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  • tp4unctp4unc Posts: 437
    about trucksrme. I think he knows alot about him.
    Just a hunch I've had for quite some time.
  • rooster9rooster9 Posts: 239
    First off, the Tundra does not use the engine the Tacoma does. Do you see a V-8 in the Tacoma? Didn't think so.

    Second, who really cares if the Tundra uses the same rear pumpkin as the Tacoma. If the Tacoma's was overengineered to withstand more than what a fullsize pickup can give it, then what's the difference? I wouldn't say anything if the Dodge Ram shared the rear pumpkin with the Dakota. I really wouldn't care, as long as I didn't start hearing stories of them going out. And by the way, I've heard nothing about a Tundra's rear end failing.

    About the towing thing, you don't make much sense. Just because the manufacturer posts a higher towing capacity based on what their lawyers told them they could post, doesn't mean anything. Take ATV's for example, they can pull twice or three times what their tow rating is. All the tow rating is is a safety concern, that's it. Good luck on this one now!
  • flycst2flycst2 Posts: 4
    I think all the people interested in Tundra's would probably be more swayed by facts and figures. Dimensions are meaningless unless you can tell me the force that can be applied until failure or the expected MTBF (mean time between failure) for a given duty cycle. A great indicator of the strength of a drivetrain is rear wheel horsepower. Engine horsepower is meaningless if 50% is dropped through the drivetrain. Does anyone have dyno testing to know what percentage of power that is lost through the drivetrain for the various manufacturers?

    I drove a 56 Ford truck until 1991, it was less complex than today's trucks and for hauling it was fine. For driving around town it really sucked compared to modern vehicles.

    If size was all that mattered most of us would just get crew cab duallys.

    I have yet to hear 90% of the respondents bashing anyone. We just get angry when responses get regurgitated or contain answers not pertinent to the question. I believe everyone accepts that the big 3 probably have a day-in-day out better maximum payload. Unfortunately almost none of our questions are about maximum payload. Most of us want a driver's truck that can handle occasional medium duty chores. We also want a truck that is a good value, which for me is a combination of price, performance and reliability.

    I still have not heard of any head gasket issues with the Land Cruiser - Lexus V8. I believe this is it's third or fourth year of service.
  • flycst2flycst2 Posts: 4
    All bets are off concerning head gaskets in a Tundra with the V-6.
  • eharri3eharri3 Posts: 645
    Somewhere we're getting our signals crossed. Tundra owners give me the impression that they believe that the truck they bought, carlike in design and built and marketed for light to medium duty use but probably destined for roughly 90% non hauling commuter duty, is better than any big three truck, which offer more options and equipment vatiation and are designed and intended to do more of what a pickup truck is inherently intended for. What Umkay said makes perfect sense. Tundra owners mostly use their trucks for commuting and light hauling and care more about car like features than max hauling capacity. But they then use their own criteria, carlike features and 'predicted reliability', to define it as the best truck though they have little to do with what makes a pickup truck among the best of its kind.
    When the Tundra comes in half ton, 3/4 ton, and 1 ton models, offers manuals with V8 engines, offers at least 2 or 3 different v8 options, comes with optional dual rear wheels, and you can order a longbed extended cab it can then be put in the same category as the domestics. Until then you cannot call it the best full sized truck because you cannot properly compare it to other fll sized trucks. It needs a greater availability and interchangability of options and a wider choice of equipment levels and models. Who knows, maybe Toyota has more in store for the near future along those lines. I do not argue with any Tundra owner that says they have an excellent truck that meets their personal needs better than any other. I think though that those who call it the best full sized truck on the market are out of their league. Sorry for the longwinded post, hopefully everyone has gotten used to my big mouth by now.
  • trucksrmetrucksrme Posts: 381
    That haul ratin be based on doin the haul with them trucks and them not breakin. Just give that eye-ball too them drivetrain parts on them tundras as compared too them big3 ones. This be where that 2400 LBS of difference be from, not them lawyers now. Use your eyes on this one now. Good luck on this one now!
  • barlitzbarlitz Posts: 752
    This year they voted the tundra in the magazines,what did they vote last year or the year before, are the trucks voted on before the best out there probably not.I'm willing to bet the supercrew and the new chevy superduty's will win next year but that doesn't mean they're the best.They usually always vote in the newest product.
  • smith53smith53 Posts: 72
    The reason truckabilly does his posting on the tundra site is the people on the chevy site know the truth about chevy trucks. I have had two chevy trucks and they have never left me stranded along side the road. My first chevy's engine died on me and I coasted to a chevy dealer. The 96 silverado died of fuel pump failure as I was discussing its starting difficulties. As for trucksrme's farm talk he would not know a farm if he was lost on it..
  • smith53smith53 Posts: 72
    the 96 silverado was sitting in the dealership service area when it refused to start
  • rooster9rooster9 Posts: 239
    I no longer care what trucksrme has to say. I think he's eating way too much Lucky Charms for breakfast because he sure talks like a Leprechan. Is his real name Lucky? Trucksrme, you'd better watch out if you're wearing your usual green suit when feeding the cows, they might mistake you for a haybale and gobble you up! Oh, and stay out of the feederwagon!
  • trucksrmetrucksrme Posts: 381
    We aint workin no dairy farm now. We be mainly rasin the Golden Leaf, know to most folk as tobacco now. So the next time ya be lighten one up, be rememeberin now, them Chevrolet's did that haul on it to market.
  • trucksrmetrucksrme Posts: 381
    Ya got ya that feudian slip now, ya said:

    I have had two chevy trucks and they have never left me stranded along side the road.

    Good luck on this one now!
  • spoogspoog Posts: 1,224
    It's time for the truth. It's time for the little boys and girls to run along. It's time for the facts, and only the facts. It's time to end the heresay and mythology. These facts have been brought to you by SPOOG. Enjoy!
  • spoogspoog Posts: 1,224
    The source is the grandaddy of them all, the NHSTA site.

    " A poem everyone! The laddy rekons himself a poet!"
  • spoogspoog Posts: 1,224
    " Once there was a get back homeward......."
  • rdve80rdve80 Posts: 139
    The full size market has at least 3 weight types, 3 cab types and 3 bed types (with the Very Short Bed) plus many engine, transmission, axle ratio, axle type and 4WD combinations. Year-to-date the Tundra is 4% of this market with just 2 combinations plus 4WD. Toyota will need to introduce at least 2-3 additional combinations each year for several years to serve the total market before there can be a Big4. The combinations are increasing. Plus the aftermarket options for the Tundra need to grow as well. How many Utility bodies are available to slap on that puppy??

    Each of us have a different set of criteria from preferences to needs. And even in the segment of the market that the Tundra serves, it isn't the ideal truck for us all. Otherwise, Toyota would have built more factory capacity right away and the BIG3 would have nothing but inventory. But Toyota has a disadvantage with it's small market share and lack of parts sharing between pickups and SUVs. For example, to control costs, the single wheelbase used on the Tundra results in a cab to rear axle distance that makes the
    Access Cab unsuited for 5th wheel towing. The BIG3 can afford to have dedicated wheelbases for each combination. This is a real need, not a preference and it's part of what defines the full size truck market.

    The Tundra is a good truck(and so are the others), not the world's best truck, because one truck doesn't work for everyone.
  • trucksrmetrucksrme Posts: 381
    Them utility bodies be for the workin truck. Them limited ones aint got enough haul in em for that type of load now. Dont much matter no how, since them tundra folks be leanin more towards them stick-on doo-dads and such for them limited ones. As for that fifth wheelin, them tundra folk not even got a clue what that be all about now. Good luck on this one now!
  • Nice post....well thought out, intelligent, and courteous--a credit to your genetic code. Your family must be proud of you. I'm sure you'd be able to persude anyone to your beliefs...
  • smith53smith53 Posts: 72
    I still use the 96 silverado daily, runs good once the engine stops knocking on start up.
  • It seems that Budlitedude3 is getting a little out of control again. Can we look forward to Budlitedude4?
  • Just bought a new Tundra limited. The back of the truck seems to be about 5 inches higher than the front. Is there anyway of to make the truck level?
  • arkie6arkie6 Posts: 198
    Do you have the 4x4 and TRD option? My 4x4 non-TRD sets about 1-2" higher in the back. Anyway, you can find more information on raising the front end of the Tundra over on
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Posts: 3,581
    You've got a lot of room to talk about spoog. Neither you nor trucksrme (Rubluetoo) have made a single constructive remark in here and it is wearing thin. Just because not everybody chooses to use a truck in the way you think they need to, you spew forth a series of criticisms.

