My dealer is showing me a residual of 57.386% on a Limited Platinum AWD at 36/12K
MSRP: $48,897 Sale Price: $44,764 Tax and Title Fees: $234 Acquisition: $650 Gross Cap: $47,084 Neg Equity: $1670 MF: .00072
Due at Signing: $2579 (includes neg equity, first payment, and taxes) $568 a month
Asking for adjusted cap now (maybe gross cap?)...
Does this look right? The residual is weird as it's a demo with 3K miles on it (the owner has been driving it) and that impacts the residual. My question is, does this seem like a fair deal?
Thanks!
Normal residual would be 59%. It has to be adjusted down, to account for the current mileage. That basically adds $790 to your depreciation. Your price would need to be at least $790 less than a brand new one, just to break even. Of course, since it's a demo, you want to do better than that.
Normal residual would be 59%. It has to be adjusted down, to account for the current mileage. That basically adds $790 to your depreciation. Your price would need to be at least $790 less than a brand new one, just to break even. Of course, since it's a demo, you want to do better than that.
What state and tax rate?
MI with 6% tax.
The sales price is $4133 off MSRP. It was $3133 but I negotiated an additional thousand due to the mileage. It's an 8.4% discount total.
Normal residual would be 59%. It has to be adjusted down, to account for the current mileage. That basically adds $790 to your depreciation. Your price would need to be at least $790 less than a brand new one, just to break even. Of course, since it's a demo, you want to do better than that.
What state and tax rate?
MI with 6% tax.
The sales price is $4133 off MSRP. It was $3133 but I negotiated an additional thousand due to the mileage. It's an 8.4% discount total.
Yeah.. the adjusted CAP cost would help. Looks like the acquisition fee is rolled in, but the rest of it would be part of the upfront money.
Adding in the acquisition fee, I only get $517/mo.+tax or $548/mo, not $568. Maybe they added GAP, or some garbage fee?
It seems their math is off, showing me a payment of $568 a month, and their Cap is higher at $47,084...
Seems like you are guessing as to which fees are capitalized, and which are paid upfront. Also, there will be tax on the negative equity. In your first example, the negative equity and the acquisition fee are added to the sale price to get the Gross CAP, but the $234 in fees is not.
You need to get the exact numbers from the dealership. Your calculations totally disregard the money you are paying upfront, and how it's allocated.
So, the vehicle I was pricing out with them isn't available...
So, I moved to a limited. Negotiated to 6.2% off MSRP. They're claiming it's $500 below invoice but I doubt that... Using the same MF and 12K miles I calculated the payment within $1 of their calculation. I'm at $506 a month with $0 down. Just first month and my negative equity payoff. I feel like it's a fair deal.
I know this is a weird question to ask but are you able to provide MF and RV for a 2017 Highlander AWD Limited Platinum for 12k miles, 36 months, in NJ but for the following months (I know they're dated)...
April 2017 May 2017 June 2017 July 2017
I'm trying to price out what the car will [roughly] cost during the same time period of 2018.
I know this is a weird question to ask but are you able to provide MF and RV for a 2017 Highlander AWD Limited Platinum for 12k miles, 36 months, in NJ but for the following months (I know they're dated)...
April 2017 May 2017 June 2017 July 2017
I'm trying to price out what the car will [roughly] cost during the same time period of 2018.
Thanks in advance!
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Hello. I'm looking for the MF and Residual for a XLE AWD 12k/36 for east Tennessee (Zip 37923)?
I'm trying to get dealers to match the Toyota advertised 299$ month lease deal, but nobody is getting close, even with the 3850$ payment. Anybody have luck with getting close to that deal and then getting the dealer to go for 0$ down?
Hello. I'm looking for the MF and Residual for a XLE AWD 12k/36 for east Tennessee (Zip 37923)?
I'm trying to get dealers to match the Toyota advertised 299$ month lease deal, but nobody is getting close, even with the 3850$ payment. Anybody have luck with getting close to that deal and then getting the dealer to go for 0$ down?
Thanks!
64% and, likely, .00072
The $3850 you don't put down will add $107/mo to the payment
Hi I was just offered the following on an XLE in NY (8.125% tax). 36/12. Numbers don't seem right to me - I get around $426/mo with tax. Can you tell if I am missing something? I feel like there are some fees in there that I don't know about.
