includes roughly 8.5% tax with 2,378.76 due at signing.
2,378 is
1st month 519
doc fee 399
bank fee 925
estimated dmv 329
tax 206
I then asked dealer to run a quote with everything rolled into lease and 7MSDs and comes back with:
MSRP 53,345
sale price 46,645
adjust cap cost 48,667
With these numbers I calc dep at 403 and interest at 72 for gross payment of 476
Net roughly 8.5% NY tax and I get a net payment of 517
Dealer quotes me at dep at 474 and interest at 74 for a net payment of 549
I think my calculations are correct, but just need someone to confirm.
My other question is when I roll fees into lease payments, do i just take my sale price and add doc, bank, tax on bank fees and doc fees into the adjusted cap cost (ie 46,645+399+925+206 = 48,175) Only reason I ask is that her adjusted cap cost is 48,667 for a difference of 492 (48,667-48,175). Estimated DMV fees can't be rolled into lease correct?
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First, you cannot do MSD in NY. Is this a dealer in NJ or CT?
Second, NY taxes the sum of the payments and collects the money up front. You can choose to pay the money up front at lease signing or add it to the cap cost.
Using the $53,345 MSRP and $48,667 cap cost, I get a payment of $516/mo. 64% and .00136 MF
If MSDs are in play, the MF drops to .00087 and the payment to $476/mo
Does the cap cost include tax or not?
And, have the dealer explain exactly how they arrived at their cap cost number.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but depreciation is calc as ((adjusted cap cost - (MSRP*residual %)
Using her monthly depreciation number of 474, total depreciation is 474*36 = 17,064. Residual value at 34,140. That means she is using an adjusted cap cost of 51,204 correct? Which is different then the cap cost quoted at 48,667
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Specifically looking at 36mo 10K which was 64% residual, .00136MF and $1,000 option credit in October.
Thank You
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Do dealers have any other way to make that up or are they resigned to possibly lower sales due to lack of incentives?
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