2017 Audi A4 Lease Questions

amosz · June 2017

Hi

Curious what lease numbers are on Season of Audi ultra Premium Sedan

TX. 36 mo / 12k. FWD

Thanks

Michaell · June 2017

amosz said:
Hi

Curious what lease numbers are on Season of Audi ultra Premium Sedan

TX. 36 mo / 12k. FWD

Thanks

.00038 and 54%

nabeelio · June 2017

Hey! Looking to lease at the end of July, so I'm sure numbers will change a bit. I'm in Texas (Austin, if it matters), got numbers for a Prestige at 52.7k? Looking at 36mo, 7500 miles (is it actually cheaper than 10k? I drive around 6k). I'm thinking of 5k down

Michaell · June 2017

nabeelio said:
Hey! Looking to lease at the end of July, so I'm sure numbers will change a bit. I'm in Texas (Austin, if it matters), got numbers for a Prestige at 52.7k? Looking at 36mo, 7500 miles (is it actually cheaper than 10k? I drive around 6k). I'm thinking of 5k down

FWD or Quattro?

Yes, the numbers will likely change next month, but probably not enough to substantially change the payment

7500 mile residual is 1% higher than 10K - so, $520 over 36 months, or $14/mo

We do not recommend a down payment on a lease - that money would be lost if the car is stolen or totaled.

And, you'll pay taxes on the entire selling price in TX, which makes your lease payment higher than other states

nabeelio · June 2017

Michaell said:

nabeelio said:
Hey! Looking to lease at the end of July, so I'm sure numbers will change a bit. I'm in Texas (Austin, if it matters), got numbers for a Prestige at 52.7k? Looking at 36mo, 7500 miles (is it actually cheaper than 10k? I drive around 6k). I'm thinking of 5k down
FWD or Quattro?

Yes, the numbers will likely change next month, but probably not enough to substantially change the payment

7500 mile residual is 1% higher than 10K - so, $520 over 36 months, or $14/mo

We do not recommend a down payment on a lease - that money would be lost if the car is stolen or totaled.

And, you'll pay taxes on the entire selling price in TX, which makes your lease payment higher than other states

Sorry, quattro.

Interesting, so maybe it's just better to take the 10k. Does that 520 include the extra tax? Without any down-payment, it's around 570/580 or so?

Come July, I'll probably ask about the lease numbers specifically. Thanks!

spinny02 · June 2017

Hi,
2017 A4 Premium quattro & FWD 15k & MF Texas.

Thanks,
JS

Michaell · June 2017

spinny02 said:
Hi,
2017 A4 Premium quattro & FWD 15k & MF Texas.

Thanks,
JS

What lease term?

Michaell · June 2017

nabeelio said:

Michaell said:

nabeelio said:
Hey! Looking to lease at the end of July, so I'm sure numbers will change a bit. I'm in Texas (Austin, if it matters), got numbers for a Prestige at 52.7k? Looking at 36mo, 7500 miles (is it actually cheaper than 10k? I drive around 6k). I'm thinking of 5k down
FWD or Quattro?

Yes, the numbers will likely change next month, but probably not enough to substantially change the payment

7500 mile residual is 1% higher than 10K - so, $520 over 36 months, or $14/mo

We do not recommend a down payment on a lease - that money would be lost if the car is stolen or totaled.

And, you'll pay taxes on the entire selling price in TX, which makes your lease payment higher than other states
Sorry, quattro.

Interesting, so maybe it's just better to take the 10k. Does that 520 include the extra tax? Without any down-payment, it's around 570/580 or so?

Come July, I'll probably ask about the lease numbers specifically. Thanks!

It's always better to set up the number of miles you think you'll need. They get more expensive as the lease progresses.

spinny02 · June 2017

Michaell said:

spinny02 said:
Hi,
2017 A4 Premium quattro & FWD 15k & MF Texas.

Thanks,
JS
What lease term?

36m

Michaell · June 2017

spinny02 said:

Michaell said:

spinny02 said:
Hi,
2017 A4 Premium quattro & FWD 15k & MF Texas.

Thanks,
JS
What lease term?
36m

.00045 and 53%

jhay1234 · June 2017

Hi do you have numbers for A4 quattro manual trans. Premium with sports plus pkg and tech pkg. 36/12,36/15, 24/15,24/12. Washington state.