MSRP: $43,437 Sale Price: $40,251 Residual: $27,800 Money Factor: .00072 up to 36 months Monthly Payment with your first month & DMV down: $452 Monthly Payment with your first month DMV & Taxes : $414
Hi I was just offered the following on an XLE in NY (8.125% tax). 36/12. Numbers don't seem right to me - I get around $426/mo with tax. Can you tell if I am missing something? I feel like there are some fees in there that I don't know about.
MSRP: $43,437 Sale Price: $40,251 Residual: $27,800 Money Factor: .00072 up to 36 months Monthly Payment with your first month & DMV down: $452 Monthly Payment with your first month DMV & Taxes : $414
Ask the dealer for the adjusted capitalized cost, and how they arrived at that number from the selling price.
Looking for MF/RV on 2017 Hybrid Limited 36 months / 12k miles per year. In Southern California. Thanks
64% and .00225
thanks.
Do you have the numbers on the non hybrid Highlander limited fwd and awd. Looking to compare 36 and 24 months as well as 10 and 12k per year. Again in socal. Thanks
Looking for MF/RV on 2017 Hybrid Limited 36 months / 12k miles per year. In Southern California. Thanks
64% and .00225
thanks.
Do you have the numbers on the non hybrid Highlander limited fwd and awd. Looking to compare 36 and 24 months as well as 10 and 12k per year. Again in socal. Thanks
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New to the lease arena. Looking at a 2017 XLE Zip is 83712. Lease deal says $39980 MSRP Whats a good "negotiated price for the XLE? Add says Bonus cash to dealer. How much is the "bonus cash". I see others using a residual of .667 and a MF of .00072 does that sound about right.
New to the lease arena. Looking at a 2017 XLE Zip is 83712. Lease deal says $39980 MSRP Whats a good "negotiated price for the XLE? Add says Bonus cash to dealer. How much is the "bonus cash". I see others using a residual of .667 and a MF of .00072 does that sound about right.
We don't have Idaho numbers. Money factor is either .00072 or .00225
Term and mileage affects residual, as does AWD or FWD. Don't see any lease cash offers for the Highlander.
Hi guru's, do you have the residual / MF for 3yr/15k in Washington state for an XLE Hybrid Hylander?
The sponsored lease on the non-hybrid XLE uses an adj cap cost of $36,878 from the MSRP of $41,678, but only mentions a $250 subvention/lease cash. $5,000 seems like a big discount wondering if this includes some other lease money that would still be available on hybrid. Any chance y'all know or is that just a reasonable discount? Thanks!
Hi guru's, do you have the residual / MF for 3yr/15k in Washington state for an XLE Hybrid Hylander?
The sponsored lease on the non-hybrid XLE uses an adj cap cost of $36,878 from the MSRP of $41,678, but only mentions a $250 subvention/lease cash. $5,000 seems like a big discount wondering if this includes some other lease money that would still be available on hybrid. Any chance y'all know or is that just a reasonable discount? Thanks!
62% and .00225
We don't have the specific WA state incentives, so can't tell you if there is more lease cash than what's been shown, or if it's just a good discount.
Nampa Idaho deal. 2017 Highlander XLE (Blizzard Pearl, Grey interior)) AWD, 36/12. $3029 down. $367/month Residual $26,261. Signing contract tomorrow unless someone has found a better deal!
MSRP and selling price?
Seems a lot to put down on a lease. What does it cover?
Final was $2029 down, that includes the $650 acq fee and the first payment of $397. Gross cap was $39,895, MSRP including freight was $41,595 . Since we put down $1,000 less, out payment went from $367 to $397. MF was .00072
I'm looking to lease a 2017 Highlander either in SE or Limited trim. What kind of RV and MF can I expect on each with a 36/12k lease in Northern California?
Also, does credit score influence MF? I also see some quotes say "either xxx or xxx MF". Is getting the better of the two dependent on negotiating or using MSD? TIA!!
I'm looking to lease a 2017 Highlander either in SE or Limited trim. What kind of RV and MF can I expect on each with a 36/12k lease in Northern California?
