Mystery car pix

Michaell · September 2017

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kyfdx · September 2017

Michaell said:
brtgbtbabbbzbBBvv.

Are you okay?

0patience · September 2017

How many will get this one wrong?

stickguy · September 2017

Based on that I assume it is an AC Ace

0patience · September 2017

stickguy said:
Based on that I assume it is an AC Ace

Good eye and quick!
Didn't think many would catch that one.

And I really want one.

Michaell · September 2017

kyfdx said:

Michaell said:
brtgbtbabbbzbBBvv.
Are you okay?

Whoops, I think something leaned against my iPad.

All good, here.

magnette · September 2017

That Wolseley Hornet is a convertible and those were done by Crayford Conversions back in the 60's. It looks old enough to be one of the Heinz Hornets, which were a group of identical Hornets converted and given away by Heinz foods as part of a competition.

I think there were 57 of them (57 varieties like the Heinz slogan) and there are a fair few that still exist. They did a similar competition to give away 57 Austin Metros in the 80s and some of those are about too.

I think the wheels are probably not original but may be part of the Crayford Heinz package...

andys120 · September 2017

That Woolsley looks suspiciously like a Mini

stickguy · September 2017

Always reminded me of those beetle kits where you made it resemble a 41 ford or a RR.

qbrozen · September 2017

0patience said:
How many will get this one wrong?

Were you thinking folks would say Cobra? I was in the Ace camp all the way.

I could be wrong, but my gut tells me the Cobra mods did not involve keeping the wire knockoff wheels. Also not sure the grilles were ever kept in tact.

magnette · September 2017

yes - the Wolseley Hornet and the related Riley Imp were both posh Minis with a boot.

In both cases they revived names used by their respective marques in the thirties on sporty little cars.

andys120 · September 2017

qbrozen said:

0patience said:
How many will get this one wrong?

Were you thinking folks would say Cobra? I was in the Ace camp all the way.

I could be wrong, but my gut tells me the Cobra mods did not involve keeping the wire knockoff wheels. Also not sure the grilles were ever kept in tact.

Small block Shelby Cobras all came with similar but wider (Dunlop?) wires with the same knock-off hubs you see on the Ace.

If you really wanna fool someone in to thinking an Ace is a Cobra, show them this one:

The red car is nearly identical to a Shelby, same windshield, same grille same wheels, it's even got a Ford motor (not aV8) just one small difference (can you spot it?) :

qbrozen · September 2017

Red one doesnt have the sideview mirror the blue one has.

there is also the badge on the fender.

Kirstie_H · September 2017

Anyone have a clue what make/model this could possibly be? This is a local case - the guy is vandalizing funeral homes. It's not a great video, so it might be hard to even take a guess, but figured it wouldn't hurt to check.
https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.may.549/videos/10213981759800137/

andys120 · September 2017

qbrozen said:
Red one doesnt have the sideview mirror the blue one has.

there is also the badge on the fender.

The badge reads Powered by Ford and indicates a small block Cobra but the red car is also powered by Ford...know what it is?

1962 small-blocks with the 260CID motor lacked the fender side vents that the later 289CID
cars had:

This is a late 289 Cobra ('63/64) with the improved rack and pinion steering and Halibrand racing wheels (the original "mags" since they really used a magnesium/steel alloy). I'm not sure if they're factory options or aftermarket. I suspect the latter.

fintail · September 2017

I get a strong early 2000s Lancer vibe from the C-pillar, rear lights, and wheels:

Kirstie_H said:
Anyone have a clue what make/model this could possibly be? This is a local case - the guy is vandalizing funeral homes. It's not a great video, so it might be hard to even take a guess, but figured it wouldn't hurt to check.
https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.may.549/videos/10213981759800137/

Michaell · September 2017

fintail said:
I get a strong early 2000s Lancer vibe from the C-pillar, rear lights, and wheels:

Kirstie_H said:
Anyone have a clue what make/model this could possibly be? This is a local case - the guy is vandalizing funeral homes. It's not a great video, so it might be hard to even take a guess, but figured it wouldn't hurt to check.
https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.may.549/videos/10213981759800137/

I agree with @fintail on this....

texases · September 2017

Yep, early 2000s Mitsubishi Lancer.

qbrozen · September 2017

Seems to fit. I thought could be same vintage Sentra, but that c pillar window doesn't match up as well as it does to Lancer.

stickguy · September 2017

the wheels on the lancer looked like a perfect match too, compared to the sample picture posted.

berri · September 2017

I guessed something from Suzuki

andys120 · September 2017

I can't tell these apart when I see 'em on the street, can you?

Michaell · September 2017

andys120 said:
I can't tell these apart when I see 'em on the street, can you?

Are you color blind? One is blue and the other is white.

(sorry, couldn't resist on a Friday)

andys120 · September 2017

Thanks, Michaell. :@
Does anyone want to ID the two look alikes(you see them every day, you might even own one.)?

berri · September 2017

Sonata and Fusion?

fintail · September 2017

The window in the C-pillar is enough for an 8 year old to differentiate them from 50 feet, IMO

Mr_Shiftright · September 2017

Seems to me they got a pretty good ID on the perp himself as he stepped out of the car.

andys120 · September 2017

berri said:
Sonata and Fusion?

Yup, that's a blue Hyundai Sonata over a white Ford Fusion.

fintail said:
The window in the C-pillar is enough for an 8 year old to differentiate them from 50 feet, IMO

Since I'm a lot older than 8 my memory isn't as good as a kid's but you're correct smartass,

the Ford has the much copied "Hofmeister Kink", which a long with the crease on the upper side is a lift from BMW styling which brings up another comparison>

fintail · September 2017

I never noticed the crease before, now I can't unsee it, although it probably isn't alone in the line going through door handles. I know the new E has a crease going through the handles too, but it is more subtle.

