VW TDI Settlement - buying a TDI now

xwesx

kyfdx said:

@xwesx I'll consider that, but the dealership is a good 90 minutes from me. That's a long way for lunch, even with an interesting conversationalist, such as yourself. I would have been happy to run you up there, if you had needed me, though.

Hope everything works out.

True, but I will have my own wheels, too, so we can meet somewhere in the middle!

henryn

For anyone in the Houston area, here's one for you:

http://houston.craigslist.org/ctd/5696169263.html

2013 Volkswagen Golf TDI 4dr Hatchback 6A w/ Tech Package $13,000 102k miles

This one has high mileage, but all the extras: Dynaudio, nav, sunroof, auto

The buyback calculator comes up with $17,993. At $13k asking, plus Texas sales tax at 6.25%, and $300 for license / plates /doc fees, your OTD would be $14,112, leaving you a net of $3,880.

Offer him $13,500 OTD and your net becomes $4,493.

Hell, I'm tempted to buy another one. But I'm afraid I might look a little silly with this thing parked in the driveway for the next 3 or 4 months.

peoriavwguy

So what was the final verdict on a rebuilt title? I can get a great deal on one with a rebuilt title from a dealer. The rebuilt title was issued on 9/11/15, so it was a rebuilt title on the 9/18/15, but was already back on the road and not purchased from a junkyard after the 9/8 date. I should be good to go right? Or not worth the risk? Thanks

kyfdx

I don't know, but any title issues would worry me.

You have to remember.. worst case is you will own this car.

kyfdx

xwesx said:

kyfdx said:

@xwesx I'll consider that, but the dealership is a good 90 minutes from me. That's a long way for lunch, even with an interesting conversationalist, such as yourself. I would have been happy to run you up there, if you had needed me, though.

Hope everything works out.

True, but I will have my own wheels, too, so we can meet somewhere in the middle!

Sure... just figured you would be headed North from there. If you are coming down towards Dayton to catch I-70 to I-74, I would be happy to meet up, assuming my wife doesn't have anything planned for me, that day.

xwesx

kyfdx said:

Sure... just figured you would be headed North from there. If you are coming down towards Dayton to catch I-70 to I-74, I would be happy to meet up, assuming my wife doesn't have anything planned for me, that day.

A route that helps me avoid Chicago? I'm all over it! LOL

We can work out details via messaging; I missed an opportunity to meet Stever back in 2009 (when he was in Boise) due to a gastrointestinal bug my family had while traveling, and we still haven't managed to meet up. What is an hour one way or another on a ~4,000 mile trip?

kyfdx

In a diesel.. about three bucks.. lol

corvette

peoriavwguy said:

So what was the final verdict on a rebuilt title? I can get a great deal on one with a rebuilt title from a dealer. The rebuilt title was issued on 9/11/15, so it was a rebuilt title on the 9/18/15, but was already back on the road and not purchased from a junkyard after the 9/8 date. I should be good to go right? Or not worth the risk? Thanks

I don't think it will be eligible. I think the idea is that once the car is salvage/junk/rebuilt, it cuts off the responsibility of the manufacturer for warranties, recalls, service campaigns, etc., since the car "should" have gone to the recycler.

xwesx

corvette said:

peoriavwguy said:

So what was the final verdict on a rebuilt title? I can get a great deal on one with a rebuilt title from a dealer. The rebuilt title was issued on 9/11/15, so it was a rebuilt title on the 9/18/15, but was already back on the road and not purchased from a junkyard after the 9/8 date. I should be good to go right? Or not worth the risk? Thanks

I don't think it will be eligible. I think the idea is that once the car is salvage/junk/rebuilt, it cuts off the responsibility of the manufacturer for warranties, recalls, service campaigns, etc., since the car "should" have gone to the recycler.

That said, the final verdict is still out, because the buybacks haven't started happening yet. Personally, I think the language states with clarity that the car you're considering is eligible. However, the risk of rejection is greater than if it had a clean title. If you can get it for a "great deal," though, then buy it if you want to take that risk. The worst that can happen is not getting the buyback, and you continue to own a nice car.

corvette

kyfdx, that JSW in Hoptown is dangerously close to where my folks live...

kyfdx

corvette said:

kyfdx, that JSW in Hoptown is dangerously close to where my folks live...