Michaell · June 2017

jhay1234 said:
Hi do you have numbers for A4 quattro manual trans. Premium with sports plus pkg and tech pkg. 36/12,36/15, 24/15,24/12. Washington state.

.00045 and 53% (36/12) or 60% (24/15)

Add 2% for 12K

$1000 marketing cash.

nabeelio · June 2017

Michaell said:

nabeelio said:

Michaell said:

nabeelio said:
Hey! Looking to lease at the end of July, so I'm sure numbers will change a bit. I'm in Texas (Austin, if it matters), got numbers for a Prestige at 52.7k? Looking at 36mo, 7500 miles (is it actually cheaper than 10k? I drive around 6k). I'm thinking of 5k down
FWD or Quattro?

Yes, the numbers will likely change next month, but probably not enough to substantially change the payment

7500 mile residual is 1% higher than 10K - so, $520 over 36 months, or $14/mo

We do not recommend a down payment on a lease - that money would be lost if the car is stolen or totaled.

And, you'll pay taxes on the entire selling price in TX, which makes your lease payment higher than other states
Sorry, quattro.

Interesting, so maybe it's just better to take the 10k. Does that 520 include the extra tax? Without any down-payment, it's around 570/580 or so?

Come July, I'll probably ask about the lease numbers specifically. Thanks!
It's always better to set up the number of miles you think you'll need. They get more expensive as the lease progresses.

What do you mean it gets more expensive? I'll just go with the 7500 miles then, since that's really all I need. So for the quattro @ 7500 is 520?

Thank you very much, this is helpful

Mb1227 · June 2017

Hi, do you have numbers for a 2017 A4 Quattro Premium Plus w/ Technology Package? Lease term 12k/36mo - MSRP reduced to $44,960. Original MSRP was $49,125. Location is Illinois (Chicago-area).

Dealer quoted: 0 cash down, $658/month, with a 56% RV and .00095 MF. Thank you very much!

Michaell · June 2017

nabeelio said:

Michaell said:

nabeelio said:

Michaell said:

nabeelio said:
Hey! Looking to lease at the end of July, so I'm sure numbers will change a bit. I'm in Texas (Austin, if it matters), got numbers for a Prestige at 52.7k? Looking at 36mo, 7500 miles (is it actually cheaper than 10k? I drive around 6k). I'm thinking of 5k down
FWD or Quattro?

Yes, the numbers will likely change next month, but probably not enough to substantially change the payment

7500 mile residual is 1% higher than 10K - so, $520 over 36 months, or $14/mo

We do not recommend a down payment on a lease - that money would be lost if the car is stolen or totaled.

And, you'll pay taxes on the entire selling price in TX, which makes your lease payment higher than other states
Sorry, quattro.

Interesting, so maybe it's just better to take the 10k. Does that 520 include the extra tax? Without any down-payment, it's around 570/580 or so?

Come July, I'll probably ask about the lease numbers specifically. Thanks!
It's always better to set up the number of miles you think you'll need. They get more expensive as the lease progresses.
What do you mean it gets more expensive? I'll just go with the 7500 miles then, since that's really all I need. So for the quattro @ 7500 is 520?

Thank you very much, this is helpful

No, the $520 would be the extra cost over the lease term of going from 7500 to 10000 miles.

We would need to know the adjusted cap cost to figure the payment.

Michaell · June 2017

Mb1227 said:
Hi, do you have numbers for a 2017 A4 Quattro Premium Plus w/ Technology Package? Lease term 12k/36mo - MSRP reduced to $44,960. Original MSRP was $49,125. Location is Illinois (Chicago-area).

Dealer quoted: 0 cash down, $658/month, with a 56% RV and .00095 MF. Thank you very much!

55% and .00045; MF is marked up.

What is the adjusted cap cost, and can the dealer adequately bridge the difference to that number from the selling price?

Is this the Chicago area, or Chicago itself? It matters as the lease taxes are considerably higher in the city.

Mb1227 · June 2017

Michaell said:

Mb1227 said:
Hi, do you have numbers for a 2017 A4 Quattro Premium Plus w/ Technology Package? Lease term 12k/36mo - MSRP reduced to $44,960. Original MSRP was $49,125. Location is Illinois (Chicago-area).

