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Tax rate is 6% and everything is rolled into the payment. I was not given an adjusted cap cost. So at this point I do not know what other fees like acquisition or deal fees. But perhaps can work it backwards and estimate what they may be.
Here is what I do know:
2018 Audi Q5 Prestige Plus including 20" wheels and Cold Weather Packages.
MSRP: $48,575
Location: South Florida
Duration: 36 months
Miles/Year: 10k
Dealer discount: 10% off MSRP ($4,858)
Dealer Fee: $?
Tag: $? (Although I do have my tag from my previous vehicle)
Acquisition Fee: $?
Residual Value: 59%
FL Lease Tax: 6% on lease payments only and not full car price.
Dealers best offer: $639 per month with $0 down (OTD, includes tax and fees).
Michael, any help would be greatly appreciated!
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.00169 and 59% for 36/10 on Q5 Premium Plus
With the MSRP and tax rates provided, the adjusted cap cost is in the neighborhood of $45,800 to get to $639/mo, tax included.
So, with a selling price of $43,717, that's $2083 to bridge:
$639 first payment
$895 acquisition fee
$549 doc fee (just a guess)
However, if this is a $0 due at signing "sign and drive" lease, then I can't make the numbers work. Just so you know, $0 down is not the same as $0 due at signing. Is the dealer asking for any money when you sign the paperwork?
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36 months/12K, MF at .00179 and residual at 58%. Upfront fees at $2500. Monthly quote at 690. Is that a good deal? Any hidden charges?
What state and tax rate is this?
What is the breakdown of the $2500?
That's a decent discount from sticker, for an Audi; might be a few hundred more you could shave off, if you wanted to push it.
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Could you please provide RV and MF 24/10 for '18 Q5 Premium Plus.
Zip code : 94588. Appreciate your response.
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I am new to this forum and I am new to leasing cars, so I wanted to check with you to see if the following was a decent deal:
2018 Audi Q5, Premium Package + Navigation, 20" wheels, B&O sound, + small additional items with MSRP of $54,375
I have a printout of their "blue screen" - it quotes cash sales price of $47,440. Chicago sales tax of $4541 and document fees of $176. My first question is how do they get the cash sales price? Looks like it's down 12.75% of MSPR, that's good right? But how did they come to the cash sales price?
Our terms negotiated are $4650 cash down, $1000 rebate, 48 months, 10k miles/yr, $565 monthly payment which includes Audi Care, Ding Protection + Gap Insurance (valued at $2659 for those 3 additional items).
Looks like our Res is 56%. Is this good for stats above?
Let me know if there is anything else you need to understand if we are making a good decision?
Thank you!
But, we don't recommend large down payments or ding protection. Gap insurance is standard with any Audi Financial Services lease, so no need to purchase it separately.
We do recommend Audi Care, as it increases the residual by 1%.
If you live in the city of Chicago, the lease taxes are gonna hurt. You'll have both the IL state tax as well as the city tax - something like 17% combined.
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Premium Plus Quattro: Zero Down, Zero amount at Signing
MSRP 53235
Discount 3724
S_____ Price 49511
Phantom Footprint 99
PermaPlate Protection 995
Total Purchase 50605
Doc Fee 589
Tax 3622
Title Fee 90
Business Tax 153
Net Price 54 816
Balance 55059
Zero Down Payment : 36 months : 10,000 Mile : 839 to 854 $ per month
I was told that Monet Factor is : .0.00209
And Residual is : 59%
Kindly Suggest.
1. MF is marked up from .00169
2. TN taxes the monthly payment, so you can ignore the tax amount - that is for a purchase
3. The phantom footprint and permaplate are junk fees, and are adding $30/mo to the payment.
The one positive aspect of the quote is the 7% off sticker price.
Politely tell the dealer you won't sign a deal with an inflated MF; they know what the base rate is.
Negotiate as much as you can off the sticker to mitigate the junk fees.
Also, if you have another dealer close by, reach out to them; the competition between them for your business will get you the best price.
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MF is marked way, way up (base MF is .00169).
I don't understand the multiple discounts on that worksheet, either.
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What is the quoted payment?
Is it a 2018 model?
Is it a demo or service loaner?
That discount is huge for a Q5. Almost unbelievable. I'd guess the "additional discount" is only available with the huge markup in money factor.
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What is the quoted payment?
Is it a 2018 model?
Is it a demo or service loaner?
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That discount is huge for a Q5. Almost unbelievable. I'd guess the "additional discount" is only available with the huge markup in money factor.
The quoted payment for 30 Mo with $0 down is $917. Yes it's a 2018 and brand new, not a loaner. Also excellent credit with that .0028 MF?
Also what is the dealer services of $497. Our negotiated deal over the phone was 51,500 "Out the Door" then that term sheet is what i
Also what is the dealer services of $497. Our negotiated deal over the phone was 51,500 "Out the Door" then that term sheet is what i
.00169 is the base money factor for top tier credit. Anything additional is a dealer markup.
Dealer Services and Phantom FP are garbage charges.
Why a 30 month lease? The 36 month residual is just 3% lower and will result in a lower payment.