Also, does credit score influence MF? I also see some quotes say "either xxx or xxx MF". Is getting the better of the two dependent on negotiating or using MSD? TIA!!
FWD or AWD?
The Toyota MF and incentives are regional. For those regions we don't have information for, it's one or the other.
I'm looking to lease a 2017 Highlander either in SE or Limited trim. What kind of RV and MF can I expect on each with a 36/12k lease in Northern California?
Also, does credit score influence MF? I also see some quotes say "either xxx or xxx MF". Is getting the better of the two dependent on negotiating or using MSD? TIA!!
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What state and tax rate?
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The sales price is $4133 off MSRP. It was $3133 but I negotiated an additional thousand due to the mileage. It's an 8.4% discount total.
Adding in the acquisition fee, I only get $517/mo.+tax or $548/mo, not $568. Maybe they added GAP, or some garbage fee?
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This is what I believe it "should" be...
It seems their math is off, showing me a payment of $568 a month, and their Cap is higher at $47,084...
The math doesn't lie, so the numbers they are using must be different.
Confirm the MF with them.
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You need to get the exact numbers from the dealership. Your calculations totally disregard the money you are paying upfront, and how it's allocated.
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So, I moved to a limited. Negotiated to 6.2% off MSRP. They're claiming it's $500 below invoice but I doubt that... Using the same MF and 12K miles I calculated the payment within $1 of their calculation. I'm at $506 a month with $0 down. Just first month and my negative equity payoff. I feel like it's a fair deal.
Looking for MF and RV for Highlander XLE and LE Plus, 36/15k, in CT.
Thanks!
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June 2017
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And, it won't help you in trying to figure out when the best time is to lease. Lease when you need to...
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I'm trying to get dealers to match the Toyota advertised 299$ month lease deal, but nobody is getting close, even with the 3850$ payment. Anybody have luck with getting close to that deal and then getting the dealer to go for 0$ down?
Thanks!
The $3850 you don't put down will add $107/mo to the payment
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Add 6% for 24 months.
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Also, when figuring the residual, do I use purchase price, or MSRP ?
New York - 14221
Residual is calculated against the MSRP - bottom line number of the factory window sticker.
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MSRP: $43,437
Sale Price: $40,251
Residual: $27,800
Money Factor: .00072 up to 36 months
Monthly Payment with your first month & DMV down: $452
Monthly Payment with your first month DMV & Taxes : $414
Acquisition fee ($650) is the likely culprit.
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Do you have the numbers on the non hybrid Highlander limited fwd and awd. Looking to compare 36 and 24 months as well as 10 and 12k per year. Again in socal. Thanks
AWD: 67%/61% residual for 24/36 months
Subtract 1% for FWD
No 10K/yr allowance from TFS
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Looking at a 2017 XLE Zip is 83712. Lease deal says $39980 MSRP Whats a good "negotiated price for the XLE? Add says Bonus cash to dealer. How much is the "bonus cash". I see others using a residual of .667 and a MF of .00072 does that sound about right.
Money factor is either .00072 or .00225
Term and mileage affects residual, as does AWD or FWD.
Don't see any lease cash offers for the Highlander.
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do you have the residual / MF for 3yr/15k in Washington state for an XLE Hybrid Hylander?
The sponsored lease on the non-hybrid XLE uses an adj cap cost of $36,878 from the MSRP of $41,678, but only mentions a $250 subvention/lease cash. $5,000 seems like a big discount wondering if this includes some other lease money that would still be available on hybrid. Any chance y'all know or is that just a reasonable discount?
Thanks!
Seems a lot to put down on a lease. What does it cover?
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We don't have the specific WA state incentives, so can't tell you if there is more lease cash than what's been shown, or if it's just a good discount.
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Incentives?
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Don't have Arizona. It's either .00225 or .00072 MF
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Also, does credit score influence MF? I also see some quotes say "either xxx or xxx MF". Is getting the better of the two dependent on negotiating or using MSD? TIA!!
The Toyota MF and incentives are regional. For those regions we don't have information for, it's one or the other.
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The .00225 is for top tier credit, BTW
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Edit. Whoops posted this in another thread too, sorry
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Subtract 1% for Ltd Plat
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