Dealer quoted: 0 cash down, $658/month, with a 56% RV and .00095 MF. Thank you very much!
55% and .00045; MF is marked up.

What is the adjusted cap cost, and can the dealer adequately bridge the difference to that number from the selling price?

Is this the Chicago area, or Chicago itself? It matters as the lease taxes are considerably higher in the city.

It was a dealership in the suburbs. I think the adjusted cap cost is just $44,960 (after an additional $1750 rebate). I haven't yet tried to negotiate that number farther down because the lease numbers looked too high for me to continue discussing it with them at the time.

It would be helpful to come back to them better informed. Thanks a lot for your help!

nabeelio · June 2017

Seems like '17s are slim pickings.

Dealer is floating a custom order - 52k MSRP, for a quattro Prestige. 10k/36mo, any possibilities of numbers of that? In Texas.

He's giving me a 54k MSRP with a 3% discount for a custom order. I'm not sure how much to push on those prices, and I'm not sure how much more of a discount I can get on that seeing that it's a new model.

Michaell · June 2017

nabeelio said:
Seems like '17s are slim pickings.

Dealer is floating a custom order - 52k MSRP, for a quattro Prestige. 10k/36mo, any possibilities of numbers of that? In Texas.

He's giving me a 54k MSRP with a 3% discount for a custom order. I'm not sure how much to push on those prices, and I'm not sure how much more of a discount I can get on that seeing that it's a new model.

Is this a 2018?

There is a 2018 thread:

https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/45440/audi/a4/2018-audi-a4-lease-questions#latest

nabeelio · June 2017

Michaell said:

nabeelio said:
Seems like '17s are slim pickings.

Dealer is floating a custom order - 52k MSRP, for a quattro Prestige. 10k/36mo, any possibilities of numbers of that? In Texas.

He's giving me a 54k MSRP with a 3% discount for a custom order. I'm not sure how much to push on those prices, and I'm not sure how much more of a discount I can get on that seeing that it's a new model.
Is this a 2018?

There is a 2018 thread:

https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/45440/audi/a4/2018-audi-a4-lease-questions#latest

Sorry! Didn't see that. I'll post in the '18 forum. Just a general question, are the '17s generally discounted right now?

Michaell · June 2017

nabeelio said:

Michaell said:

nabeelio said:
Seems like '17s are slim pickings.

Dealer is floating a custom order - 52k MSRP, for a quattro Prestige. 10k/36mo, any possibilities of numbers of that? In Texas.

He's giving me a 54k MSRP with a 3% discount for a custom order. I'm not sure how much to push on those prices, and I'm not sure how much more of a discount I can get on that seeing that it's a new model.
Is this a 2018?

There is a 2018 thread:

https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/45440/audi/a4/2018-audi-a4-lease-questions#latest
Sorry! Didn't see that. I'll post in the '18 forum. Just a general question, are the '17s generally discounted right now?

You're likely to get a better deal on the old model, yes.

For Audi, we suggest a target price of 6% off sticker, before incentives.

nabeelio · June 2017

Michaell said:

You're likely to get a better deal on the old model, yes.

For Audi, we suggest a target price of 6% off sticker, before incentives.

6% for both incoming and outgoing models?

Michaell · June 2017

nabeelio said:

Michaell said:

You're likely to get a better deal on the old model, yes.

For Audi, we suggest a target price of 6% off sticker, before incentives.
6% for both incoming and outgoing models?

Sure, why not?

Not sure you can get it, but if you don't ask, you don't get.

speedracer422 · June 2017

Any idea what kind of incentives and selling price I should be able to get in NY. Also MF and Residual would be very helpful for 36/15K

2017 Audi A4 2.0T Quattro
MSRP $42730

Michaell · June 2017

speedracer422 said:
Any idea what kind of incentives and selling price I should be able to get in NY. Also MF and Residual would be very helpful for 36/15K

2017 Audi A4 2.0T Quattro
MSRP $42730

What trim level?

We suggest a target of 6% off sticker price, before incentives ($750 bonus cash in NY).

rkb_htown · June 2017

Looking for TX MF/Res for 36/10 for traditional and single pay options for A4 Quattro Premium Plus.

