Project Cars--You Get to Vote on "Hold 'em or Fold 'em"

stickguy

tjc78 said:

Just realized that the CRX needs A/C work. It just became a $5,000 car. Steep

roll down the windows and open the roof. that's free. I have no need for AC on something like this.

ab348

fintail said:

I think the Town Car is the bargain there, if it is as claimed. I notice the original window sticker lists delivery to a local dealer, a good sign.

I agree. You should buy it! Haul your entire hockey team to games!!

Mr_Shiftright

tjc78 said:

Just realized that the CRX needs A/C work. It just became a $5,000 car. Steep

It's Seattle. You don't need AC--but you do need windshield wipers.

tjc78

I require AC on anything I drive!

It is 80 today, I used it in my car and it’s on in my house! 

berri

Oh, come summer you'll need AC more than you think. The climate has gotten hotter there.

stickguy

today? I opened the windows in the house to get fresh air. It was wonderful. Window down and moonroof open in the car.

was almost warm enough to dig out a pair of shorts! But I did not bother.

berri

You just guaranteed yourself a late snow or big Thunderstorm Stick

tjc78

It’s partly because of allergies too, pollen is starting up. We all are bothered by it to an extent.

stickguy

It bothers me because every day my wife comes home from work with her car covered in it.

fintail

Assuming it has a split front bench, you could cram 2 lines in it, and all the gear in the trunk no doubt.

Regarding AC, it may not be needed in Seattle compared to Atlanta or Las Vegas, but I swear it is hotter here in the summer than when I was a kid, and you'll still sweat a bit without it.

ab348 said:

I agree. You should buy it! Haul your entire hockey team to games!!

tjc78

Some people need air more than others...I just hate to be hot.

I remember when I had the beater 79 Continental. When I got it the first thing I got fixed was the AC. It was rotted, smoked, had zero oil pressure at hot idle.... BUT it threw 30 degree air from the vents that would frost over if the windows were cracked on a humid day. 4.5 lbs of R12 Freon, it would have cooled a small house.

sda

tjc78 said:

Some people need air more than others...I just hate to be hot.

I remember when I had the beater 79 Continental. When I got it the first thing I got fixed was the AC. It was rotted, smoked, had zero oil pressure at hot idle.... BUT it threw 30 degree air from the vents that would frost over if the windows were cracked on a humid day. 4.5 lbs of R12 Freon, it would have cooled a small house.

I did the same when I was fixing up my 70 DeVille convertible. A couple of cans of R12 and frigid air restored. That was when R12 was cheap and not yet commonly known that it was harmful to the ozone. As it made little difference to the poor gas mileage the Caddy got, AC with the top down was icing on the cake.

kyfdx

Bought my first car in 1976. Didn’t get one with A/C until 1990

fintail

1st page CL FSBO:

" it will last you many months" - honesty

Have fun

ToyotaTax

The difference between the red Si and this might be more than 3K

Go broke in style

"otherwise I'll keep it" - I suspect you are correct

Not a Syncro but still dear, somewhere around here there's a monied just past middle aged outdoors enthusiast who might be tempted

Mr_Shiftright

RE: '81 Rolls --"3rd owner's health forces prompt sale" -- heart attack after last repair bill, I'd guess.

RE: '90 Volksbaru -- they might get that price if it's really well-equipped and ready to roll. Small RV camping is a big deal right now, especially with Vanagons. They caravan in large groups and party.

RE: '82 Porsche ---GEEZ, this deal is so "iffy" on many levels. Is it a "real" slantnose? Where's the engine? Where's the transmission? The owner never, ever researched the car's origins? Really?

ab348

kyfdx said:

Bought my first car in 1976. Didn’t get one with A/C until 1990

Rank amateur. I bought my first car in 1981. First car with A/C was in 2003.

Michaell

ab348 said:

kyfdx said:

Bought my first car in 1976. Didn’t get one with A/C until 1990

Rank amateur. I bought my first car in 1981. First car with A/C was in 2003. E

Yeah, but you live near the ocean.