The Sonata and Fusion have very similar A-pillars too, with the same DLO fail/black plastic triangle.

Speaking of Sonata, the prior oversyled model is looking kind of dated already. I think we might be hitting the zenith of styling applied with a dump truck and trowel.

andys120 · September 2017

Well, now that you've mentioned it, the crease on the Sonata doesn't go thru the door handles.

The crease thru the handles on the Fusion may be another lift from BMW styling. The Five Series introduced it in 1988 with the E34.>

imidazol97 · September 2017

A lot of cars are visible from this overhead picture. Supposedly about 1950 but many of the cars have headlight on separate pods instead of built-in mounts. From Winchester, Indiana via a facebook hometown type link of county-wide pictures.

fintail · September 2017

I miss when cars were that uncluttered.

Meanwhile at MB in 1988, this was a new model:

I can only hope this movement returns.

andys120 said:

The crease thru the handles on the Fusion may be another lift from BMW styling. The Five Series introduced it in 1988 with the E34.>

fintail · September 2017

Neat pic. I think it might predate 1950, unless that was an especially car-starved area. I see nothing of the "new" 48-50 designs on the road. I suspect that pic is from just after the war.

I'll pick off some For cars park on the street, to the left of the parade, I see a 41 Ford at the 3rd car from the corner, and what looks like a 42 Olds in front of it. In front of the Olds might be a 46 Plymouth, and a 40 Chevy in front of that, and maybe a 46-47 Olds in front of it. Car parked on the street at far left is a 37 Chevy coupe, with a 40 Chevy behind it. The cars parked at right would require more study. Car at right nearest the camera looks like a 37-38-ish Mopar coupe, with a 39-40 Ford Tudor 3 cars up from it.

imidazol97 said:
A lot of cars are visible from this overhead picture. Supposedly about 1950 but many of the cars have headlight on separate pods instead of built-in mounts. From Winchester, Indiana via a facebook hometown type link of county-wide pictures.

berri · September 2017

Yup, that's a blue Hyundai Sonata over a white Ford Fusion.
I know my rental cars

Mr_Shiftright · September 2017

imidazol97 said:
A lot of cars are visible from this overhead picture. Supposedly about 1950 but many of the cars have headlight on separate pods instead of built-in mounts. From Winchester, Indiana via a facebook hometown type link of county-wide pictures.

Headlights went into fenders circa 1936--1938. So, if the photo was taken right after WW II, it could be late 40s for sure, because new cars were hard to come by until about 1948. So I'd guess it's earlier than 1950, maybe just pre-war or just post-war.

andys120 · September 2017

berri · September 2017

I think that is a latter Hudson coupe, maybe 54 or so. I think they may have called them Wasp?

andys120 · September 2017

berri said:
I think that is a latter Hudson coupe, maybe 54 or so. I think they may have called them Wasp?

Yes, that is a 1954 Hudson Super Wasp. IIRC '54 was the last year for real Hudsons. After that they were rebadged Nashes.

andys120 · September 2017

fintail · September 2017

It's a Ferrari 400 Superamerica or 500 Superfast - I don't recall how to tell them apart. I think the 400 is more common, I will say it is that. Very rare and valuable model, this was top of the line. Very understated and elegant in an early 60s way.

Mr_Shiftright · September 2017

I got this--took me a minute to study it. Very rare Ferrari--only 36 made, and if you saw 3 of them together they'd all be a little different. You're looking at maybe $4 million bucks there.

and it is......? A 400 Superamerica coupe. No idea of the year but let's throw out 1964.

andys120 · September 2017

Yup, Ferrari 400 Superamerica Aerodynamico ca. 1962-'64. Some versions had faired in headlights.

andys120 · September 2017

qbrozen · September 2017

andys120 · September 2017

LOL!

magnette · September 2017

Mr_Shiftright said:

imidazol97 said:
A lot of cars are visible from this overhead picture. Supposedly about 1950 but many of the cars have headlight on separate pods instead of built-in mounts. From Winchester, Indiana via a facebook hometown type link of county-wide pictures.
Headlights went into fenders circa 1936--1938. So, if the photo was taken right after WW II, it could be late 40s for sure, because new cars were hard to come by until about 1948. So I'd guess it's earlier than 1950, maybe just pre-war or just post-war.

I thought I would give it a go with these more ancient cars and have found one which looks post war - third car back on the left hand side next to the lamp post is an Oldsmobile and I would say 1946-8 judging by the grille.

However the two in front of it are older - I'm guessing a Ford from 1941 and a Chevrolet from 1937. And behind it a 41 Chevrolet a while coupe which looks too new to be pre-war and then I thought another Oldsmobile (next to the second lamp post) but a wartime one - that heavy double deck grille..
Behind that just a guess but that car looks like an upright Hudson ?

jpp75 · September 2017

andys120 said:

I first thought an Eldorado until I saw the suicide doors. I didn't know Cadillac made a sedan with those. I'm stumped as to the exact model.

tmart · September 2017

58 Eldorado Brougham

andys120 · September 2017

tmart said:
58 Eldorado Brougham

Yup, like most '58s the Caddys were a bit overwrought but oddly less so than most. I think the Eldo's designers did a great job of making it look like a two-door although I suspect access to the rear wasn't great.

All the restraint that went into this design went out the window in 1959 as Caddy came out with the most outrageous design of that (or any) year.

fintail · September 2017

There was also an Eldo Brougham in 59, very understated for the time, showing where Caddy would be in a few years:

I think the Eldo Broughams might have been the first cars with narrow band whitewalls.

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