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2018 Honda Civic Sedan, EXT and EXL
2017 Honda Civic Sedan, EXT, EXL, Touring
36/12
Skokie, IL 60076 but anywhere in Chicagoland area.
Thanks!
.00124 MF
$1400 lease incentive
Honda does not offer 10K allowance; 24/12 and 27/12 residuals are 64% / 63%
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
.00124 MF
$1400 lease cash
58%/56% residual for EXT/EXL
There are no 2017 model lease programs
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.00124 MF
$1000 lease cash on LX Hatch
$1600 lease cash on LX Sedan
55% (sedan) or 57% (hatch)
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Civic Hatchback Sports Touring 12k/36mons, 760 credit in Washington State?
I got a offer of $480 with 0 down (MSRP was ~29000). Why do I feel it's pretty high? (my old lease was a Nissan Leaf $250/0down. That's not comparable?)
$800 lease cash
55% residual
It's high... but, we need selling price, adjusted cap cost and amount due at signing to see why.
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$480 is still a bit high, but knowing the cap cost would help.
WA sales tax is around 10%, right?
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Can I get numbers for Civic Sedan LX, EXT as well as Hatch LX (all three in manual transmissions) at 12k per year for 36 mo. Also, does Honda offer a 10k per year lease? Thank you!
$57%/58%/59% residual, respectively
$1400 lease cash sedan
$800 lease cash hatch
No 10K/yr
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$800 lease cash
60% residual
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.00124 MF
LX: 57% residual, $1400 lease cash
EX: 58% residual, $1200 lease cash
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Also, how would you guys recommend going about negotiating? KBB lists fair market range of an EXT manual to be 20,500-21700 with invoice of 20962. I would normally shoot for invoice price then try to subtract the lease cash and present it to the dealer but those were vehicles that had invoice price that was at or higher than the fair market value on KBB. Is it unreasonable to do that? (20962 minus 1400 lease cash as the purchase price)
Both EX and EX-T have $1400 lease cash
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
2018 Civic ExT, 36mo/12mi, $673.26 drive off,
$237.87 base pymt + 18.44 tax = $256.31 a month.
MSRP: $23,290
Cap: $19,956
Adj cap: $20,551 (incl $595 bank fee),
MF .00124 and residual 58%.
Is this a good deal? Thank you in advance.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Could you please provide numbers for a 2018 Civic EX-L Hatchback? 12K year/ 36 Months.
Auburn, MA 01501.
Thanks.
$800 lease cash
57% residual
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Price: $20,530.
Discounted price: $16,854.55 (-$3,675.45)
Adjusted Cap: $17,449.55 (includes $595 of additionals that I'm assuming is acq. fee)
MF: .00124 | Res 57%
Monthly: $210/mo (includes $14.20/mo tax @7.25%)
Due at signing: $606.55 (drive-offs)
Do these numbers look accurate?
Do you know the MF for Tier 1 and Tier 2 lessees? I don't think I'm 1+.
Thanks for any help!
Any credit score above 660 qualifies for the .00124 MF; if the score is between 610-659, the MF goes to .00190
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Price: $20,530
"Total Cap Cost:" 16,012.37
MF: .00179
Monthly: $185/mo (including tax.)
Due at signing: $650
This was texted to me by a fleet manager, he wasn't keen on sending me a printout since he knew I'd shop it around... lol. The MF is obviously inflated, but do I care? The way I see it, if they needed to make X margin, they could have chosen to either keep the price higher, or they could raise the MF. I'm not sure if there's really a difference to me.
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Michaell, what's your take on the seemingly-inflated MF? It seems to me that they could have either relented less on the price, or raised the MF - but both seem to accomplish the same goal of working their margin on the car - seems like 6 of one, half dozen of the other type of thing to me. Is there something I'm missing? I called the guy out on the higher MF, but he fought me on it and refused to say it was inflated. Which annoyed me on principle...
I'd also be curious if this 0-down payment seems decent to you compared to others you may have seen.
1. Could this be a non-Honda lease? If so, we wouldn't have any way to verify those numbers
2. Lowering the price and raising the MF simply transfers the commission from the salesman to the F&I guy; that's an internal dealer decision. As long as you get the payment you want, does it matter?
I don't compare deals to each other; I simply try to help each person get the deal they are comfortable with.
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1. You're right on this one, and leading into your second point....
2. I agree, I don't know that I care. It's the fleet manager I'm dealing with, I'm sure he has his reasons.
As a matter of principle, I want the [non-permissible content removed] to admit that it's inflated since it's through Honda Finance. Hah!
Thanks as always.
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36/12
.00124 MF
58% residual
$1400 lease cash
No support for 48 month term.
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Notes:
1. My money factor is .0005 higher (.00179 instead of .00129) because they're allowed to waive the $595 acquisition fee and bump the MF up .0005. It means that instead of adding the $595 fee to your cap cost or paying it out of pocket, you pay a slightly higher MF. It results in a roughly $6/mo. lower payment
2. If I had paid my own drive-offs and had no negative equity from my prior lease, my payments would have been only about $175/month + tax. :shrug:
Sticker Price: $20,530
Total Discounts/Credits: ~($4,500)
Gross Cap Cost: $16,012
Dealer paying off my old lease turn-in: $850 (not pictured)
Dealer paying my drive-offs: $663
Bull$*#% profit I let the dealer sneak in: ~$170
Adjusted Cap Cost: $17,700
And, I confirm the MF bump to waive the acquisition fee. Standard Honda option.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
.00124 MF
$1400 lease cash ($1600 is only for LX sedan)
54% for 36/15
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Oh, ouch! Sorry for assuming you came through the accident unscathed. Get better, then start shopping.
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.00124 MF
$800 incentive
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.00124 MF
$2000 lease cash
58% residual
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36 months 12k miles per year
zip 32771
Tier 1-3 if possible as my score is low, but I may be able to get a co-signer.
Thank You!
That is for tiers 1 to 3 (710 score and higher). Next highest MF is .00265 (660-709), then .00420 (610-659)
You can find a Type R to be leased?
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and for Civic Touring. Residual and money factor.Thanks for your help. How does lease cash work? Thanks