My folks bought their first car in the late 1950's; first car with AC was the '83 they bought used in the mid 80's.

They too live near the ocean

fintail

I dealt with no AC in the fintail for years, but when it came time to get a car made after I was born, I wanted AC. The prior owner of the W126 had the system updated, so it worked fine - sometimes not a strong point of those cars. One can manage here without AC, but if they are a native, they probably think anything above 85 is a fiery hellscape, and will want it.

kyfdx

ab348 said:

kyfdx said:

Bought my first car in 1976. Didn’t get one with A/C until 1990

Rank amateur. I bought my first car in 1981. First car with A/C was in 2003.

+ Canada...

steine13

Interesting set of CL ads. Makes me jealous here in Rustville, MI.

Regarding the Westy.
Steiner's law of used cars states that "you do not buy any model where a named engine swap exists." Just the fact that people know what you mean by "Subaru Engine Conversion" pretty much is all you need to know. Of course, these are not really used cars, they are people's toys and probably third vehicles.

The exception to the above Law is the LS1 swap.
That's different.

The CRX, if as nice as it looks, is a deal.
Try finding better.

xwesx

fintail said:

1st page CL FSBO:

" it will last you many months" - honesty

Over 300,000 miles?! That car looks fantastic for that mileage! And, "many months" would save most people a bundle versus buying even the cheapest new car.

texases

I’d pass on that CRX HF. That’s the high mpg (low fun) version. I’d much rather have the Si. 

jpp75

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2005-bentley-continental-gt-13/

Of particular interest: "This Continental is offered with printouts of dealer service records totaling just under $54k"

xwesx

That's insane. Some people have waaaaay more money than sense.

explorerx4

@jpp75,
You had to send me down the BAT rabbit hole.
That 88 TBird Turbo Coupe caught my eye.
Luckily, an auto trans and bid way up.
Could have been a great way go 'back in the day'.
I didn't realize the auction was just about to end, but it sold for 10,650.
Yes, I went back down the rabbit hole.

bhill2

jpp75 said:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2005-bentley-continental-gt-13/

Of particular interest: "This Continental is offered with printouts of dealer service records totaling just under $54k"

87k miles, $54k in service receipts. Hmmm, must have skipped some of the recommended maintenance.

andres3

The Neon's AC failed in the Summer, at about mile 36,100, I'm not joking. It was a mandatory decision to fix it immediately.

Mr_Shiftright

bhill2 said:

jpp75 said:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2005-bentley-continental-gt-13/

Of particular interest: "This Continental is offered with printouts of dealer service records totaling just under $54k"

87k miles, $54k in service receipts. Hmmm, must have skipped some of the recommended maintenance.

Oh, they got a good one!

jpp75

explorerx4 said:

@jpp75,
You had to send me down the BAT rabbit hole.
That 88 TBird Turbo Coupe caught my eye.
Luckily, an auto trans and bid way up.
Could have been a great way go 'back in the day'.
I didn't realize the auction was just about to end, but it sold for 10,650.
Yes, I went back down the rabbit hole.

I noticed the 88 TBird as well in my venture down the rabbit hole. It's the car I would have bought 35 years ago, but with a manual.

Mr_Shiftright

I saw one of those last year. It was black and black and had been lowered, and obviously had a sport exhaust and different wheels. It looked really appealing, I must say, in that configuration.

texases

That era Tbird can look quite nice:


Or not so nice:

explorerx4

My 83 Turbo Coupe was similar to the not so nice one, and I also upgraded to those same Mustang rims. It was black with a red interior like the better looking one.

fintail

Busy first page of CL FSBO:

Lotsa courage parking this in the damp

Rare these days

Wut

Fast bird

I assume the JDM ones are less valuable than NA spec cars

Nice color

Skirted

Fill bucket with cash, empty into a pile, throw match

Looks pristine

The market ran out of steam

80s Nissan plush

The cult will approve

Kind of cool

Tin top

Mr_Shiftright

'79 Fiat 124 --this might be a SEAT, as it has the "5-speed manuel" transmission

'76 Mercury Wagon -- a text book case of "rare" not meaning valuable. (Rule of Thumb: "It has to be rare, AND someone has to care"). OK, I guess but not at this price.