Heard that. Even for me, I can make that trip, down and back in a single day. It's a little far to just go look at it, though (like I did on the car in Indianapolis). Very tempting.

Maybe you should send the folks on a scouting trip?

fintail

Lucky you got the blessing so easily from the better half.

I have a feeling you won't want to let it go....

xwesx said:

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So, yeah, I'm all in on this. I just hope I have the resolve to let it go when the time comes (and that my wife will no longer be anti-diesel)....

corvette

kyfdx said:

It's a little far to just go look at it, though (like I did on the car in Indianapolis). Very tempting.

If I'm buying it to sell back to VW in a couple of months, I don't need to look at the car (so long as it runs), just need to see the Carfax to make sure it's not a salvage.

kyfdx

corvette said:

kyfdx said:

It's a little far to just go look at it, though (like I did on the car in Indianapolis). Very tempting.

If I'm buying it to sell back to VW in a couple of months, I don't need to look at the car (so long as it runs), just need to see the Carfax to make sure it's not a salvage.

Yeah..that one had the CARFAX link, right on the website. Looks good.

I like the safety aspect (from a money standpoint) of making sure the value is there. In case, everything falls through, and I want to ditch it.

kyfdx

Seattle area.. $22K (buyout minus half mod), $17K asking

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/668782544/overview/

stickguy

and we got a Seattle-ite just waiting to snag one!

28firefighter

I spoke with them this weekend. They are completely inflexible on price, have done no service on it in three months on its lot and it's up near Canada. After tax and everything it's not worth it (for me). 

nyccarguy

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/674197701/overview/

2011 A3 TDI with 69K miles. Private seller. Asking $11,500

Could this be correct? $3,366 in restitution resulting in a $22,091 Buy Back? A potential $9,860 "profit" after $11,500 + $730.25 sales tax?

kyfdx

nyccarguy said:

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/674197701/overview/

2011 A3 TDI with 69K miles. Private seller. Asking $11,500

Could this be correct? $3,366 in restitution resulting in a $22,091 Buy Back? A potential $9,860 "profit" after $11,500 + $730.25 sales tax?

Your calculations are correct.

I'd run a CARFAX.

qbrozen

Something is wrong there. I can't find a 2011 diesel in the manheim app, but even a gas version is worth way more than that asking price.

kyfdx

qbrozen said:

Something is wrong there. I can't find a 2011 diesel in the manheim app, but even a gas version is worth way more than that asking price.

The A3 TDI is available from 2010-2013, in that body style. Lots of 2011 models out there.

It would be a great deal, if its all on the up and up.. Nice options on that one, and low miles. Doesn't pass the smell test.

nyccarguy

Don't worry. I'm watching this TDI thing from the sidelines. I agree it's too cheap. I saw a Red S-Line A3 TDI with 56K miles at a Kia dealer in Copaige, NY (Long Island) with a $17K asking price. Then went to the dealer's website and it's not listed.

kyfdx

nyccarguy said:

Don't worry. I'm watching this TDI thing from the sidelines. I agree it's too cheap. I saw a Red S-Line A3 TDI with 56K miles at a Kia dealer in Copaige, NY (Long Island) with a $17K asking price. Then went to the dealer's website and it's not listed.

All A3 TDI are S-Line. The two trims are Premium and Premium Plus.

28firefighter

Deal pending!

2013 A3 TDI Premium Plus with 47k Miles
Blue over Black Leather interior with suede inserts
Titanium Sport Package
Bose
Moonroof

Buyback right around $29,2 (buyback plus 50% restitution) and after tax and fees, I'll clear $5200.

It is a bit more upfront than I wanted to spend, but a super cool looking car and I make what I wanted!

kyfdx

28firefighter said:

Deal pending!

2013 A3 TDI Premium Plus with 47k Miles
Blue over Black Leather interior with suede inserts
Titanium Sport Package
Bose
Moonroof

Buyback right around $29,2 (buyback plus 50% restitution) and after tax and fees, I'll clear $5200.

It is a bit more upfront than I wanted to spend, but a super cool looking car and I make what I wanted!

