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This is what I was just offered.
2015 328i, 36/12k
MSRP: $49,550
Miles: 3,802
Selling Price: $39,866
Residual: $30,556.10 (61.67%)
Upfront fees & tax: $350.47
Capped Doc Fee $578.40
MF: .00170 (Said this is what they quote, will be lower with good credit, which is fine for calc purposes)
With paying first payment, fees and a cap reduction ($189.43), $1,000 total out of pocket, they are saying $459.99 including tax (7% in FL per month)
I am calculating $416.37 including tax. Where am I missing the difference (My Calcs below)
MSRP $49,550.00
Reduction $9,684.00
Sales Price $39,866.00
Residual % 61.67%
Residual Value $30,556.10
Base Paid $9,309.90
Cap Cost Addition $578.40
Capitalized Amount $9,888
Cap Cost Reduction $189.54
Cap Cost $9,699
Term 36
MF 0.0017
Lease Fee/Month $120
Base Payment $269.41
Payment w/ MF $389.13
Tax % 7%
Final Payment $416.37
2013 Optima SX
Terms: 36 months 10k/year
MSRP: $45900
Residual: 64% ($29376)
Sale price: $38122
Money Factor: .00121
Cap cost reduction: $2000
MSDs: $2800
Monthly payment: $399.53.
Monthly use tax: $24.38
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Don't assume the .00170 MF will go down. Top tier credit is .00130 and maximum markup is .00040, so you can do the math.
Looks like you get 500 free miles, then the rest reduce the residual by $0.20/mile.
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What is the total amount due at signing?
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MSRP $49,550
Discount $9,684
Sale Price $39,866
Cap Cost Addition $1,503 (925 + 578)
Net Cap Cost $41,369
Residual $30,556
Cash Down $189
Base Payment Total $10,624
Term 36
Money Factor 0.0017
Lease Fee $122
Total Payment $417
Pmt w/ 7% Tax $447
EDIT: It looks like they are including the Upfront ($350) in the capped amount in order to get to the 459 w tax payment
2013 Optima SX
This forum is a great resource and really helped me with the process. Thanks for all you're help.
What do you think? Good or bad?
They offered a trade value for 27k. The payoff is 33000. -6000 equity.
They quoted us for a 3 series 328i x-drive Loaner Lease:
MSRP:45100.00
Sales Price: 37000.00
MF at .00130 (after negotiating) and Residual ? (they have it as 27784). 0 down. $640 a month.
36 months and 10k miles
What is the current MF and RV? They said they didn't offer 39 months. Is there a way to get this any lower? I tried with the dealer and they went from .00150 to .00130. But said there was absolutely nothing else they could do.
I am new to negotiating leases. I still kinda don't get how to negotiate. Being my second time, they always say, this is a set rate by the manufacturer and it cannot be changed.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Isn't the Mercedes under warranty? I'd just ride it out.
.00130 MF and 64% residual (reduced by $0.20/mi. for current mileage on vehicle).
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Thanks!
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
Vehicle: 328 I Gran Turismo 2015
Final Sale Price: 45,795
Cash Down: documentation + all other fees + first month payment = $2000
36 Months 12K miles
MSD = $1500
Offered= $459 per month
Can you please validate if the numbers are looking okay. I really want it to be at $450, Is there any scope ?
If the sale price is the cap cost, and we reduce the MF by .00021 to account for the 3 MSDs, I get a payment of $452/mo plus tax.
What state is this and what is the tax rate?
I would see if there is any more room to come down on the price ...
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Find out from the dealer if your $2000 covers the tax obligation.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
MSRP $48,840
SP $39,900
36 Months Lease 12k Miles
MF 0.00130 and Residual is 63%
$419 Sign and Drive Is this good deal? Picking car tomorrow.
State and tax rate?