Also,
1. Could you please explain the implications of a single pay option on sales tax in TX? My understanding was that there was some kind of savings there. (TX charges sales tax on entire purchase price for lease). In this case, does Net Cap Cost = Residual?
2. Could you please comment on the value of the Audi Care option? I heard that it raises the Res by 1%, and may help with some wear and tear items on lease turn-in.

Thx.

Michaell · June 2017

rkb_htown said:
Looking for TX MF/Res for 36/10 for traditional and single pay options for A4 Quattro Premium Plus.

Also,
1. Could you please explain the implications of a single pay option on sales tax in TX? My understanding was that there was some kind of savings there. (TX charges sales tax on entire purchase price for lease). In this case, does Net Cap Cost = Residual?
2. Could you please comment on the value of the Audi Care option? I heard that it raises the Res by 1%, and may help with some wear and tear items on lease turn-in.

Thx.

.00045 and 56% for 36/10

$750 bonus cash

One pay reduces the MF to .00005

AudiCare does increase the residual by 1% - it is a pretty good deal because of that.

Texas dealers often run sales tax credit specials, but I'm not aware of any connection between the one-pay approach and taxes.

rkb_htown · June 2017

Michaell said:

rkb_htown said:
Looking for TX MF/Res for 36/10 for traditional and single pay options for A4 Quattro Premium Plus.

Also,
1. Could you please explain the implications of a single pay option on sales tax in TX? My understanding was that there was some kind of savings there. (TX charges sales tax on entire purchase price for lease). In this case, does Net Cap Cost = Residual?
2. Could you please comment on the value of the Audi Care option? I heard that it raises the Res by 1%, and may help with some wear and tear items on lease turn-in.

Thx.
.00045 and 56% for 36/10

$750 bonus cash

One pay reduces the MF to .00005

AudiCare does increase the residual by 1% - it is a pretty good deal because of that.

Texas dealers often run sales tax credit specials, but I'm not aware of any connection between the one-pay approach and taxes.

Just a quick follow-up from above on the mechanics of 1-pays - is Net Cap Cost supposed to equal Residual?

Also, I forgot to ask if Audi offers Conquest (conversion from competitor lease) bonus cash.

Thx.

kyfdx · June 2017

rkb_htown said:

Michaell said:

rkb_htown said:
Looking for TX MF/Res for 36/10 for traditional and single pay options for A4 Quattro Premium Plus.

Also,
1. Could you please explain the implications of a single pay option on sales tax in TX? My understanding was that there was some kind of savings there. (TX charges sales tax on entire purchase price for lease). In this case, does Net Cap Cost = Residual?
2. Could you please comment on the value of the Audi Care option? I heard that it raises the Res by 1%, and may help with some wear and tear items on lease turn-in.

Thx.
.00045 and 56% for 36/10

$750 bonus cash

One pay reduces the MF to .00005

AudiCare does increase the residual by 1% - it is a pretty good deal because of that.

Texas dealers often run sales tax credit specials, but I'm not aware of any connection between the one-pay approach and taxes.
Just a quick follow-up from above on the mechanics of 1-pays - is Net Cap Cost supposed to equal Residual?

Also, I forgot to ask if Audi offers Conquest (conversion from competitor lease) bonus cash.

Thx.

No... On a single pay lease, you aren't making a large CAP cost reduction.. you are basically putting all of the payments in escrow, to be deducted as scheduled. In exchange for providing the money upfront, the money factor is reduced, but otherwise, it works just like a normal lease.

No conquest money on this model.

jtychy12 · June 2017

Could you please get me the updated June numbers for 42/12k, 2017 Audi A4 2.0 TFSI Auto Premium quattro AWD, with Maryland sales tax of 6%. MSRP is $43,775, negotiated sales price down to $39,660.

Gap is $42,690.00, includes tax, tag/registration, documentation, electronic filing, and title.

MF, Residual, incentives, and monthly payment?

You guys ran those numbers at 36/12 for me, but I wasn't sure if the change in months effected the Residual.