Wow... except for that one, and the one that @nyccarguy linked, I never find units with those options.

Sounds like a nice ride.

nyccarguy

28firefighter said:

Deal pending!

2013 A3 TDI Premium Plus with 47k Miles
Blue over Black Leather interior with suede inserts
Titanium Sport Package
Bose
Moonroof

Buyback right around $29,2 (buyback plus 50% restitution) and after tax and fees, I'll clear $5200.

It is a bit more upfront than I wanted to spend, but a super cool looking car and I make what I wanted!

Nice! Make sure to properly register your punch with your local CCBA office. Good luck!

andres3

xwesx said:

corvette said:

peoriavwguy said:

So what was the final verdict on a rebuilt title? I can get a great deal on one with a rebuilt title from a dealer. The rebuilt title was issued on 9/11/15, so it was a rebuilt title on the 9/18/15, but was already back on the road and not purchased from a junkyard after the 9/8 date. I should be good to go right? Or not worth the risk? Thanks

I don't think it will be eligible. I think the idea is that once the car is salvage/junk/rebuilt, it cuts off the responsibility of the manufacturer for warranties, recalls, service campaigns, etc., since the car "should" have gone to the recycler.

That said, the final verdict is still out, because the buybacks haven't started happening yet. Personally, I think the language states with clarity that the car you're considering is eligible. However, the risk of rejection is greater than if it had a clean title. If you can get it for a "great deal," though, then buy it if you want to take that risk. The worst that can happen is not getting the buyback, and you continue to own a nice car.

I'd be careful calling a salvaged car a "nice" car.

28firefighter

nyccarguy said:

28firefighter said:

Deal pending!

2013 A3 TDI Premium Plus with 47k Miles
Blue over Black Leather interior with suede inserts
Titanium Sport Package
Bose
Moonroof

Buyback right around $29,2 (buyback plus 50% restitution) and after tax and fees, I'll clear $5200.

It is a bit more upfront than I wanted to spend, but a super cool looking car and I make what I wanted!

Nice! Make sure to properly register your punch with your local CCBA office. Good luck!

Of course!

Thanks for the well wishes guys.

xwesx

andres3 said:

I'd be careful calling a salvaged car a "nice" car.

LOL; don't knock it 'till you try it. As with everything, caveat emptor.

xwesx

@28firefighter , congrats! Link to the ad?

28firefighter

I'll post it once I have a deposit down. 

Right now trying to get back to Seattle. Stuck in Denver due to a maintenance issue with my plane. 

xwesx

28firefighter said:

I'll post it once I have a deposit down. 

Right now trying to get back to Seattle. Stuck in Denver due to a maintenance issue with my plane. 

Hah! Smart man. I'd rather be stuck in Denver because of a maintenance issue than stuck in the air with one....

It is a handsome car, and relatively local for you.... That's a fine score, there!

Michaell

28firefighter said:

I'll post it once I have a deposit down. 

Right now trying to get back to Seattle. Stuck in Denver due to a maintenance issue with my plane. 

There's an Elways steakhouse in one of the terminals, depending on how much time you have...

28firefighter

Michaell said:

I'll post it once I have a deposit down. 

Right now trying to get back to Seattle. Stuck in Denver due to a maintenance issue with my plane. 

There's an Elways steakhouse in one of the terminals, depending on how much time you have...

I almost went. United brought in another plane and delayed another instead so I'm finally headed home. 

Michaell

28firefighter said:

Michaell said:

28firefighter said:

I'll post it once I have a deposit down. 

Right now trying to get back to Seattle. Stuck in Denver due to a maintenance issue with my plane. 

There's an Elways steakhouse in one of the terminals, depending on how much time you have...

I almost went. United brought in another plane and delayed another instead so I'm finally headed home. 

Good deal.

andres3

All you recent TDI buyers need to update your signature lines with the new TDI model; especially since it might not last for long.

qbrozen

Already ahead of ya.