'66 Valiant -- I wonder if Jesus goes with the car? Couldn't hurt. Great salt car!

'93 Supra -- RHD always takes a big hit in the USA unless the car was never offered LHD, like on an MG TC. You have to figure 30-50% discount, depending on the car.

'95 Range Rover -- how about free? Donate it to a charity you hate. Or to the Naval Bombing Range in Nevada. They need targets.

'67 MB 250SL --coupla problems here--the 250SL is the least valuable of the trio, this is a Euro spec car, tires are wrong size, no engine pix. Might be okay at the price. It will need close scrutiny, especially for rust repair, non-original body panels, prior collision damage.

'66 VW Pickup -- poorly repainted rig from Poland with engine transplant and dog kennel interior. Such a bargain!

'90 Burb -- I like old Suburbans. Something of a legend and even the beat-up ones pull some strong money. Shiftright Stamp of Approval on this one.

'87 Samurai -- doesn't inspire confidence. I dunno?

ab348

I like the Suburban too but the stripes make my OCD kick in, and would have to go.

fintail

Funny thing, the brash strips are what do it for me on that rig. That would have been a pretty cool thing back in the day.

texases

What'll that Burb do, 12 mpg, maybe?

That Valiant - how to make a dumpy car look even dumpier, with the skirts...

tjc78

Colony Park is kinda cool, but seriously overpriced.

At first I thought it didn't have A/C but realized it has auto-temp. That has to be rare without rear defrost.

texases

tjc78 said:

Colony Park is kinda cool, but seriously overpriced.

At first I thought it didn't have A/C but realized it has auto-temp. That has to be rare without rear defrost.

Ah-ha! THAT's why it's worth so much!

qbrozen

texases said:

What'll that Burb do, 12 mpg, maybe?

That Valiant - how to make a dumpy car look even dumpier, with the skirts...

With the lift kit and oversized tires, I'm going to guess 8-9 mpg.

Mr_Shiftright

Yes but a 'Burb holds 7 or 8, so mpg/per person is actually really good!

texases

Kind of like a 747: 0.2 mpg x 300 people = 60 mpg for each person!

jpp75

qbrozen said:

texases said:

What'll that Burb do, 12 mpg, maybe?

That Valiant - how to make a dumpy car look even dumpier, with the skirts...

With the lift kit and oversized tires, I'm going to guess 8-9 mpg.

Probably still better than the Colony Park would get.

Mr_Shiftright

I used to refuel heavy tanks in the Army. They did their calculations is GPM--gallons per mile! I found them rather lacking in acceleration and with too much interior noise.

qbrozen

Mr_Shiftright said:

I used to refuel heavy tanks in the Army. They did their calculations is GPM--gallons per mile! I found them rather lacking in acceleration and with too much interior noise.

Don’t forget the harsh suspension and “RFTs”

Mr_Shiftright

Some great road rage remedies, though.

omarman

Edmunds made a list of 10 remedies to prevent road rage.

Tip #8: While it's upsetting when a stranger is rude or cuts in line in a restaurant or store, most folks wouldn't lose their cool and become abusive as a result...So when another driver acts like a jerk, respond as though you're in a restaurant. And we don't mean Chuck E. Cheese's.
Lol! Whoever wrote that has definitely been to Chuck E. Cheese!

fintail

First page CL FSBO:

Low depreciation

Definitely of a certain point in time

Another cool squarebody

Project car hell?

Maybe a rare configuration

Uncommon to find one this clean

xwesx

Argh. I want that F250.

tjc78

I like that Blazer (without those stripes of course)