Thank you.

kyfdx · June 2017

jtychy12 said:
Could you please get me the updated June numbers for 42/12k, 2017 Audi A4 2.0 TFSI Auto Premium quattro AWD, with Maryland sales tax of 6%. MSRP is $43,775, negotiated sales price down to $39,660.

Gap is $42,690.00, includes tax, tag/registration, documentation, electronic filing, and title.

MF, Residual, incentives, and monthly payment?

You guys ran those numbers at 36/12 for me, but I wasn't sure if the change in months effected the Residual.

Thank you.

.00065 MF and 51% residual for 42/12.
No incentives

I get $527/mo. with that MSRP and CAP.

jaycha2 · June 2017

Hello, What is the MF and Res for a 2017 A4 Quottro in FL for 36/12 Premium plus? The dealer is asking for 0.00085 ND RESI OF 55.
MSRP: 48625
NET CAP - 44,406
SALES TAC - 1724
DEALER AND STATE FEE - 1250
TOTAL PRICE - 47830.66
NET TRADE - -(3020) -OWE Money
CURRENT DOWN IS 2700.
What should be the payment?

Thank you

Jay

jaycha2 · June 2017

JJ

kyfdx · June 2017

jaycha2 said:
Hello, What is the MF and Res for a 2017 A4 Quottro in FL for 36/12 Premium plus? The dealer is asking for 0.00085 ND RESI OF 55.
MSRP: 48625
NET CAP - 44,406
SALES TAC - 1724
DEALER AND STATE FEE - 1250
TOTAL PRICE - 47830.66
NET TRADE - -(3020) -OWE Money
CURRENT DOWN IS 2700.
What should be the payment?

Thank you

Jay

.00045 MF and 55% residual

There is no upfront sales tax in Florida, except on amounts paid upfront. Florida taxes the payment, monthly. That's a really big dealer fee, as state fees are likely less than $300.
Also, no mention of the $895 acquisition fee.

They've really just given you a purchase quote, not a lease quote. Some of those numbers aren't applicable to a lease, and other numbers are missing.

jaycha2 · June 2017

Thanks kyfdx. They have quoted me a lease payme t of 689.50 with 2700 down

jhay1234 · June 2017

Hi can you please share numbers for A4 P quattro manual trans. Premium plus pkg, sports plus pkg and tech pkg. 36/12,36/15, 24/15,24/12 for California?

larsonch · June 2017

Would you share numbers on a 2017 A4 Premium Plus Quattro with Tech Package for 36/12 in TX? Thanks!

kyfdx · June 2017

jaycha2 said:
Thanks kyfdx. They have quoted me a lease payme t of 689.50 with 2700 down

$3000 of negative equity adds $90/mo.+ to the payment.
Nothing is going to look cheap, while rolling that amount in.

kyfdx · June 2017

jhay1234 said:
Hi can you please share numbers for A4 P quattro manual trans. Premium plus pkg, sports plus pkg and tech pkg. 36/12,36/15, 24/15,24/12 for California?

.00045 MF and 60%/53% residual for 24/36 months, 15K/yr
Add 2% for 12K/yr
$1000 bonus cash

kyfdx · June 2017

larsonch said:
Would you share numbers on a 2017 A4 Premium Plus Quattro with Tech Package for 36/12 in TX? Thanks!

.00045 MF and 55% residual

jaycha2 · June 2017

Trying to make sense out of the number provided. Please can somebody look at the quote for 36/12 A4 awd premium plus in fl. Any scope of improvement? Thank you

kyfdx · June 2017

jaycha2 said:
Trying to make sense out of the number provided. Please can somebody look at the quote for 36/12 A4 awd premium plus in fl. Any scope of improvement? Thank you

That's a big doc fee.
No accounting for the $895 acquisition fee in that number.

If I add $895 to the "Balance", and use that as the adjusted CAP cost, I get $586/mo.+tax.
Adding 7% tax gets me to the $627/mo number.

Other than the giant doc fee, it looks pretty decent.

jaycha2 · June 2017

kyfdx said:

Trying to make sense out of the number provided. Please can somebody look at the quote for 36/12 A4 awd premium plus in fl. Any scope of improvement? Thank you

That's a big doc fee.

No accounting for the $895 acquisition fee in that number.

