Thanks. 1959 is starting to be a very "long" time ago
any car that is older than I am, at this point is Really old.
Imagine being able to remember when they came out!
Hell, I learned to drive in one ('59 Mercury Monterey)
I learned on a '60 Falcon. The challenge was learning to control all of that tire-shredding power.
An old girlfriend of mine has one of those. I usually ended up fixing it. I threatened to turn it into a pedal car in order to get more power out of it.
1969 Volvo. Stick. Not 1 power option, including brakes or steering.
I had one of those. Two door. IIRC it still had a manual choke, but it wasn't my first Volvo so I'm not sure. It didn't have that cute little window shade that you could pull up in front of the radiator to help the warmup process, though. That thing was oddly useful for keeping the engine at your preferred temperature.
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My dad had a '72 with the dealer-installed AC. The air intake was near the passenger kick vent. Want fresh air AC, you open the vent. Want recirculation, close it.
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It does have an AC badge so maker is easy. The only models I know the name of are the ace and Bristol.
You're getting close, in fact very close. It's a 1957 AC Aceca-Bristol, essentially a tin-roof version of the wonderful Ace-Bristol which Carroll Shelby transformed into the Cobra with the addition of the 260CID "Fairlane" V8
We've talked about this before and it seems that there are varying standards for just what is considered a hatchback. Some do not count the E-Type FHC because the hatch opens to the side.
I'm pretty sure that the car shown below was the first to combine a rear hatch with a transverse mounted engine driving the front wheels, ushering in the era of the modern hatchback in 1964>
Some versions of this car did not have a hatch, do you know what it is?
The Autobianchi Primula was supposedly the first hatchback and established the idea of a transverse mounted front wheel drive hatchback, which then became ubiquitous in Europe and Japan.
Available in two- and four-door body styles, hatchbacks have the same footprint as a comparably sized sedan, but instead of a conventional trunk, they offer a spacious cargo bay accessed by an overhead liftgate. (link)
Who knew you could spend weeks debating car doors.
As far as I know the Countryman/wagon version of the Austin A40 had the same footprint as it's trunk back brethren. While some versions had the split tailgate you might associate w a wagon others, like this Italian-built Innocenti had the overhead liftgate typical of hatchbacks.
The R4 may have been the best car ever made by Renault, it was a huge step up in terms of room and serviceability from the 2CVs, 4CVs and Dauphines that French motorists were used to.
If memory serves correctly Pope Francis owned one.
Was it a wagon or a hatchback? I dunno, it was one of those category defying machines that seems to have been both and AFAIK there was no trunkback version.
So now the question is whether you agree with Wiki's categorization of the Squareback.
Hatch, wagon or other?
I suppose (sigh) we could further complicate the argument by stating that if it has a two-piece tailgate then it's a wagon and if it's a single door opening it's a hatch.
However, this only works for passenger cars, not SUVs.
It would be fun to have all of the supposed meanings. My understanding is that by '67 when it had the 400 c.i. engine and an available automatic it was interpreted as 4=400 c.i., 4=4 barrel carb, 2= dual exhaust
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Took my road test in a '74 Sedan DeVille.
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2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
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2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
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I love the knobs to open the vent windows.
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I remember the 66 Galaxie had like a 1:2 scale normal window winder for the vent windows.
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Now who is going to say what my sporty 1957 hatch is?
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Touche you troublemaker ! :@
I'm pretty sure that the car shown below was the first to combine a rear hatch with a transverse mounted engine driving the front wheels, ushering in the era of the modern hatchback in 1964>
Some versions of this car did not have a hatch, do you know what it is?
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
The Autobianchi Primula was supposedly the first hatchback and established the idea of a transverse mounted front wheel drive hatchback, which then became ubiquitous in Europe and Japan.
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It wasn't FWD but this car preceded the Primula by 4 years and it offered several different types of hatch openings. Take your pick>
Que es eso?
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Available in two- and four-door body styles, hatchbacks have the same footprint as a comparably sized sedan, but instead of a conventional trunk, they offer a spacious cargo bay accessed by an overhead liftgate. (link)
Who knew you could spend weeks debating car doors.
Sure looks like a hatchback to
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
So what's this mystery car?
Hatch, wagon or other?
Another one to ponder, Renault 4, starting 1961:
If memory serves correctly Pope Francis owned one.
Was it a wagon or a hatchback? I dunno, it was one of those category defying machines that seems to have been both and AFAIK there was no trunkback version.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
Humm - that back seat doesn't look like it holds very many beef-eating porky Americans, huh?
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2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
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Ok, Pop Quiz..........
Olds 442
4=?
4=?
2=?
However, this only works for passenger cars, not SUVs.
4=Four barrel carburetor
2=Two doors (?)
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