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Ask the dealer what the net cap cost is - and get them to explain how they got that number from the sell price.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
AWD - 56% and .00012
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
Thoughts and feedback are appreciated...
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Back that out of the $550/mo payment quoted and your at $455/mo .. which is pretty good for a car that stickers at $45K.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
I was quoted 55% and .000012 which seems off but payment comes in line with expectations.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
Got this offer from the dealership on a q50 awe premium w/ nav and I'm trying to confirm the numbers. When I use the lease calculator I come up with a payment of 397 incl 9% sales tax. Am I missing something?
DEALER DISCLOSURE
Automobile: New 2015 INFINITI Q50 91215 4dr Sdn Premium AWD w/AC , Automatic , Odom: 0
Vehicle Cost: 38,352.00 MSRP: 44,305.00 Term: 39
State: Pennsylvania County: MONTGOMERY City: Lease Type: Monthly
Lender: Infiniti, 10,000, Acq: CAP, Sec: 1,Full Floor Plan,East Region
Amount Due at Signing
1st Month Payment
407.69
Security Deposits
0.00
Acquisition Fee
0.00
Fees & Insurance
400.00
Upfront Taxes
0.00
Cap Reduction (Cash)
0.00
Total Inception Fees
807.69
Net Trade as Cap Reduction
0.00
Rebate as Cap Reduction
0.00
Total Drive Off
807.69
How Inception Fees are Paid
Cash as Drive Off
0.00
Net Trade as Drive Off
0.00
Rebate as Drive Off
0.00
Inception Fees Due (Added to Cap)
0.00
Total Paid
0.00
Remaining Due (Still Owed)
807.69
Total Cash Required on Delivery
807.69
Payment Information
Base Payment
374.03
Monthly (9.0000)
33.66
Final Payment
407.69
Profit
Vehicle Profit
0.00
Option Profit
0.00
Acquisition Fee Profit
0.00
Trade Profit
0.00
Tax Credit Profit
0.00
Tax Credit Fee
0.00
Back End (77.00%)
0.00
Total Profit
0.00
Rate Information
Retention Rate
0.00012
Reserve Rate
0.00000
Disclosed Rate
0.00012
Residual Information
MSRP
44,305.00
Low MSRP
44,940.00
MRM
0.00
Con Van Residual
0.00
Residual (Base)
53.00
Residual (Bump) %
3.00
Residual (Bump) $
0.00
Additional Miles Adj.
(0.00)
Odometer Over Adj.
(0.00)
Total Residual
24,810.80
Dealer Options
0.00
Factory Options
0.00
Purchase Option
25,110.80
Capitalized Cost Breakdown
Vehicle Cost
38,352.00
Vehicle Profit
0.00
Option Price
0.00
Total Selling Price
38,352.00
Acquisition Fee
700.00
Fees & Insurance
47.00
- Cap Reduction (Cash)
0.00
- Trade In
0.00
- Customer Rebate
0.00
Total Capital Reduction
0.00
Capital Cost
39,099.00
Capped Taxes
0.00
Total Capital Cost:
39,099.00
Mileage Information
Allowed Miles Per Year
10,000
Mileage Program
10,000
Add. Purchased Miles per Yr
0.00
Additional Miles Chrg
0.00
Total Mileage Chrg
0.00
Total Mileage Allowed
32,500
Excess Mileage Chrg
0.25
Odometer
0
Trade Information
Total Gross Trade
0.00
Total Owed Trade
0.00
Total Equity
0.00
Total ACV Trade
0.00
Maximum Advance Information
Max Advance $
62,727.00
Max Advance %
140.00
Miscellaneous Information
Tax Credit Amount
0.00
Max. Reserve Rate
0.00083
Fee Breakdown
Reg
400.00
Transfer Fee
6.00
Encumbrence Fee
5.00
Online Dealer Fee
14.15
Online Reg Fee
16.85
Temporary Plate Issue Fee
5.00
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I get the same number they do.. to the penny.
Total CAP cost is $39,099. Are you using that number for the CAP cost?
.00012 MF and 56% residual?
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You may get a better selling price on a closeout 2015 than you would on a brand new 2016.
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2001 Passat2010 G37S Sedan2013 G37xS Sedan2014 QX602015 Q402016 QX602016 E350 Sedan2017 QX602019 E450 Wagon2021 Sienna XSE AWD2022 Lexus RX3502022 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid Limited
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2015 Q50 AWD Premium: (Nav, Spare, Mats, Splash guards)
39 months - 12k/yr
MSRP: $44,940
Sale price: $35,715
Due at signing: $650
Monthly incl. Tax: $357
Numbers on point???
BTW, I'm in NY. Unfortunately, they don't have Black on Graphite, but I have the choice of Graphite or Malbec on Graphite. Not sure which to go with if I do decide to take the deal.
Thank you.
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2023 Nissan Pathfinder Platinum 4WD
.00025 MF and 56%/55% residual
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So this is what I got. Trying to get a Q50 Hybrid fully loaded... well here are the details.