What is the mileage allowance?
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However, you said your out the door price was $51,500 (it's 50,500 on the sheet). That would give me $919/mo.
A 36 month lease with the same terms would be $844/mo vs. the $919/mo.
All of those numbers are a lot for a $52K MSRP vehicle.
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Using the numbers on your sheet, I get $883/mo. for 30/15
However, you said your out the door price was $51,500 (it's 50,500 on the sheet). That would give me $919/mo.
A 36 month lease with the same terms would be $844/mo vs. the $919/mo.
All of those numbers are a lot for a $52K MSRP vehicle.
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I just got confirmation from the dealer that there was a large markup in the MF. They discounted the total cost and increased the MF to make up for it.
Also they are telling me that the dealer services and Phantom are "required" to be in there by the dealership.
At the end of the day if i get the MF back down to the standard .00169 is the rest a good deal?
I just got confirmation from the dealer that there was a large markup in the MF. They discounted the total cost and increased the MF to make up for it.
Also they are telling me that the dealer services and Phantom are "required" to be in there by the dealership.
At the end of the day if i get the MF back down to the standard .00169 is the rest a good deal?
If you can preserve that big discount from sticker, getting the MF down to .00169 would be fantastic.
Required? Only because they put those things onto every car that comes off the truck. Tell them to lower the selling price more to offset those garbage charges.
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2018 Q5 Prestige
MSRP: $54,650
Discount: $3,279
Selling Price: $51,371
License: $800
Doc: $150
Residual: $30,604
Miles: 10K
MF: .00199
36 months lease
At signing $2054: $846.33/month
At signing $4000: $786.34/month
At signing $6000: $724.70/month
What does the up front money cover?
With the prices provided, I get $740/mo, before tax. With the base MF, that drops to $715/mo
6% off sticker is a good discount, but tell them you won't sign a deal where the MF is inflated.
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Thank you!
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1. There is only one Dealer in my city for Audi:
And this is the Lease info from the Dealer for Prestige
and this is for Premium Plus :
2. I tried to negotiate the MF , but here is the response from them : "you are absolutely correct that the wholesale rate is 0.00169. We are given the option from Audi to mark it up to 0.00294. We are only marking up the Money Factor by what is effectively 1 percentage point, which equals the 0.00209 that you were shown. Wholesale interest is 4.056%. Our retail rate is 5.016%. We feel that less than 1% markup is fair to our customers."
3. I tried to (phone) contact another dealer , 3 Hrs drive away from my city . I was informed that , it will a monthly payment of 900 $ for zero down , inclusive of taxes for Prestige , where MSRP was $56,140. I am yet to receive the break down . I think I was told residual was 58% and MF was 0.00200 , I am yet to receive the email with break down from them tomorrow .
Kindly suggest . Thank you very much.
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2. So, they're only screwing you a little bit, not as much as they could. Nice of them to admit that. Lots of folks get the buy rate when leasing from Audi.
3. While I agree with the math on the worksheet, there is more room to negotiate on the price. Generally, 6% off sticker is a good discount, but if they are marking up the MF, then I would target an even bigger discount to offset that.
4. Sounds like the second dealer is already offering you a better deal on the Prestige. Higher MSRP, but a lower payment.
5. The Premium Plus is the better buy, given the higher residual.
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[Venki] : True Sir , I am trying.
2. So, they're only screwing you a little bit, not as much as they could. Nice of them to admit that. Lots of folks get the buy rate when leasing from Audi.
[Venki]: This is what is disturbing me from signing the dotted line. On a monthly basis if I am paying amount too close to a buying a car on loan , it just doesn't make any sense for me to be leasing it at all. But being my first luxury car , i wanted to test the waters by leasing it. I am contemplating between GLC and Audi. I liked the steering feel / driving feel of Audi . I liked the ride quality of GLC very much but I didn't like the GLC Steering feedback at all, it felt dead . Also the old school mode of changing gears using a stalk under the steering is a turn-off. I am torn between these 2 , but will have to a make a decision in next 2 days and move on. Don't want to spend much time pondering over this, will have to close this quickly.
Any expert advice of wisdom would be highly appreciated.
3. While I agree with the math on the worksheet, there is more room to negotiate on the price. Generally, 6% off sticker is a good discount, but if they are marking up the MF, then I would target an even bigger discount to offset that.
[venki] : Definitely I will negotiate for better price. yesterday when was given this quote , I was told that Premium Plus will be 6 to 7 % off but for Prestige , it will be 5 %. Doesn't matter , i will still negotiate.
4. Sounds like the second dealer is already offering you a better deal on the Prestige. Higher MSRP, but a lower payment.
[venki] : I am working with the second dealer to get the details today on a email as I cant drive 3 hrs only the quote. So waiting on them .
5. The Premium Plus is the better buy, given the higher residual.
[venki] : Premium Plus is enough. But hardly 50 $ difference in payment between Premium Plus and Prestige : And I am getting the fully features loaded for security and driver assistance , is the reason I am brought in Prestige in the picture.
Thank you for the help.
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