    Go away. You both are unneeded here.
  • Its a Tundra 4x4 with the off-road package TRD options. I checked that web site, but didnt see anything about raising the front. Thanks, Ronny
  • arkie6arkie6 Posts: 198
    Checkout the message board and look for info on "cornbread" spacers or Fabtech suspension lift for lifting the front of the Tundra.
  • arkie6arkie6 Posts: 198
    Actually, its "Cornbred" spacers and the info is located under the Performance Products section of the Message board. Here is the web page for them:

    You still might want to checkout the owners impressions of the spacers over on TundraSolutions.
  • I agree with you 100%. If they could offer a good conversation, great. But all they seem to want to do is put the Toyota down. I don't believe I have said even one negative remark about the big 3.

    I have said before every truck has it's plus' and minuses. When it comes to 1/2 ton extra cab 4x4 it is a very competitive group. I chose the Tundra. It wasn't an easy decision, but I'm very happy with it. I certainly wouldn't dog another guys choice (mostly cause I just don't care what anyone else picks).

    It would be nice if you could exchange real ideas on this site......
  • obyoneobyone Posts: 8,054
    I am a Silverado owner. I pop in to this topic every so often to see what some of the Silverado owners are up to. IMHO, I don't understand the necessity to defend the Tundra to the Big 3 owners. More so, since, as you say everyone is entitled to their opinion. They, the Silverado owners, may put down the Tundra or even the people who own them...and it still takes two to tango. I understand that it is difficult to ignore them, then again it's all a matter of what's important to you. The way I see it, the people defending the Tundra are the fuel or the catalyst for the fire. Stop defending the Tundra and it becomes a one person conversation where they probably would get bored and move on. I personally find ruebluetoo entertaining. He repeats himself and the more he does the more people get upset. I can only deduce that the content that he writes must have a good percentage of truth or why get upset. His style of delivery requires, in my opinion, some amount of creativity.

    I, personally, miss the posts or rwellbaum2. Even though his approach would be by some, considered to be antagonistic, he did have valid posts and often had content that would help other Tundra owners.

    Bottom line:
    Some of the Tundra owners have stated that if you want to get away from all of "this BS" that as a Tundra owner you should go to Why then would people keep coming back...especially to topics like Tundra vs. Big 3 or Tundra vs. Ford F150. Those topics I would think would NOT have any info regarding your Tundra...but be more like a war room. I guess it all comes down to the First Amendment. It is a double edged sword where we are allowed the right to free speech...but then so are others. For myself, I have waded through the 98% BS and found valuable info regarding my truck on Edmunds. I also have found it to be very interesting reading, especially with colorful characters like rueblue and BLD. To me they are the spice that adds flavor to the posts. Sorry for the long post...just my opinion...and nothing more.
  • trucksrmetrucksrme Posts: 381
    Got this tell from

    I loved this truck untill the head gasket blew at 17K. I have owned a long line of Toyotas, but my experience with this truck has been a nightmare. First when the gasket blew, I was told that "They all do it" and it would take a six weeks to get an new, re-designed head gasket from Japan. When I told the dealer that Washington's lemmon law would revert the ownership of the car to Toyota if it were out of service for more than 30 days, a gasket magically appeared the next day. While I am assured by Toyota that I have the new "no-blow" "thicker" gasket I don't believe any of it. I am sure that I have the old gasket design in my motor, and I'll be screwed after the warenty lapses. One of the reason I paid the outrageous price for this truck (25% over the price of a similarly equiped F 150) was to have Toyota reliability. The joke is on me.

    Ya got too be feelin sorry for these here folks for sure. Good luck on this one now!
  • rooster9rooster9 Posts: 239
    Went looking at trucks today. Looked at the Tundras and the Silverados. The Chevy dealer had like 100 or so Silverados on the lot. When looking at the Tundras, I was looking for one that would be equipped the way I would want it, and found two SR5 AccessCab 4x4's w/V-8, and everything in the options category were identical between the two trucks. But there was a price difference of nearly $1000 between the two trucks. I could not find what made the other one more expensive. One was black and the other was white. I also looked at the back differential between the Tundra and Tacoma. They do look close to the same thing, but no smaller than what the Silverado's had. With the Silverado's, is it true that you can't get the towing package (which includes the tow hitch and tranny cooler) with the standard suspension? Do you need the Z71, ZX3 (or whatever it is) or firm ride suspension? Also, is there any factory optional lockable tailgate for the Silverado? I doubt it, since I didn't see any in their brochure or here anything about one.
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