2015 Q50 Hybrid prem 2wd (With tech pack, nav pack, illuminated kick, and window tint) (Texas)
MSRP 53,050
Sales Price 48,759
39 months 15k miles
At signing first month and fees (1,000 aprox)
Monthly 608.97
Residual used 55%
MF 0.001
Trying to get this to $550 or below. Got another Infiniti dealer quote me at around $560 but don't have the final details yet. They are telling me that march is the close out month for infiniti Don't know if thats entirely true or just a sales pitch.
What do you think? Was planning on putting down an extra thousand to make it 20 to 30 bucks less a month.
Also, have anyone here received complimentary maintenance for the lease of half the lease. Received an offer from Lexus IS250 with maintenance. But the IS50 doesn't compare to the Q50.
Any thoughts?
Thanks
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Went to other dealers and got a better offer at another place.
Q50 Hybrid all packages (nav and tech)
15K miles
39 months
$495
MF they are using the one you stated.. 0.00050
MRSP $53,545
Sales price.. don't know it yet..
I've crunched the numbers and the dealer does not want to meet me there. They stated that when they punch the numbers into their lease program there is no way that they can meet this monthly payment. Are my calculations wrong or is the dealer not willing to play ball?
2015 Infiniti Q50S Nav/Tech/Deluxe Touring
MSRP: $53520
Base Cap Cost: $47736
Cap Cost Reduction: $1000
Adjusted Cap Cost: $46736
Residual Value: 53%
MF: 0.00025
Terms: 39 months
Monthly Payment: $524.10
Could be three issues:
1. The dealer is balking on the cap cost price
2. They are inflating the MF
3. They are adding fees to the cap cost price
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2001 Passat2010 G37S Sedan2013 G37xS Sedan2014 QX602015 Q402016 QX602016 E350 Sedan2017 QX602019 E450 Wagon2021 Sienna XSE AWD2022 Lexus RX3502022 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid Limited
2023 Nissan Pathfinder Platinum 4WD
2015 Q50 AWD with Premium package
$1,960.40 due at signing
$368.47 a month
39 month / 30,000 mile lease
Can someone offer their opinion on this please? Looking to make a move within the next day or so.
We don't have that info. You can check to see what Edmunds has, by clicking on Car Research at the top of the page, then Incentives and Rebates
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To get close to the $368/mo., I need a CAP cost of $38,600, if the payment is pre-tax. With the $3000 rebate (taxable, unfortunately), that implies a price of $41,600, which isn't much of a discount. If that payment includes tax, then of course, the price is lower and possible a better deal.
The other thing I'll point out is the $599 fee in addition to the acquisition fee. Seems like some padding there, but of course, I don't know where you live, or if this deal includes tax and/or title/registration.
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does this change anything or is this still an average deal at best?
Looking into a Q50 Premium here at Infiniti of Charlotte... Their True Price (Sonic Automotive) is:
Current MF and residuals?
Thanks!
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each MSD reduces MF by .0001 (9x.0001=.0009)
MF = .0012
New MF = .0003 (.0012 - .0009)
.00025 MF and 55% residual for 39mo, 12K/yr.
$380/mo.+ tax..
10K/yr adds 1% to the residual and drops the payment to $369/mo.
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No... the MF isn't .0012, it's .00012.
You can only do 1 MSD, which would drop the money factor to .00002
In other words, the money factor is pretty close to ZERO, already.. The finance portion of the lease is already under $10/mo.
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First time poster. Really appreciate all the helpful comments and info. This is my first lease. I live in GA, zip code is 30022. I thought I wanted a Q50 RWD Premium with Nav, but the local dealers aren't quoting me anywhere near the prices that I've seen here. Is it the taxes In GA? I switched my car preference due to high cost to a Q50 Base RWD with moonroof, 39mos/12k.
My best deal still isn't very good compared to what I've seen others receive. Here are the details (didn't give me the sheet so numbers might be off):
Car: 2015 Q50 Base RWD with moonroof
Lease: 39 mo / 12k
MSRP: 39,600
Selling Price: 34,190
TAVT (taxes): 2,484
Doc Fee: 599.00
Title: 18.00
License: 22.00
ETR: 68.00
Misc: 3.0
Total: 37,384
Residual: 58%, 23,020.69
MF: .00025
Monthly payment: $354 (without tax), $417.34 with tax
Out the door: $532 (includes first month payment)
This just seems high to me, Thoughts? Is it worth it to do a MSD? I am supposedly getting VPP pricing. I thought my payment would be in the low 300s. Please advise.
Thanks!
What hurts the most is you live in GA, and pay sales tax on the full value of the car.. Also, a $599 doc fee is ridiculous, but not unusual for GA/FL..
Since the money factor is already low, you can only do 2 MSDs, but it would be worth it.. It would save $12/mo..
It's not a bad lease.. you can't do anything about the tax. You could try shopping around, and see if a competitor will waive their doc fee on a VPP deal.
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I plan to do 1 MSD tomorrow.