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2. The trade in value is the same whether you buy or lease - the car is worth what the market says it's worth. The idea behind a lease is that the payment is fixed based on a perceived value (the residual %). That number may or may not correspond to the market. Most leases do not end with positive equity.
3. Audi, in general, does not have a great lease program. Think of 1% as a guideline, rather than a rule. Some cars lease for more than that, others less.
4. Leasing is an alternative to financing. The question I put to folks is this - how long do you plan to keep the car? If 3 years, then leasing may be the answer. If you keep your cars and run them into the ground, it's generally better to buy them up front.
We do both in my house - I lease my Jetta (low, fixed payment, and I get something new and shiny every 3 years), but we bought my wife's Outback (we are hoping to keep it for 10 years, they retain value like crazy here in CO, and, she really, really likes it).
Bottom line, think of this as a learning experience. $695 is a pretty high payment for an A4 - read back through this thread to see what others have paid - but you've gained valuable experience that you can use the next time.
Congrats, and enjoy your Audi. I've rented an A4 a couple of times, and they are really nice. I wouldn't mind picking up a CPO version at some point.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Thanks!
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
.00101 and 48%
$2000 lease cash
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
.00081 and 53%
For $36K MSRP and $33K purchase price, I get a payment of $429/mo. Assumes all taxes and fees are paid up front.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
A4 Quattro Premium Plus, cold weather and Audi guard, 36/10, zip 45458
$46075 MSRP
$42200 Sale Price
-$3000 lease cash and conquest
+1264 sales tax (over term)
+895 acquisition
+250 doc
$41609 cap cost
$837 due at signing
$24880 RV
MF .000838 (marked up a little)
Payment = $520
I plan to do max security deposits to get it down to ~$485
I'll try to get them to come down on the money factor, but can live with it as is. I know A4s "don't lease well", but this is what she wants, and I'm pretty happy with these numbers.
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MF only goes to 5 decimal places; seems odd that your dealer is quote a MF with 6.
That's actually not a bad payment for an A4, given how little is due at signing. It's the discount from sticker (pre incentive) that helps you there.
"Happy wife, happy life" - hey, I get it.
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Are there any lease cash ?? or southern California not eligible?
I am looking at a 2018 Audi A4 Premium Plus quattro, $44800 MSRP (with added sport package and wood inlays).
I am going for 12k/36, and would like to get RV and MF for this trim in Maryland.
Also, I was wondering if around $8000 off would be a decent deal, and if "Non-tax fees" really amount to $1,200 for a lease.
Thank you so much!
First, thank you so much for all the insights provided on this forum.
Planning to lease an A4 Quattro Premium Plus with Sport package, looking for MF and RV in the San Francisco bay area, CA 95117
36/10 and 36/7.5
42/10 and 42/7.5
Also, what is max security depot, and deduction on MF?
Is it still the case that buying Audi Care increase RV by 1%
Thank you so much!
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$2000 lease cash
$8K off sticker is pretty ambitious - we generally suggest you target 6% off MSRP, before applying the incentives.
There is an $895 acquisition fee and likely a dealer doc fee of a few hundred dollars.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
42/10 - .00079 and 50%
$2000 lease cash
Add 1% for 7.5K
MSD - max 9 @ .00005 reduction each.
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Went to sign the deal today, and the internet sales manage did show me the sheet with those numbers.
Just to share some info about of my lease deal (Mythos Black on black):
MSRP 49650 (P+/Sport/Navi/Wood inlay)
36/7.5K
MF 0.00059 (did not buy down as it would only save ~$25/month)
Audi Care (to increase RV by 1%)
Zero down on signing except the first month payment (DMV fees $284+275, acquisition $895, AudiCare $869, Doc $80 were all rolled into gross capitalized cost)
Lease payment: $500 before tax
For others in the Bay area, Audi Concord is advertising $5,500 off MSRP of $49,650 for a few cars, but I did not buy there. I picked a south bay dealer and could choose cars of my liking, black or white on black.
So, close to $5,500 off the MSRP, in addition to $2,000 lease cash, can be done in this area.
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MSRP: 41050
Selling Price $35,331.18 now minus $2,000 in rebates.
Sales Tax 7.25%
36 months
12,000 miles per year
1st month Payment 436.26
Security Deposits 0
Acquisition fee 0
Fees and insurance 553.75
upfront taxes 154.80
Cap Reduction 55.19
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Total 1200.00 Drive off
$407/mo + tax ($436.26/mo tax incl)
are these numbers looks good ??
Dealer cannot adjust the residual. If you purchased AudiCare, then it should have been bumped by 1%. If the contract is wrong, the bank will send it back to the dealer to be updated.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
PA taxes the monthly payment, so I do not understand what the $1408 in taxes represent.
In addition, we recommend you add the bank fee to the monthly payment, and not pay it up front.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
$2000 lease cash
$1000 conquest
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I get a lower payment, using your prices.
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And, if the dealer continues to balk, then perhaps it's time to think about contacting another dealer.
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The selling price was the same as MSRP, at the time of writing the post, no discount was given. Salesperson said marianav does not qualify for the conquest bonus which is fair, and offered $2000 lease cash.
$1408 is the upfront payment of all monthly payment taxes. Should this also be included in the monthly payments like the bank fee was recommended?
So do you think the MF of .00059 is what it should be? Also the bank fee and "new plates" fee seem to be marked up a lot, can you please tell what are the regular charges?
Thanks a lot for your help!
On the surface, looks good, but without the details, it's hard to know for sure.
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You want to negotiate 6% off the MSRP, before applying any incentives.
Yes, add the sales tax into the payment, as well. You won't get them back if the car is stolen or totaled.
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MRSP: $43,730
RV: 54%
MF: .00059
Down Payment: $3785 (Includes Taxes, Title, Doc Fee, First Month Payment)
Lease: $400/month
Term: 36/10k
State: NJ
Can you tell me if this is a good deal?
The items you listed should be less than $3785.
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Any recommendations of what the threshold for net CAP cost should be for it to make sense for me to take the deal or walk away?
Any recommendations of what the threshold for net CAP cost should be for it to make sense for me to take the deal or walk away?
Not really... without the numbers, we can't calculate a payment.
The money seems reasonable for an A4.
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Can you please provide MF and Residual Value for:
Audi A4 Premium Plus Ultra 36/12k in CA 90034?
Thanks in advance,
RJ
Selling Price: $39,089.46
Adj CAP cost: $36,612.52
$2000 lease bonus
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Follow-up questions
1) Is MF/Resid any different for Prestige trim (all else same)?
2) What is the MF for multiple upfront payment discount?
3) How does the lease bonus cash apply? Is it just a reduction in the selling price or are there other intricacies to it?
Thanks in advance for your help.
AWD: .00059 MF and 51% residual
$2000 lease bonus
Anything the dealer contributes, ultimately comes out of your pocket. No way around that.
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