If I add $895 to the "Balance", and use that as the adjusted CAP cost, I get $586/mo.+tax.

Adding 7% tax gets me to the $627/mo number.

Other than the giant doc fee, it looks pretty decent.

Thank you so much!!!

rkb_htown · June 2017

kyfdx said:

rkb_htown said:

Michaell said:

rkb_htown said:

No... On a single pay lease, you aren't making a large CAP cost reduction.. you are basically putting all of the payments in escrow, to be deducted as scheduled. In exchange for providing the money upfront, the money factor is reduced, but otherwise, it works just like a normal lease.

No conquest money on this model.
Sorry for all the questions, but was noticing that
Michaell said:

rkb_htown said:
Looking for TX MF/Res for 36/10 for traditional and single pay options for A4 Quattro Premium Plus.

Also,
1. Could you please explain the implications of a single pay option on sales tax in TX? My understanding was that there was some kind of savings there. (TX charges sales tax on entire purchase price for lease). In this case, does Net Cap Cost = Residual?
2. Could you please comment on the value of the Audi Care option? I heard that it raises the Res by 1%, and may help with some wear and tear items on lease turn-in.

Thx.
.00045 and 56% for 36/10

$750 bonus cash

One pay reduces the MF to .00005

AudiCare does increase the residual by 1% - it is a pretty good deal because of that.

Texas dealers often run sales tax credit specials, but I'm not aware of any connection between the one-pay approach and taxes.
Could you also please provide 48/10 traditional and single pay MF / Res? Thx.

btw - It appears that single pay in Texas caps sales tax at 1.25% (much better than the 6.25%).

Michaell · June 2017

rkb_htown said:

kyfdx said:

rkb_htown said:

Michaell said:

rkb_htown said:

No... On a single pay lease, you aren't making a large CAP cost reduction.. you are basically putting all of the payments in escrow, to be deducted as scheduled. In exchange for providing the money upfront, the money factor is reduced, but otherwise, it works just like a normal lease.

No conquest money on this model.
Sorry for all the questions, but was noticing that
Michaell said:

rkb_htown said:
Looking for TX MF/Res for 36/10 for traditional and single pay options for A4 Quattro Premium Plus.

Also,
1. Could you please explain the implications of a single pay option on sales tax in TX? My understanding was that there was some kind of savings there. (TX charges sales tax on entire purchase price for lease). In this case, does Net Cap Cost = Residual?
2. Could you please comment on the value of the Audi Care option? I heard that it raises the Res by 1%, and may help with some wear and tear items on lease turn-in.

Thx.
.00045 and 56% for 36/10

$750 bonus cash

One pay reduces the MF to .00005

AudiCare does increase the residual by 1% - it is a pretty good deal because of that.

Texas dealers often run sales tax credit specials, but I'm not aware of any connection between the one-pay approach and taxes.
Could you also please provide 48/10 traditional and single pay MF / Res? Thx.

btw - It appears that single pay in Texas caps sales tax at 1.25% (much better than the 6.25%).
48 month terms from Audi are not competitive.

42/10 numbers are .00065 and 52%; one pay still brings the MF down to .00005

kevfromal · June 2017

Hi, can you provide the numbers for a 2017 Audi A4 2.0T ultra Premium for both 10k and 12k miles at 36 months? Thanks in advance.

kevfromal · June 2017

Forgot to add the region is North Alabama.

Michaell · June 2017

kevfromal said:
Hi, can you provide the numbers for a 2017 Audi A4 2.0T ultra Premium for both 10k and 12k miles at 36 months? Thanks in advance.

kevfromal said:
Forgot to add the region is North Alabama.

.00038 and 54% / 53%

alexrc99 · June 2017

Could I please have MF & residual for Premium + & Prestige 12/36 in MA?

Are there any incentives? If I am eligible for $750 loyalty cash can I also get other incentives or is it either/or?

Thank you!

Michaell · June 2017

alexrc99 said:
Could I please have MF & residual for Premium + & Prestige 12/36 in MA?

Are there any incentives? If I am eligible for $750 loyalty cash can I also get other incentives or is it either/or?

Thank you!

Assuming Quattro, .00045 and 55% (P+) or 50% (Prestige)

$750 bonus cash and $750 loyalty; these should stack.

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