28firefighter

Deposit is down on the TDI - I would have bought today but Ally delayed the transfer to my checking account. Here it is:

http://www.autoconnectionseast.net/3865/2013-Audi-A3-2.0-TDI-Clean-Diesel-with-S-tronic

When all is said and done, I'll be into it for about $23,7 and Audi will buy it back in October for $29,2. I'm hoping to convince my wife to keep it after her Escape lease is up instead of turning it right back in again.

Car is a local car, all service including the DSG service is up to date from one Audi dealer. Drove it 20 miles and it was tight as can be - no rattles, pulling or anything else. Looks as good in person as it does in the photos. Better, actually.

It has the following options - basically everything except Nav.
Panoramic Moonroof
Bose
Titanium Sport Package
Cold weather package
Park assist

Maybe I should have picked a car I liked less to flip...

andres3

28firefighter said:

Deposit is down on the TDI - I would have bought today but Ally delayed the transfer to my checking account. Here it is:

http://www.autoconnectionseast.net/3865/2013-Audi-A3-2.0-TDI-Clean-Diesel-with-S-tronic

When all is said and done, I'll be into it for about $23,7 and Audi will buy it back in October for $29,2. I'm hoping to convince my wife to keep it after her Escape lease is up instead of turning it right back in again.

Car is a local car, all service including the DSG service is up to date from one Audi dealer. Drove it 20 miles and it was tight as can be - no rattles, pulling or anything else. Looks as good in person as it does in the photos. Better, actually.

It has the following options - basically everything except Nav.
Panoramic Moonroof
Bose
Titanium Sport Package
Cold weather package
Park assist

Maybe I should have picked a car I liked less to flip...

HAVING owned a Sportback A3 previously, rattles just aren't going to happen, at least not for one built in Germany and not in the first 8 years or 106,000 miles. Mine was blue too. The only way I've experienced a rare occurrence of a rattle in an Audi was after one having been in an accident, and even then it was rare; too rare to isolate or attempt to fix.

stickguy

sharp looking. I just still want more sidewall!

I have been scarred for life by the bombed out roads in the NE. Like driving on the moon, and they never fix them (where all my taxes go is a mystery)

28firefighter

The roads here aren't as bad, but I remember what Philly was like and what Pittsburgh was like during school. No Bueno.

qbrozen

Congrats on the buy

corvette

28firefighter said:

The roads here aren't as bad, but I remember what Philly was like and what Pittsburgh was like during school. No Bueno.

I can confirm there aren't many potholes in Washington. The texture of a lot of the interstates seemed a little coarse--the MKZ was almost as loud as my parents' Honda Element when it had the crappy OE tires.

I don't remember Pittsburgh being all that bad, but I drove the Denali with the plush air suspension there, so I probably wouldn't have noticed. Haven't been to Philly since I was a child.

Love the color on the A3, it looks sharp!

stickguy

philly/Jersey are just horrible. it is so rare to get on a smooth freshly paved road that it shocks you.

kyfdx

That is really nice!

fintail

Cool unusual color on that A3. It was located just a few miles from me.

nyccarguy

@28firefighter - Mazel-Tov! That A3 is gorgeous! Love the color & those wheels! Good work!

28firefighter

@fintail definitely a unique place. Not your typical BHPH type of lot - some really nice high end inventory. Their staff is responsible for acquiring and selling their own inventory, which I have not encountered previously.

Asking prices can be a little out of whack depending on which sales guy owns the car - but they seem to be a reasonable bunch.

fintail

I've never stopped to look there, but I have noticed it. Kind of oddly situated too - near other dealers, but kind of in a strip mall. Cool that it worked out for you. Probably a pretty rare car in that color and spec. It might be hard to let it go

28firefighter said:

@fintail definitely a unique place. Not your typical BHPH type of lot - some really nice high end inventory. Their staff is responsible for acquiring and selling their own inventory, which I have not encountered previously.

Asking prices can be a little out of whack depending on which sales guy owns the car - but they seem to be a reasonable bunch.

28firefighter

fintail said:

I've never stopped to look there, but I have noticed it. Kind of oddly situated too - near other dealers, but kind of in a strip mall. Cool that it worked out for you. Probably a pretty rare car in that color and spec. It might be hard to let it go

Probably true. I haven't seen many other Titanium package TDIs floating around.

Not to worry, my wife will see to it that it is let go as soon as possible.