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MSRP: $51050 (Lighting, premium, cold weather, luxury, park assistance and nav)
Selling Price: Around $44k but can't remember the exact # atm
36 months, 10k miles
MF: .00150
Residual: 65%
Sign and drive $498/month (taxes and fees all rolled in)
How did I do? Also, with top tier credit, should the money factor be any better? Thanks!
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
This site is such a wealth of knowledge. Thank you.
I'm looking at getting my first BMW - Here's what I know regarding the car I'm looking at:
2015 328i MSRP $46245.
I'm looking at doing 36 Month/12K. Invoice price at 40100. Tax is in Texas at 6.25.
I appreciate your help.
Given that people typically aim for invoice + $500 or so on 'current' model years (roughly 8% off MSRP), am I dreaming if I think I can get a 2015 for 15% off MSRP (including the $1,000 credit currently being offered)?
My current 328 is pretty simple (Sport line, Sensa-Tec, no NAV), so I'd either want to get into a 335 or a well-optioned 328. If I can achieve my desired discount, I'd actually be looking at a lower monthly payment than on my current 328.
Thanks!
Not sure what you mean by invoice price. Is that an offered selling price?
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Thx
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Is this correct for Sep? I locked in Sep rates.
2015 320i -
24/10K-69%
36/10K-64% - dealer is telling me it's 63% for 36m.
I have a 2013 328 xi with 10 remaining payments. I'd like to get into a 15 or 16 328 xi ASAP. Do you think I will get the best possible dealer offer with 0 payments left? Or do you think I could get just as good of a dealer offer with say 4 payments to go and dealer covers 4 remaining payments through "pull ahead program?"
Also, would like to hear your thoughts on this deal I was quoted yesterday:
2015 328 xi
MSRP 52,885
selling price 47,950
residual 64%
MF .00130
2000 down covers first payment, lease acquisition fee, doc fee and plates
3 year lease, 10K miles per year
$499 monthly payment + 6.25% Mass state sales tax
What is the invoice on this car, and how do I find it?
What should my monthly payment be in above deal if 12K miles per year instead of 10K miles per year?
Good deal?
Thanks so much for your helpful insight and advice!
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The quoted deal is okay. Doesn't look like any markups, but there is a $1500 incentive on this vehicle, so the true discount is about $3400. You might be able to do better than that.
You can get the invoice price by building the vehicle using the Make/Model/Year tabs at the top of the page.
Going to 12K/yr will add about $12/mo.+tax
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SP: $39,900
Cap Cost: $42,416 (With tax and other fees)
MF: 0.00090
12k Miles. 63% Residual
MSD: $2800
36 Monthly Payment of $389.00.
Do do you think the best dealer offer would be with 0 payments left (waiting until lease maturity next August) Or do you think I could get just as good of a deal if they were to pay say 3 or 4 remaining payments through their "pull ahead program?"
If I just pay 6 of the remaining 10 payments now, and they are able to pick up remaining 4 to get me into a new lease now, that's what I'm thinking.
What do you think?
I always read about folks getting their 3 series for invoice, so that's the number I'll be shooting for.
thanks again!
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Do do you think the best dealer offer would be with 0 payments left (waiting until lease maturity next August) Or do you think I could get just as good of a deal if they were to pay say 3 or 4 remaining payments through their "pull ahead program?"
If I just pay 6 of the remaining 10 payments now, and they are able to pick up remaining 4 to get me into a new lease now, that's what I'm thinking.
What do you think?
I always read about folks getting their 3 series for invoice, so that's the number I'll be shooting for.
thanks again!
Who would eat the rest of the payments?
It's always best to complete your current lease before starting a new one - unless there is a defined 'pull ahead' program that you can take advantage of. And, I'm not aware of one at the moment.
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Do you have lease numbers on a 328i and a 328d in South Florida for a 36/15 lease? Thanks.
36/12
zip 60010
I'm guessing options won't effect resid%?
Is there an easy place to find this vs asking each time?
thank you.
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Individual options do not affect these numbers.
This information is confidential ...
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